If he goes to Serie A on loan there’s a good chance he does well another to be someone we can sell next summer. Another season at Utd just doesn’t make sense for anyone, ideally we’d sell him but it’s just not plausible this summer.
Rasmus Hojlund - Linked to Inter on loan
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
Yeah could help him to get a permanent move
What actually went wrong with this guy Such a shame.
He actually had a good start in the Champions league, and when he got his 1st Premier league goal he hit a lovely purple patch and it appeared we had a future start.
His 2nd season was so bad though, as if he was carrying an injury or his confidence was absolutely shot and it got progressively worse.
I do think there is a decent player in there, but the United shirt is too pressurised for him and for the sake of him and us it is best he is gone. One positive is he at least like a few others hasn't afaik thrown any toys out of his pram!
He actually had a good start in the Champions league, and when he got his 1st Premier league goal he hit a lovely purple patch and it appeared we had a future start.
His 2nd season was so bad though, as if he was carrying an injury or his confidence was absolutely shot and it got progressively worse.
I do think there is a decent player in there, but the United shirt is too pressurised for him and for the sake of him and us it is best he is gone. One positive is he at least like a few others hasn't afaik thrown any toys out of his pram!
Injured in preseason didn't help.
I could see Hojlund going on to have a good career, but last season was so catastrophically bad, it seems impossible that it could happen at United. It’s a shame for him, because he should never have just been dropped into the team as the first choice number 9. Fergie eased the likes of Rooney into the team, and he’s no Rooney. A shame he didn’t arrive as a backup to someone like Ibra or Cavani.
A loan with an option seems the most likely outcome now. Good luck to him, can’t fault his effort like some others.
A loan with an option seems the most likely outcome now. Good luck to him, can’t fault his effort like some others.
I think there is a better player in there. Said the same about McT long ago, and got laughed at here. With better service, Rasmus will do better. Are there better strikers out there? Of course
I wouldn't be against keeping him IF we had the finances to do that whilst still signing a top striker
I like him but I don’t know if he’ll thrive on the kind of service mbuemo and cunha will be providing. At least they are physical and will get stuck in around him. For a guy of his size his holdup play became the most frustrating thing. Fair you’re not getting goals but at least bring others into play and run the channels. He even stopped doing that.
Who do you think would thrive from their service?
How did Rooney get eased into the team? He was first choice immediately in the 04/05 season. He started 24 out of 29 games he was available for that season in the premier league.
Yeah agree. He was literally thrown into the team as soon as he was fit, and I still remember exactly where I was when I watched that.
He does run the channels but it's very ineffective right now. I've noticed so many times when he makes the run into the channel, the ball gets played and he can't do much with it. The best case scenario is basically take a touch and pass it back. Someone like a Delap with more bravery and ability to take the CB on in these situations and run down the line would've been a huge upgrade. But his running with the ball was actually quite good when he first came in, so I'm not sure if it's a mental thing or what. I think there's some scope for improvement here.
Simple long balls to his head, he's basically useless and don't expect him to improve very much beyond just half hearted attempts to challenge for the ball.
Drop deep + ball to feet .. he's a bit awkward. Tries to use his backside to get separation from the CB and turn and pass but it's very hit or miss. I think the potential is there in these situations. He had several cases where he received the ball and played it to a marauding Garnacho / Rashford on the left wing.
Overall I still think he's just very raw and many obvious areas of improvement exist with him. If he was cheap and brought in to develop behind a more established striker I think we'd be fine with all of these. Now the environment around him is very toxic so I don't know what the best way forward for him is.
Didn't it take until November or something for his first league goal? So "what happened?" isn't really the question, as he was always sub standard. Many players have good records in certain competitions (Klose is a beast in WCs, etc) or have good runs like he did in the CL but the day to day is where you really learn about a player.
He has some raw attributes but seems to lack intelligence and instincts of a striker, his positioning and movement is pretty terrible at the moment and he is unable to get hold of the ball and keep it. When a player constantly surrenders possession they will lose confidence in themselves as will their teammates which will make you think twice about giving that player the ball unless they're in great positions, which Hojlund rarely gets himself into.
