Good there is more traction here. If we could sell him, even better.
Rasmus Hojlund - Linked to Inter on loan
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
Unfortunately they won’t pay his current book value upfront. A loan could be the better option for us until his purchase gets amortised further… And maybe surely the curent market value goes up if he has a successful loan spell.
Italian clubs are piss takers.
Bite their hand off for £40m. If Inter are a little short perhaps their fans can do a Galatasary and pool their money together to get it over the line. Hell, I’ll chuck a tenner in for the cause too.
Would PSG still want him? PSG tried to sign him before he joined us.
Inter need a backup to thuram. Hojlund at Atlanta did a lot of work in the channels, chasing down lost causes and alot of self sacrifice for the team. Thuram does the same for inter. So you could see why they are interested.
It’s also depends on the formation Chivu plays? If it’s the same then you need another striker but if he switches to 4-2-3-1 then I’m not sure.
All of these italian clubs are wasting our time. None of them will offer more than 20 and more likely they'll mess us about all summer than seek a loan deal in the last week of the window.
Our best hope would be finding one of them who has someone we might want to part-ex with
Our best hope would be finding one of them who has someone we might want to part-ex with
That's a very good point I forgot inzaghi left
He is a nobody in senior management. Only 13 games this season with Parma, he took over in emergency mode and he helped keep them in Serie A with this system (2 CFs). Before that he was at Inter for the last 20 years... Player until 2014 and Youth coach after that...
By the way Parma´s forward Bonny is the other alternative considered by Inter.
If they are replacing both Taremi and Arnautovic they could go for both Bonny and Højlund, but if it is only one of the 2 that is leaving, they will chose between Bonny and Højlund.
So, his experience at Parma could suggest a 352, but a quick look at Transfermarkt says he has used various systems with Inter U19, mostly a 433 over his last seasons there.
Inter U19 :
https://www.transfermarkt.com/crist.../5380/datum_zu/2021-07-01/datum_ab/2024-06-30
Parma 24/25 :
Gasperini is now officially installed as Roma Head Coach. I don't know how much they will be willing to back him but considering he effectively chose Roma over Juve by all accounts he must have been given some assurances. He was very much against selling Hojlund to us 2 years ago so maybe he will favor a reunion, Roma definitely need to do something in the forward positions, Dovbyk did not replicate his Girona form and Abraham and Shomuroduv are expected to leave.
Imagine Roma and Inter going into a bidding war for Hojlund
One can dream"You take him"Imagine Roma and Inter going into a bidding war for Hojlund
"No, you take him"
Childhood all over again
Feel like a lower fee and a sell on could work here?
They paid 32 million for Tammy Abraham when he would have been 2 years older than Hojlund would be if he were to move so what you mention is really promising. If we could get 30 plus 5 to 10 in add ons that would be amazing.
EDIT: they actually paid 35 million, 32 was his market value figure.
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That's that cleared up then.
Very possible if we can shift at least four of the front five
Would rather he stayed.
This might be a really dumb question, so honestly feel free to explain if you understand better how all this silliness works.
Why don't we just sell him for less?
He's not going to gain value, I don't think a single player ever has by going on a random loan, he'll still be worth less than we paid and a year closer to expiring. Why not just cut losses and get rid while we can? Otherwise we just end up in the same situation as Sancho and Rashford, where they're probably gonna be sat on the bench until their contracts expire.
Surely making a loss is better than making nothing at all.
Why? It doesnt help either party. He needs to improve and we need someone who is good at holdup and can score a few goals.
Inter are looking for a back up striker, unless they offer a transfer fee its better to stay away from a loan deal, he wount get minutes and then theyll look for a reduced buy fee.
What's your reasoning?
I mean literally just watched Antony regain quite a bit of value ha
In a nutshell.
After watching highlights from him and Gyokeres, Hojlund is more dynamic with his feet in all situations.
Hojland was too young to be thrust into the role as the main striker on a team like Manchester United
I am not sure how you concluded Holjund was "dynamic" with his feet. Just cause he does his signature move for chopping to get away from the defender? Also your 2nd point is exactly the reason he needs to step away from the spotlight. Improve his game and play elsewhere without the pressure so we can see if he can improve. If he does, great he has a place here after doing well and gaining confidence in Italy. If not we sell him and move on.
