Rasmus Hojlund | Napoli player

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If it is 30-40 million, I think we should just do it. I cannot see Hoijund ready to lead the line. Maybe a sell-on and buy-back clause.
 
I hope he's open to a move. It's not sustainable for this club to have so many CF options if we do bring in 1, and he's not PL-level.
 
Interesting stat from BBC Football. I wouldn't write him off just yet. Think he will get alot more chances created for him this season if he stays.

"..Hojilund has 61 goals for club and country, but while some score many more - Erling Haaland had gone past 100 by the time he was Hojlund's age - others take longer.

England's leading goalscorer Harry Kane had only scored 53 goals by the time he was 22.."
 
I'm not writing off Hojlund turning it around but last year was just so bad, everything went wrong.

He has the tools to be a good striker.
 
I think the main issue is that he hasn't had an established striker at the club who takes pressure off him. I'm not ready to give up on him, I still think there's a player there - but he's just not ready to be the focal point of Manchester Uniteds attack and lead the line at this point. The fact that he has to be is not on him, it's on the club for not bringing in another guy to challenge him and take pressure off him while he develops. That's why I hoped we could go and sign Watkins, he'd have been the perfect addition right now. Not sure Sesko will be just that, but finally bringing in some competition for Hojlund should be good either way.
 
dinostar77 said:
Interesting stat from BBC Football. I wouldn't write him off just yet. Think he will get alot more chances created for him this season if he stays.

"..Hojilund has 61 goals for club and country, but while some score many more - Erling Haaland had gone past 100 by the time he was Hojlund's age - others take longer.

England's leading goalscorer Harry Kane had only scored 53 goals by the time he was 22.."
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It's best to show how many games/minutes they needed to reach that number.

I think he'll have a better season than last, but I doubt it will be to the level we want from a Manchester United striker.
 
I like his attitude a lot. I hope he stays especially we sign a striker, at this stage of his career he would be better off coming from the bench and rather than starting. . He is not on high wages, and still so young. Give him one season to under Amorim.
 
dinostar77 said:
Interesting stat from BBC Football. I wouldn't write him off just yet. Think he will get alot more chances created for him this season if he stays.

"..Hojilund has 61 goals for club and country, but while some score many more - Erling Haaland had gone past 100 by the time he was Hojlund's age - others take longer.

England's leading goalscorer Harry Kane had only scored 53 goals by the time he was 22.."
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Technically true but ultimately not that comparable:
Tottenham striker Harry Kane has been named the PFA Young Player of the Year. Kane has enjoyed a superb breakthrough season at Spurs, scoring 30 goals in all competitions – more than any other player in English football this term – at only 21 years of age.
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I don't think he's good enough for Man Utd but as always with younger players they can transform pretty quickly.

Ideally I would say keep him as second choice or loan if finances weren't a big issue. If it's preventing us going for a GK and midfielder however I'd be more inclined to sell.
 
I hope we keep him. Having himself and Sesko is a good problem to have. It's just a case of can we afford to keep them and Zirkzee. If we can we should. Obi should get a loan if we do. This way you've 3 improving players fighting it out. The cream rises to the top and we have tactical flexibility. Imagine being a defender after getting battered at old Trafford and then Rasmus comes on to run at you for the last 30 minutes? It's how it should be. Almost anything is better than putting Maguire up top when you're chasing a late goal

Believe it or not I think this is what the players want to see. They want to play but they don't want to feel like they are carrying the team or that we will lose if they have an off day. That's real squad building. Depth but quality and potential over quantity
 
Ali Dia said:
I hope we keep him. Having himself and Sesko is a good problem to have. It's just a case of can we afford to keep them and Zirkzee. If we can we should. Obi should get a loan if we do. This way you've 3 improving players fighting it out. The cream rises to the top and we have tactical flexibility. Imagine being a defender after getting battered at old Trafford and then Rasmus comes on to run at you for the last 30 minutes? It's how it should be. Almost anything is better than putting Maguire up top when you're chasing a late goal
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It sounds like you didn't watch Hojlund at all last season
 
AndySmith1990 said:
It sounds like you didn't watch Hojlund at all last season
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I turned off last season apart from the Europa. I'm not a sex masochist after all. I saw Rasmus enough to see he'd lost confidence and his teammates had lost confidence in him and each other. This season is a fresh start and he looks a lot more like his old self when he first arrived.

I bet he'll have a better season than Sesko if he stays!
 
AndySmith1990 said:
It sounds like you didn't watch Hojlund at all last season
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Whilst he was bad last season, having Mbeumo and Cunha arrive at the club and those two + Dorgu and Amad schooled in a better system of play geared to driving at the opponent and creating space in the final third....

That is light years away from what Hojlund had to put up with last season.

I think United should have a better striker than Hojlund up front purely because we are who we are and should have a player that is a genuine top tier talent that everyone else should envy. But judging a guy so harshly based on the start of the seasons when there was not a single 10 at the club who would try to find him is pretty poor.
 
With Hojlund I feel he needs to prove himself to his teammates first, I always get the feeling they don't believe in him, which is understandable.

But he would need to have one hell of a step up in terms of performance to win them over.
 
The one player I really want to see succeed here. Despite all the criticism he has never lashed out and has always put his head down. Deserves another chance as a squad player for now.
 
