Zico1982
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Well. UEFA says it is. Take a look at the five year ranking.It really isn't.
Well. UEFA says it is. Take a look at the five year ranking.It really isn't.
The thing is, when he came up against Premier League opposition this season in the CL I saw everything I needed to see - ineffective, terrible hold up play, nudged off the ball easily.
He can score 50 goals in Italy and he still won’t be good enough for this league with such basic essentials missing.
But it doesn’t matter when there’s a yawning chasm between the Premier League and everywhere else right now, which is the current state of play.Well. UEFA says it is. Take a look at the five year ranking.
He played well throughout. A few things to consider because his form has been poor, he has started almost every game for months now. He has looked dead on his feet a few times. His backup Lucca has been sent to Forest (scored yesterday for them). Lukaku isn't fit enough for 15 minutes yet.
The midfield has been decimated because injuries in midfield have been (and still all out) De Bruyne, Gilmour, Anguissa. They've started McTominay and Lobotka 3 times a week since December with mostly a wide player in Elmas having to play centre midfield.
So the creativity was meant to come from the wings but Neres picked up a long term injury, Noa Lang was loaned out to Galatasaray, Politano is injured.
Napoli's shining light has Vergara who played in Serie B last season but that's only been for about 4 games.
There's been a lot against Hojlund. Has had the hard task of playing 90 minutes every game with everyone around him dropping like flies. McTominay might be another one injured and Di Lorenzo will also face some time out
If I'm honest, I don't even know how they're managing to score goals with everyone creative being out. McTominay was playing a man possessed tonight but was unfortunately injured.
According to UEFA the chasm between the PL and the Serie A is smaller than the one between Serie A and the french league. IN between are La Liga and the Bundesliga.But it doesn’t matter when there’s a yawning chasm between the Premier League and everywhere else right now, which is the current state of play.
Remember how far ahead Serie A was in the 80s and 90s? That’s the Premier League today. Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford finish in the CL spots in any other European league.
Conte begs to differ about his all round game. He keeps praising him.His all round game still looks really poor at napoli, he still struggles to get shots off, stuggles to get involved and has long goalless spells with his goals in purple patches
Conte begs to differ about his all round game. He keeps praising him.
And regarding the goalless spells you have just had 2-3 posts explaining why - all their creative players are out injured.
So? That doesn’t prove that he has been shit all season which was the claim I reacted to.Conte can praise him all he likes but the eye test shows it...
If you even look at the Chelsea game, it was his failure to hold the ball up that led to the Chelsea goal.
So? That doesn’t prove that he has been shit all season which was the claim I reacted to.
He has now had two of the best Italian coaches and they both have high expectations for him. No one knows how good he’ll become, but there’s no doubt that his primary strengths are skills that are hard to teach. Gasperini and Conte both see him as a very pacy player who can become one of the best finishers in the world and with the right coaching a very good to world class all round center forward. I trust their judgement more than your eye.
No they won't, Roma is better than all of them and Roma haven't finished in top 4 since 17/18But it doesn’t matter when there’s a yawning chasm between the Premier League and everywhere else right now, which is the current state of play.
Remember how far ahead Serie A was in the 80s and 90s? That’s the Premier League today. Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford finish in the CL spots in any other European league.
Lookman was the only one I'd consider out of the 4, but he joined Atletico.Being a bit harsh, when is the last time someone actually cared about the top goalscorers in Serie A? Osimhen maybe, and he ended up plying his trade in Turkey.
Last season's top four were Mateo Retegui, Moise Kean, Riccardo Orsolini, and Ademola Lookman. Anyone keen on bringing any of those to Old Trafford? Højlund is not proving anything in Serie A right now, other than that it is a better fit for him. He could get 25 goals, and I still wouldn't want him near our squad next year.
We looked at Kean, many wanted Lookman after his spell at Atalanta in fairness.Being a bit harsh, when is the last time someone actually cared about the top goalscorers in Serie A? Osimhen maybe, and he ended up plying his trade in Turkey.
Last season's top four were Mateo Retegui, Moise Kean, Riccardo Orsolini, and Ademola Lookman. Anyone keen on bringing any of those to Old Trafford? Højlund is not proving anything in Serie A right now, other than that it is a better fit for him. He could get 25 goals, and I still wouldn't want him near our squad next year.
That's fine.. if they think he will become a world class centre forward, that is their opinion.
