A bit of buzz out of Italy about Rasmus and Napoli. Juve also mentioned.
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Rasmus Hojlund (Out)
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Get rid.
Had high hopes for him, but he really hasn't delivered. Time to move on.
I suspect this has some basis but personally I see the potential in Rasmus and believe we should find a way to keep him. Ideally, as a backup to a more experienced striker. Then he can take over in 3-4 years.
That's precisely what he should've always been - a developmental striker who can develop gradually over time behind a more experienced, established striker. It wasn't of course Hojlund's fault he was thrown into club in transition without a Ruud, Rooney, RvP, or Zlatan type player to let him develop behind the scenes before taking the reigns.
If we can get 30m or make him part of some sort of player plus money deal for Osimhen, then we should make it happen.
I don't see the point, just means we need to buy like 3 strikers in the summer and there are very few strikers with the right quality and age, and they will cost so much.
Also I like Höjlund, he never stops running and he has shown he can score, he is young and he needs someone to shoulder some of the responsibility
Also I like Höjlund, he never stops running and he has shown he can score, he is young and he needs someone to shoulder some of the responsibility
A prolific striker can create and score goals out of nothing. I just don’t see it with Rasmus.
Give me a list of some forwards that have been developed like that in the last 15 years.
The idea that less game time is what successfully develops young players is monumentally stupid, yet peddled around here like some obvious fact.
Young players need game time to develop. For that you need them to be at solid clubs that are willing to go through the growing pains of developing them. We're not that place and haven't been for a long time. A lot of well advised young players have learned that in the last few years and snubbed us for moves to better suited clubs.
Him coming to Man Utd was always a bad choice - we did a poor job with Martial who was way more ready/talented, there's no way we were ever the right place to develop someone as raw as Hojlund.
Discuss a loan or something with them, he will be okay in maybe another 1-2 years time. In the meantime we need a solid professional striker who gets the job done from minute one, right now.
Watched some RvP highlights recently. This is what we should aim for. I have no problem in selling him
The issue here is, were we to sell Hojlund, we would really need to bring in two strikers in the Summer as he's the only senior one in the squad.
Swap with Osimhen. Then buy Gyokeres...
Swap with Osimhen. Then buy Gyokeres...
That’d be overkill, if you swapped him for Osimhen you could then look at getting David in for a free and using that money in another position.
Please God.
Like Ruud?
Starts at £50m/€60m. Whittles down to €25m-€30m.
In the days, where we would have 3-5 potential starting strikers, I wouldn't mind keeping him. But if someone wants to pay anything near 50m for him, and with our financial situation in mind, we should take the money and run.
Such a bad decision to buy him and rely so heavily on a young and inexperienced striker. Feel really sorry for him. It could have turned out differently in the long run, if he would have been third choice behind a couple of experienced players.
Such a bad decision to buy him and rely so heavily on a young and inexperienced striker. Feel really sorry for him. It could have turned out differently in the long run, if he would have been third choice behind a couple of experienced players.
Time to leave. Simply lacks the killer instinct.
Something about his technique looks off.
He looks like he would really do well in the Bundesliga and Serie A because there's so much space behind the back line for him to use his pure speed - however in the PL you need more than speed.
You need close control, dribbling ability, hold up play, heading ability, quick positioning etc.
As I've always said, my main worry with Hojlund is not how he played for us but how he played for Denmark. The games are usually at a much lower level. He just doesn't get involved in the game that much and seems like a ghost in the team xi and that is really detrimental to us. He seems to have improved this a bit in the last 2-3 games and if he continues this to the end of the season where it doesn't feel like we are playing with 10 men then I don't mind keeping him as a back up. If he can't do it until the end of the season then sell.
He looks like he would really do well in the Bundesliga and Serie A because there's so much space behind the back line for him to use his pure speed - however in the PL you need more than speed.
You need close control, dribbling ability, hold up play, heading ability, quick positioning etc.
As I've always said, my main worry with Hojlund is not how he played for us but how he played for Denmark. The games are usually at a much lower level. He just doesn't get involved in the game that much and seems like a ghost in the team xi and that is really detrimental to us. He seems to have improved this a bit in the last 2-3 games and if he continues this to the end of the season where it doesn't feel like we are playing with 10 men then I don't mind keeping him as a back up. If he can't do it until the end of the season then sell.
Sell him for 30M
Buy Gyokeres or Oshimhen for 70M
Get David on a free
2 (significantly) better strikers on board for a total of 40M (+ perhaps a signing fee for David)
He'll move to Italy, score thirty before Christmas whilst his replacement here will get injured and or flop.
The 'club management' thread will then light up like a Christmas tree, with anger.
The 'club management' thread will then light up like a Christmas tree, with anger.
And then you woke up.
It's like a weird co-dependent toxic relationship we fans have with our players. For months I've just been infuriated with Højlund, now there's news emerging that we may be able to get rid and replace him, part of my mind automatically goes, aww ... I don't want him to leave, he'll come good. 
