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Rasmus Hojlund - Linked to Inter on loan
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
He was very highly rated during that season at Atalanta as evidenced by the fact that PSG were competing with us for him and yes he was thought of as a future star. I don't think the opinion will have changed massively in the last two years as he will mostly have been seen in European games where his form has been quite good, basically a goal every other game and generally far more involved in build up play against European opposition. I have not seen a lot of comments on this but the little I have seen does lean towards the usual mindset of the problem being United and not the player which is why so many Italian clubs are genuinely interested in exploring a deal for him this summer.
I think most fans would be hopeful he can play as good or better than how he did at Atalanta.
It's also pretty obvious that he was overhyped and is not a generational talent, so I'm pretty convinced no italian clubs will make a big offer to Man Utd (if at all, it's obvious he needs to go and by waiting they can expect a better offer).
No one in his right mind would spend €40M+ for Hojlund, let's be honest.
But I can see a ~45M buyout working out after one good season, the big problem is not the money, but spending money on a player that is worth that much.
Inter absolutely need a third world class striker, Correa+Taremi+Arnatovic had 2000 minutes combined in the last Seria A while scoring only 7 goals (6 without penalties), Taremi also started in a lot of CL matches.
Frattesi was bought as a backup midfielder for 30M (and was a disaster because he could not really replace Barella or Mkhitaryan), money is not really a problem.
From what i saw, Hojlund did his best work playing in a front two at Atalanta. Playing as a lone striker who is expected to hold the ball up hasn't been his game.
Maybe he would be a good option for Inter?
Always good to hear opinions from other fan groups.
I'm not 100% sure, Atalanta under Gasperini has a very peculiar attacking phase, and the striker usually doesn't need to hold the ball.
They also mostly attack from the sides, while a striker like Hojlund is usually focused on the finishing.
Inter plays in a completely different way, both strikers need to hold the ball up during the build-up, even with the improved attacking phase that we have seen under Inzaghi the core of the team is very similar to Conte's team, in that Inter Lukaku and Lautaro needed to win duels against defenders to create chances.
Ideally you could use Hojlund to run behind defenders while the other striker hold the ball up, but it will make everything a lot more difficult for the other striker.
There is also a new manager and we don't really know much about Chivu, he will probably start with Inzaghi's 3-5-2 but I'm sure he will change something before next season starts.
We should be serious about getting one anyway
Quite an obsession over dumping him before or over jadon and marcus
None of them are gonna be easy to shift
I would genuinely rather have Rashford as our starting 9 this season over Hojlund.
As for Sancho. He's only got 1 year left on his contract anyway so he'll probably end up on loan and then never seen or heard from again. Sulking about in the Turkish league or something.
Hardly. Martial had two seasons where he was clearly very good, and another two where he was our best attacker when Mourinho actually gave him a run in the team but Jose constantly picked other worse-performing players ahead of him. Pre-injuries, he only had the one truly bad season and that was when he was first moved out to the left wing role (as opposed to the inside left position he sometimes played before that).
Even after the injuries he had some seasons where he was fairly good when he could get on the pitch, although obviously not at the level he previously was. Of course, he did also have a couple of shockingly bad seasons at that point as well.
Would like to see if Real Madrid in a world where they didn't have Benzema would stick with Luka Jović for more than 2 seasons as 1st choice striker and still say "let's give him a chance in his third season", or if PSG, Bayern Munich, Man City, Barca etc. would stick with Hojlund for more than 2 seasons with the level of performances he had in the Man Utd shirt. Also the same can be said about Onana and how many big clubs would go into the 3rd season with as him the 1st choice GK after all the horror games he had in our shirt or maybe how many of those clubs would stick with Lindelof for 8 fecking years.
We are sticking too long with players who don't perform.
We are sticking too long with players who don't perform.
If we could predict a motivated and hard working Rashford, I'd be for that too.
This is what happens when you have not watched him play for United for a while...we start thinking he could do a job.
He was given the chance when Amorim first came in.. his hold up and back to goal play is just as bad if not worse than Hojlunds.
He is not a CF, he cannot play in tight spaces and needs space to run.
You'd think people would learn after mediocrity like Bailly and Lindelof managed 7 and 8 years here. Shaw will have lasted 13 fecking years when we are finally rid of him on June 30th 2027.
And still you have people like; "No no, just give him another year." and this coming off the back of a historically shit season with him leading the line and he still had someone like Bruno behind him putting up numbers and he could do feck all.
Why are people so clingy with shit footballers?
We are agree to disagree. Beside the good season where he had 17 Premier league goals, the only two seasons where he had two digits were 10 and 11 goals. His assist rates isnt really high either. I think he showed potential but never really hit the high.
I don't disagree but I'm beginning to think we're stuck with Rashford for the foreseeable and honestly I think I'd rather have him on the bench than pay him to play somewhere else.
A front 3 of Cunha, Rashford, Mbuemo might work... maybe. I'd back him to score more goals than Hojlund anyway.
Inter already bought two players for 40 mil euros. Italian clubs have money (not saying that they are loaded with it) but they pretend to be poor.