Some day he could become a good player, but right now he needs to be elsewhere learning his trade with less eyes and less pressure on him. Signing him as our main striker was always a stupid decision, you would be hoping for a miracle in expecting a kid who scored around 20 career goals at senior level to come in and lead Manchester United's strike force, especially when he lacks other attributes and technique that young stars like Rooney or Martial had which meant that they could contribute to your overall team fluidity, cohesion and overall performance. I couldn't believe my eyes when fans told some of us we were being ridiculous for questioning the logic and how we didn't need an experienced, quality striker ahead of him.
I would look to send him on loan somewhere for a season or 2 before re-evaluating and perhaps building his rep back to ensure we make some return on selling him, but I wouldn't be opposed to just selling.
I'm sure he'll make the most of his pre-season by practicing a new celebration. Not sure for what mind.
Osimhen is the surest thing out there this summer
Predominantly on the left, with Ruud as our main goal threat. He wasn’t thrust up front on his own with the entire goalscoring burden on his shoulder.
Hojlund might well just not be good enough, but it’s hard to argue that we’ve handled his development well.
When he gets the ball, he always seems to get tackled fairly (no foul) and we lose possession. I don't know what's up with that. At least draw a foul or something by protecting the ball. Or is he just so unlucky this season?
There must be a negotiation point for him in terms of what wages he would be willing to accept
that's because he's not built like Mark Hughes. It's not his strength and he usually has no one around him otehr than two opponents. As you say, Cunha and Mbeumo would help.
Haaland isn't great at hold-up play and he's built like a tank. I'd just like to see Rasmus given a chance with better players around him
Still wouldn't want him to be a starter
What's the point of bringing up Rooney. Rooney was undeniable, a force of nature, one of the most exciting teenage talents ever seen.
No. Hojlund doesn't deserve another chance as starting striker. He can come from the bench, though it's probably better for everyone if he were to go to a club that corresponds with his level.
Watching last season he did actually get fouled fairly frequently but rarely got the decision. I don’t know if it was a case of referees buying into the meme of him falling on his arse but a few times he was blatantly hauled down and the refs just waved things on. Sometimes players get a raw deal because of a false impression, Dan James was fouled a lot due to his pace and the refs kept accusing him of diving and yet you would watch a replay and see clear contact.
Unless that "easy" condition is him not missing the contract when he signs, then it should 100% be permanent or they can feck off.
If they are paying his wages for the year. Get that deal done.
Inter are signing Bonny instead
They want both
I think it’s more a financial reasoning , sell him and we’ve funds to replace him. Loan him out and we’ve 1 striker going into the season
Why would they want both when they already have Thuram, Martinez, and Teremi plus they said Francesco Pio Esposito would be promoted to their senior squad this summer?
Supposedly Teremi is on his way out.
Won't be going anywhere then
Thuram and Martinez are untouchables... From their sqaud they have shifted Arnautovic and Correa and replaced them with Bonny and Esposito, I’d guess if Taremi is leaving they will get another striker...
Does not make sense, he is not on high wages. We need money to buy players, otherwise he stays as squad option.
It's a strange one because he isn't a bad player - at least not as bad as some make him out to be. Clearly the problem is mental - but if he had better players around him, he would score more goals. So many times this season he could have had easy tap-ins if the players around him did the right thing (and that is basically every single player in the team with the exception of Bruno and Amad). Instead he is left angry and frustrated
I am not saying this is the only reason - he of course should have done a lot better himself when he got the chances - but I genuinely believe if he is given a chance to play with Cunha, Bruno and Mbuemo behind him - he will do a lot better. Of course we need a new striker, but I wouldn't mind if we keep him until new years. If there is still no improvment let him go then or next summer
I am not saying this is the only reason - he of course should have done a lot better himself when he got the chances - but I genuinely believe if he is given a chance to play with Cunha, Bruno and Mbuemo behind him - he will do a lot better. Of course we need a new striker, but I wouldn't mind if we keep him until new years. If there is still no improvment let him go then or next summer
If it’s easy conditions for it to become an obligation (a proper one, not a Sancho one), then why would we reject that? Take the deal and get him out of the club.
Why aren’t Inter just buying him instead of a loan if the conditions are that easy?
It sounds dodgy to me. And it’s an Italian club. They know how to string these kind of deals together to their advantage.
They obviously need a back door, and will have enough squad depth to just place him in the stands if they find out they won’t like to trigger the clauses.
Straight loan is so clearly the correct move for us here anyway. No idea why we would insist on a permanent sale when his value is at rock bottom and it would be even worse if we decide to keep him.
Wonder what the conditions are