I dont expect you to believe me but I watched him for 2 seasons and I saw his potential.
In my view, he wont be a world class CF because his first touch was poor, his off the ball runs were poor and his anticipation was poor. Yes, in Serie A he may do very well because he has pace, but I see him more in the Lukaku range, excels in a slower league.
It's not even to shit on Serie A, but it seems obvious that the lack of intensity and physicality in that league does not translate super well to the Premier League for strikers. At least you need to take it seriously into account when assessing a striker. I would say the same for the Bundesliga and how open it is.We looked at Kean, many wanted Lookman after his spell at Atalanta in fairness.
Serie A is a decent league, more importantly it's quite entertaining - the way the UEFA rankings work, I would suspect it is a very competitive league (inter have been on a roll recently but the top 4/5 are tighter than in the PL for example) but lacks the real top quality you will find in other leagues.
I really dislike Lukaku, and his record in big games is appalling.I don't think he will ever be as good as Lukaku. Lukaku had a very good spell in England and at international football where he's second to Cristiano for most goals for a European nation.
I think mostly the discussion is based on his second season here which some see as his actual level and others think was due to circumstances. For me it’s not about us as he’s not coming back, but there’s a tendency among some fans to make him seem a very bad player when he clearly isn’t. So the question shouldn’t be if he’s league one-material, but how good he can become from here - and “here” is a very promising forward at a top club in a top 3-league.Being a bit harsh, when is the last time someone actually cared about the top goalscorers in Serie A? Osimhen maybe, and he ended up plying his trade in Turkey.
Last season's top four were Mateo Retegui, Moise Kean, Riccardo Orsolini, and Ademola Lookman. Anyone keen on bringing any of those to Old Trafford? Højlund is not proving anything in Serie A right now, other than that it is a better fit for him. He could get 25 goals, and I still wouldn't want him near our squad next year.
Easily my 2nd favorite league to watch outside of the EPL.We looked at Kean, many wanted Lookman after his spell at Atalanta in fairness.
Serie A is a decent league, more importantly it's quite entertaining - the way the UEFA rankings work, I would suspect it is a very competitive league (inter have been on a roll recently but the top 4/5 are tighter than in the PL for example) but lacks the real top quality you will find in other leagues.
So good a pass, it’s almost like he was trying to pass to someone else entirely…He made a brilliant assist in the Cup yesterday...
Roma who have Brighton’s third choice striker on loan? That Roma?No they won't, Roma is better than all of them and Roma haven't finished in top 4 since 17/18
He is also Roma's third choice and have been playing like shit so what exactly is your point?Roma who have Brighton’s third choice striker on loan? That Roma?
He was appalling so they got a backup from Villa instead, who is doing greatRoma who have Brighton’s third choice striker on loan? That Roma?
He is also 3d choice at Roma… And even the Roma that destroyed Brighton in the EL didn’t make the top 4… They had to concede it to Atalanta that destroyed Klopp’s Liverpool on their way to win EL.Roma who have Brighton’s third choice striker on loan? That Roma?
Precisely. A lad who hardly set the Premier League alight. I love Italian football, grew up on it, but Scott McT and Romelu Lukaku winning POTY says everything about how far it’s fallen.He was appalling so they got a backup from Villa instead, who is doing great
Scott McT and Romelu Lukaku winning POTY says everything about how far it’s fallen.
We're talking about this season, not the next or 5 years from now
What's there to explain? Italy hasn't produced great players in a while, which is why the league is full of players who aren't italian. I mean, of the teams in the top 8-10 Bologna are the only one with more than 2-3 italians regularly starting matches, excluding gks. And they're 7th
Nearly 70% of players to have made an appearance in Serie A in 25/26 are foreigners
My eyes don’t lie, Italian football is a bit shite at the moment
My eyes don’t lie, Italian football is a bit shite at the moment
Yeah, and it should be given to a team that didn't dive their way to the final!They should be stripped of their euro 2021 win
Yes and that team is England who valiently should have won the trophyYeah, and it should be given to a team that didn't dive their way to the final!
England cheated. Might as well call is Cheatland!Yes and that team is England who valiently should have won the trophy
It's not cheating when you're the main charactersEngland cheated. Might as well call is Cheatland!
It’s coming home mate.It's not cheating when you're the main characters
It's not cheating when you're the main characters
My eyes don’t lie, Italian football is a bit shite at the moment