DRJosh said:
The one player I really want to see succeed here. Despite all the criticism he has never lashed out and has always put his head down. Deserves another chance as a squad player for now.
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Antony also has a great attitute, does he deserve another chance too?
 
Rolaholic said:


How would it work having 2 22 year old €70m+ strikers in the side?
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They'd share the minutes until one of them started scoring in nearly every game and then the other would become a sub and work on their game out of the spotlight and challenge the starter all the way. It's a talent driven industry. The more talent at your disposal the better. If one drops off or someone better comes along you sell up and reinvest. Keep the talent moving until you strike gold

You keep standards high by having the best players scrapping over their place in the team. If you just roll out the red carpet you have players like Rashford and Sancho phoning it in whenever they don't feel like it
 
Ali Dia said:
Antony wants to leave. He went public and said so. I would imagine that combined with him not being great is enough to get him a move away. Rasmus has always worked hard and got on with it.
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Antony shouldn't be here whether he wants to leave or not.

Either they're good enough, or they're not. They've had two seasons to show their worth here.

We aren't a charity club.
 
I think we should probably keep him even we do sign a striker. He'll be a very serviceable option off the bench at worst - his stamina is poor and he quite often looks better in short burts at the start of games or just after half time. I think Atalanta managed his minutes quite well as an impact player and that's probably the way to get something out of him.

Zirkzee isn't the kind of striker we need and Obi doesn't quite look ready for senior football, let alone PL football. I'd rather see Hojlund coming off the bench than either of them at 70 mins when we need a goal.
 
I’ve always thought Zirkzee would go before Hojlund. I just don’t see where Zirkzee fits for us.
 
I love seeing how the general opinion of him has changed after one goal in pre season. After what he's shown last season, he doesn't deserve another chance here. Get him out.
 
Martial said:
Antony shouldn't be here whether he wants to leave or not.

Either they're good enough, or they're not. They've had two seasons to show their worth here.

We aren't a charity club.
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Martial was here for about 7 or 8 seasons wasnt he? I get that progress isn't always linear. Some players start off great and taper off and vice versa. Where you see a donkey I see a talented young lad who suffered badly in every game last season but was really promising in the hardest league in the world the season before. Player of the month for February. He clearly has talent that we haven't been able to maximise. I would be keen to give him a chance with better players around him and a more settled club in the background. Him carrying us last year would have been a fairytale when he clearly wasn't even nearly ready and he wasn't getting any chances either. I think if he was enjoying his football he would be a lot more effective and wouldn't hide in these endless tussles with centre backs
 
aeh1991 said:
I love seeing how the general opinion of him has changed after one goal in pre season. After what he's shown last season, he doesn't deserve another chance here. Get him out.
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That would be your interpretation of it though. I would say that he played well against West Ham and then last night had a good game regardless of the headed goal. He made intelligent runs in the box which he has frequently been lambasted for not doing, he linked up very well with the rest of the team, won duels and played his teammates into dangerous positions. He was a proper handful for the Bournemouth defenders and used his size and speed to unsettle them rather than grappling with them.

I am not for one second saying he has done enough in a couple of pre season games to completely flip the narrative but it is only fair to recognize that he is showing improvement in what is effectively the first pre season he has ever had at United and if he can build on this into the regular season, a massive if I know, then he would be a very useful member of the squad. I would still add another striker who at worst would split the load and more likely be the first choice but then we still need a backup and on the form he is showing Rasmus could fill that role.
 
Gandalf said:
That would be your interpretation of it though. I would say that he played well against West Ham and then last night had a good game regardless of the headed goal. He made intelligent runs in the box which he has frequently been lambasted for not doing, he linked up very well with the rest of the team, won duels and played his teammates into dangerous positions. He was a proper handful for the Bournemouth defenders and used his size and speed to unsettle them rather than grappling with them.

I am not for one second saying he has done enough in a couple of pre season games to completely flip the narrative but it is only fair to recognize that he is showing improvement in what is effectively the first pre season he has ever had at United and if he can build on this into the regular season, a massive if I know, then he would be a very useful member of the squad. I would still add another striker who at worst would split the load and more likely be the first choice but then we still need a backup and on the form he is showing Rasmus could fill that role.
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It was not only him but also players like Mount or Shaw looked great yesterday, so I wouldn't read too much into it. The moment the new season begins with more pressure, I am sure he will fall back to his old form and frustrate us, but that's my opinion.
 
aeh1991 said:
It was not only him but also players like Mount or Shaw looked great yesterday, so I wouldn't read too much into it. The moment the new season begins with more pressure, I am sure he will fall back to his old form and frustrate us, but that's my opinion.
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Fair enough, for obvious reasons I hope you are wrong as it is better for the team but I do get where you are coming from, just wanted to clarify that it was more than just the goal that was good about his game yesterday but for sure one game is pretty meaningless in the scheme of things but the summer is always when I am most optimistic, I may be singing a different tune come October.
 
northernsoul74 said:
I’ve always thought Zirkzee would go before Hojlund. I just don’t see where Zirkzee fits for us.
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Yeah he doesnt seem like he fits Amorims idea of a striker in his system. He also lacks the intensity to play as one of the 10s. But i would rather keep keep him than mount. Zirkzee has a better fitness record.
 
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