I hope that we will hold our ground here and refuse any loan offer.
I hope that we will hold our ground here and refuse any loan offer.
Yeah fed up of these clubs pleading poverty, certainly wouldn't accept it from Leverkusen after their windfall
I read they already signed a striker from Parma (I think) named Bony (I think) and will no longer be going for Hojlund.
When was the last time an Italian team bought a player outright? 2003? They love a loan.
Napoli bought Scottie from us just last season.
Bargain of the century. How much could they sell him for now?
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He will have eclipsed Jones' 12 years by that time.he's been here THAT long?!
And we've still stuck with him another two years?!
Bailly 7.
Lindelof 8.
Jones 12.
Shaw 13.
40 years of wages pissed down the drain on them.
Unbelievable.
I'm convinced the old senior management team were hell bent on sabotaging us intentionally. There's just no other excuse for such horrendous incompetence.
The good old.. we will extend to keep the market value but can't sell the players because they paid them too much.
Well when you read it like that suddenly Lindelof doesn't seem so bad. At least he was available.
Shaw feels like he's not played consecutive games for us since about 2019.
A loan with an obligation to buy is a difficult deal because if the club can’t come to terms with the player how does the deal get finalized
Exactly that's why we shouldn't get involved with one
And all of them had next to no impact in that time. Cantona was here 4 years, look at the mark he left.
I think he’d have scored far more than Hojlund you’re right. So would Sancho, but the two of them have burned all bridges.
It’s a real predicament. Sell them for peanuts or keep them here and not use them. I am aghast at how far Rashford has fallen. Personally and professionally.
If we can get £50 million for the pair, I’d take that and draw a line under it. That money could be well used and it would be two top earners off the books.
Gonna be near impossible to shift Sancho because of being unwilling to take any pay cut, in terms of Hojlund it's finding a team with money and not Inter pleading poverty for loan.
I think Sancho will have enough suitors, especially from German sides. I expect even someone with a terrible work like Sancho will eventually realise that he needs to work and he’ll have to accept a pay cut to remain employed.
Hojlund I expect to stay and remain a back up option to whoever we buy to play up top. I just don’t see anyone parting with their cash for a guy who can’t hit a banjo with a barn door.
Hojlund’s attitude is great. I like that about him. Especially after the terrible season he’s just had. He has been a liability on the pitch, but if he remains here as a back up, he might just improve with the pressure off. If the right offer comes in it’s an obvious decision to sell though because we need the cash to try to raise enough to buy the top forward we need now.
We have so many expensive players that are difficult to shift and not necessarily because they can’t play. We’ve invested too much money in bang average players with suspect personalities and then wonder why we can’t move them on when they misbehave or turn to shit.
Hojlund 2.0 is Hojlund but one year older
Please just get rid of him FFS
Yeah only if he's a backup to a new number 9
I still think he is a victim of circumstance. Playing at the start of the season with any combination of Rashford, Anthony, Garnacho who all do the same thing. Step over, run inside and then try to shoot. No matter what Rasmus does he won't get played in because none of them look up. Which was sad during the later half of the season where you see Rasmus link play to Garnacho, continue his run and never at any point look like getting the ball returned to him.
Also you have to consider whats going on in the training ground. It's been hinted on TOTD and other places that the anti Rasmus stories from Carrington came from Garnacho or his brother. I reckon it was pretty toxic for him. One of the reasons United want to clean house.
I'm not wearing rose tinted glasses and i can completely see that in much of the season he was rank and lots of his failings were basic striker skills that are all on him to resolve. However I can see why United are unwillng to give him up as a failed project. I hope Ruben said to him at the end of the season "Go have a holiday. Clear your head. Start fresh next season. The other players in the front line will be completely different next season. I want to see you starting fresh with them in July"
He looked like he had something the previous season. Not sure if he'll be able to recapture it with us but as a childhood United fan I'm sure he'll be motivated and with Cunha and Mbeumo there as 10s it's his best chance.
Not saying this is what i want. I want a prime RVN clone leading our line. But after the upheaval we've had this season i can understand why we might hold off until the end of July to make a call on him.
Also you have to consider whats going on in the training ground. It's been hinted on TOTD and other places that the anti Rasmus stories from Carrington came from Garnacho or his brother. I reckon it was pretty toxic for him. One of the reasons United want to clean house.
I'm not wearing rose tinted glasses and i can completely see that in much of the season he was rank and lots of his failings were basic striker skills that are all on him to resolve. However I can see why United are unwillng to give him up as a failed project. I hope Ruben said to him at the end of the season "Go have a holiday. Clear your head. Start fresh next season. The other players in the front line will be completely different next season. I want to see you starting fresh with them in July"
He looked like he had something the previous season. Not sure if he'll be able to recapture it with us but as a childhood United fan I'm sure he'll be motivated and with Cunha and Mbeumo there as 10s it's his best chance.
Not saying this is what i want. I want a prime RVN clone leading our line. But after the upheaval we've had this season i can understand why we might hold off until the end of July to make a call on him.
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They’re right though