We need striker depth. Out and out strikers I mean. If we're cutting losses it should be Onana , Sancho and Antony first. If we signed Gyokeres, id look at him plus Zirkzee Hoijlund and Obi and feel it is just about right, maybe a bit light still.
That and I just think this last season was the very worst environment for him to do anything useful with the potential he was signed for.
With Cunha and Mbuemo coming in, and potentially Gyokeres , that could be a much more suitable scenario and weight lifted for him. I mean, he's not going to be a lone striker starting most games for Inter and in all likelihood there's very few clubs where he should be that.
There's a solid player in there to develop. Key word being 'develop'
We should thank McT for anyone wanting to buy our players. He is showing everyone they might just be buying a world class player who simply failed at united.
I would keep him but we need a first choice striker to one take the pressure off of him and for him to learn from.
To me he has something to work with and I do feel with Cunha and possibly Mbeuno either side he will find life a lot easier. He is and should be a development player so someone needs to come in. Don’t think it should be Gyokores, but someone better suited to the league that can and will challenge defenders.
To me he has something to work with and I do feel with Cunha and possibly Mbeuno either side he will find life a lot easier. He is and should be a development player so someone needs to come in. Don’t think it should be Gyokores, but someone better suited to the league that can and will challenge defenders.
Giving Dovbyk another season and bringing in a backup option sounds smarter…
His value on the books is what matters to PRS. When we buy a player for 60M on a 6 years contract he is booked as a 60M asset that get amortised at 10M/year; after using him for 2 seasons it is considered we’ve amortised 20 M of his value, and got a 40M asset left. This means selling at any figure lower than 40 is bad business and the difference needs to be registered as a loss. That is what we gotta avoid, it conditions how much we can spend. If we were to wait 3 more seasons the book value of said player would have been amortised to 10 M and at that point selling for any amount above 10M is considered a profit.
Højlund isn’t on a huge salary, so that is not a big issue here. We can afford to keep him or loam him out for normal fees. What we can’t afford is sell him when his market value is at its lowest while his book value is still relatively high.
When you say it's bad business. It's bad for PSR bookkeeping. That doesn't necessarily mean it's bad business.
Selling him for saying £35m today is markedly better business than keeping him for 3 seasons, him performing poorly on the pitch, paying 3 full years of wages then selling him for £15m.
I wouldn't shed a tear if he left, but I feel if someone like Gyokores came in, Hojlund would be a good understudy.
I dont see a world where Zikrzee can lead the line in an Amorim system. Hojlund could if he was able to improve, albeit in just about every area.
Would much rather see Zikrzee sold than Hojlund providing we bring in Gyokores.
I dont see a world where Zikrzee can lead the line in an Amorim system. Hojlund could if he was able to improve, albeit in just about every area.
Would much rather see Zikrzee sold than Hojlund providing we bring in Gyokores.
I actually think that Zirkzee will do well as a false 9 when he has Cunha and Mbeumo/Amad next to him.
What's the difference between a formal and informal enquiry for a player? Is a formal professionally written and an informal one more like "ey mate wanna sell us Hojlund lol"?
Would have agreed with you until about half way through last season, when Zirkzee seemed to come on a lot, whereas Hojlund seemed to fall away even further.
Either one could be a decent back up, but Zirkzee doesn't feel like he could really be a regular furthest forward player.
I'm not sure how hell do but I agree that he's our best bet now we're signing goalscoring 10s
Possible. But I’m not aware of Amorim ever using a false 9 at Sporting. He wants someone to lead the line and be able to hold the ball up. Admittedly, they ask skills that Hojlund needs work on, but he does have the physical attributes to be able to learn. Zirkzee never will.
Hojlunds confidence looked shot last year. It got worse and worse for him as the season went on. I do think he has the attributes to be able to do well as a back up forward over the next few years.
Zirkzee, I don’t think will ever have ability to lead a line like PL number 9s do.