Like with any sale, it all depends on the offer. Knowing Italian teams they will offer a 2 year loan with a 15m option to buy with us covering half his wages.
If Napoli want him we could part exchange for Osimhen. Otherwise a straight transfer, no loan with option nonsense that Juve will likely come to us with.
David might be free on the books, but he's not really free. He's run down his contract so will be looking for a big signing on fee and decent wages to go with it. Not sure he'd be happy sitting on the bench most weeks either.
We're not getting the kind of money we'd want from any club in Italy. People saying we should take £30m, but not sure that would break even for PSR. We need a new striker, but it seems most likely we'll hold onto Højlund, for another season at least.
We're not going to sell him and then sign 2 strikers. There's other areas that need strengthening as well.
If he continues to play like he did against Leicester/Soceidad for the rest of the season, then a part of me would want to give him a chance.
With that being said, we should bite the hand off any team offering £50million for him. I wouldn't expect us to get £35million for him at the moment, so that would be an insane deal.
With that being said, we should bite the hand off any team offering £50million for him. I wouldn't expect us to get £35million for him at the moment, so that would be an insane deal.
I doubt they will get anywhere near the asking price especially from Italian clubs. But regardless, United need another CF in addition to Hojlund not necessarily in place of. Zirkzee isn't a CF, and Chido Obi isn't ready for regular first-team football.
Wages gonna be like 5x as high.
Would be a mistake. Give him time. Sure, sign another player to take the pressure off a bit and offer rotation but no need to sell Rasmus yet, especially at a loss.
I don’t think we sign any of those 3 tbh
I agree, but David would be more sensible than Osimhen and Gykores who would be more expensive and be even less happy to be on the bench.
In 4 years he will coming up 27, that's not when players generally break through. He needs game time now however unfortunately we need someone who can deliver now, the timings just not right. He should move on to develop playing week in week out with kess pressure and we could potentially include a buy back
If we can get £40m or so, sell.
I know it's a tough market for strikers at the moment, but our recruitment team has looked much improved since Ineos came in. I'm sure we can find a good backup on a budget from somewhere, to go with the leading striker we already need to bring in.
Relegating Hojlund to the bench won't do any good for his already shaky confidence going forward, so a reset seems like the best option if we can pull it off.
I know it's a tough market for strikers at the moment, but our recruitment team has looked much improved since Ineos came in. I'm sure we can find a good backup on a budget from somewhere, to go with the leading striker we already need to bring in.
Relegating Hojlund to the bench won't do any good for his already shaky confidence going forward, so a reset seems like the best option if we can pull it off.
Hahaha I feel exactly the same! I know he's not good for me but DAMN IT I CAN CHANGE HIM!!It's like a weird co-dependent toxic relationship we fans have with our players. For months I've just been infuriated with Højlund, now there's news emerging that we may be able to get rid and replace him, part of my mind automatically goes, aww ... I don't want him to leave, he'll come good.
As others have said, if we sell him we need to bring in at least two new strikers. I think the sensible thing to do would be to bring in one new first choice striker and have Højlund and Obi as backups next season. Then we revisit our strikers again in 2026.
Of course if someone were to come in with an offer of, say, £50M for him then we'd probably have to take it. I don't expect that to happen though.
Of course if someone were to come in with an offer of, say, £50M for him then we'd probably have to take it. I don't expect that to happen though.
Very few are the main man at his age. The team have been rubbish and the pressure mounted on him. He will succeed and get better, maybe not at the very top top Level but there is a top player in there in a few years. I’d keep as a backup and if he is ready he’ll force his way in.
There’s so many reasons why I don’t see this happening. I can’t see any clubs wanting to part with the amount of money it will take to cover the PSR amount remaining. We’re already desperately short of strikers and trying to find two in the summer is highly improbable.
We’d also be selling a young prospect at the worst possible time. He may be having a poor season but he’s been in a bad team that doesn’t create chances, he’s probably knackered and over played. Hojlund from the first season is an adequate back up.
Worst case if we really don’t even want him as back up, we’re better off loaning him and seeing if he can raise his price a bit for next summer.
We’d also be selling a young prospect at the worst possible time. He may be having a poor season but he’s been in a bad team that doesn’t create chances, he’s probably knackered and over played. Hojlund from the first season is an adequate back up.
Worst case if we really don’t even want him as back up, we’re better off loaning him and seeing if he can raise his price a bit for next summer.
Jonathan David is not a 'significantly better striker' than Rasmus Hojlund. He isn't even an out-and-out CF I'd argue, and doesn't fit the profile of a striker in an Amorim system.
He's beginning to get vastly over-rated on this forum, probably because he's an impending free agent and gets double figures consistently albeit in a top 4/5 team in a weak league and heavily supplemented by penalties.
Good luck to him