Rasmus Hojlund (Out)

stepic said:
Think that’s fair enough. He will be a rotational back up striker next year, so there’s no point selling him for relatively cheap (£30-35m) if it’s going to cost just as much to bring in another backup - and strikers don’t tend to go for peanuts, even back up ones.

I don’t mind Hojlund as the backup, he’s just not ready to lead the line.

The only reason to sell is if we get a decent enough fee which we can not only bring in a cheaper replacement but then use the excess funds on other weaker areas on the pitch.
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Could just sell for 35m and get David as a backup, who cant be worse
 
pablo__p said:
Not a fan of Lukaku whatsoever but his heading is infinitely better than Hojlund's. I used to have a lot of time for Rasmus but I simply can't see him becoming a good let alone great premier league striker. I think he might have a good career in other league's though.
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I agree 100%. Put him in the bundesliga, and I think he would be good for 15+ goals a season for a top half side. But where we want to be, we need a lot more that what I believe he can produce at this level. He will pick up his scoring bit I think in the premier league he will be 1 in 3 with a poor all round game.
 
VP89 said:
Could just sell for 35m and get David as a backup, who cant be worse
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Assuming he’d want to come to us, on a free I imagine he will attract a lot of interest from rivals. He’s already being linked to most of the usual suspects.
 
If these reports are true, I genuinely believe there's a chance we sign two CFs.
 
Selling him makes no sense. Means even when we buy a striker we will have no backup option.

Hojlund should be made backup. Also selling at his lowest value also makes no sense. Loan at most for me but even that means we have to sign two stickers and not one
 
aeh1991 said:
If these reports are true, I genuinely believe there's a chance we sign two CFs.
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I'd be down with that. Alongside a new 10 and the sale of Garnacho. This is the worst attack in the last 40 years of the club. Let's be ruthless.
 
laughtersassassin said:
Selling him makes no sense. Means even when we buy a striker we will have no backup option.

Hojlund should be made backup. Also selling at his lowest value also makes no sense. Loan at most for me but even that means we have to sign two stickers and not one
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He’ll be worth even less if hes on the bench all of next season
 
aeh1991 said:
If these reports are true, I genuinely believe there's a chance we sign two CFs.
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Unless Zirkzee is going too (which I don't think he is) I don't see us buying two strikers. Otherwise we'll have three nines in a one striker system.
 
laughtersassassin said:
Selling him makes no sense. Means even when we buy a striker we will have no backup option.

Hojlund should be made backup. Also selling at his lowest value also makes no sense. Loan at most for me but even that means we have to sign two stickers and not one
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I think Zirkzee and Obi is more than serviceable backup up front.

If we receive an even decent offer for Hojlund this summer, we have to take it. I just cannot see a place for him in Amorim's setup.
 
laughtersassassin said:
Selling him makes no sense. Means even when we buy a striker we will have no backup option.

Hojlund should be made backup. Also selling at his lowest value also makes no sense. Loan at most for me but even that means we have to sign two stickers and not one
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I'd normally agree fully on this, and still at some point definitely am, especially after giving up on Elanga, and Hojlund scoring 16 goals in his first season, but is he really compatible with Amorim's complex approach ? Next season demands are getting significantly higher from our so called attacking line. Some serious calibrations to be made, if we want accomodate everyone, plus arriving ones.

Chances are he'll stay, mainly because Zirkzee is still, just like Hojlund searching for his optimal place and time on the pitch. Sir Jim might have say in some difficult decisions, but in the end, Amorim will start to be judged on who he's gambling on the pitch, this time.

In short, another interesting window ahead.
 
Trex said:
Unless Zirkzee is going too (which I don't think he is) I don't see us buying two strikers. Otherwise we'll have three nines in a one striker system.
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Except Zirkzee isn't a 9... he fits more in the 10 spot. Or at least if we get more runners around him. As a natural 9, he doesn't fit in at all.
 
As long as we bring in a quality first choice striker, I think we have some optionality. If we get an attractive offer, we should definitely take it, but if we are only offered something below his actual value, I wouldn't be against having him in the squad as a sub, for cup games, and so on. One of the biggest problems with Højlund is that he has to play all the time.
 
I think we should loan him. He's young and still developing, let him go to a decent German side and get game time. We could get close to or all of our money back if things turn out well.
 
If he’s going then surely Delap is his replacement and we’re signing a proper 9 as well. Can’t see us letting him leave otherwise.
 
JBG said:
Except Zirkzee isn't a 9... he fits more in the 10 spot. Or at least if we get more runners around him. As a natural 9, he doesn't fit in at all.
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He's not good enough as a 10 either, some nice touches and running but he doesn't hurt the opponent enough.
 
Trex said:
No indication at all from reports we'll be buying two strikers.
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Well no but if we’re letting our one and only centre forward leave, and we already don’t have enough, you’d expect us to wouldn’t you?
 
If we can get maybe 50% of what we paid for him then selling is a no brainer. His overall performances have improved slightly but his goal tally is absolutely woeful.
 
Trex said:
I think we should loan him. He's young and still developing, let him go to a decent German side and get game time. We could get close to or all of our money back if things turn out well.
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They’re Italian. A loan is likely to be the only offer on the table. That or a loan with an option to buy at the rate of a bag of broken spaghetti and a sell on clause.
 
Trex said:
He's not good enough as a 10 either, some nice touches and running but he doesn't hurt the opponent enough.
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I agree tbf, in a dream world we should replace both(Zirkzee and Højlund).
 
Redstain said:
It would be a ludicrous situation from INEOS if Rasmus is still in the squad after the summer window.

These reports of Napoli / Serie A are coming from reputable sources.
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Yes.
As per Berrada:
"Players must succeed in 1-2 years. Players staying for longer with poor performance will be deemed unacceptable."
 
2 man midfield said:
If he’s going then surely Delap is his replacement and we’re signing a proper 9 as well. Can’t see us letting him leave otherwise.
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I get the impression that Delap is the player we need Hojlund to be. If we managed to sell Hojlund for the price we pay for Delap then I'd say that would be a great move and we can still buy another more experienced striker.

I do like Hojlund and do feel that once he gets better service AND more confident that he can do ok but he drops deep far too much. He's put a lot of muscle on and filled out so needs to figure out a way to use his frame better.
 
nmm85 said:
I get the impression that Delap is the player we need Hojlund to be. If we managed to sell Hojlund for the price we pay for Delap then I'd say that would be a great move and we can still buy another more experienced striker.

I do like Hojlund and do feel that once he gets better service AND more confident that he can do ok but he drops deep far too much. He's put a lot of muscle on and filled out so needs to figure out a way to use his frame better.
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I think there’s a play in Hojlund somewhere, and if we could afford to send him on loan I’d do it. Unfortunately we’re not blessed with options though.
 
dejans said:
Yes.
As per Berrada:
"Players must succeed in 1-2 years. Players staying for longer with poor performance will be deemed unacceptable."
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Surely he'd have a year left then? As first season he was not poor by any means.

If we can use him as a makeweight for Lautoro, get it done, otherwise develop him - no reason he shouldn't improve through the next few years, CFs rarely hit their pomp until their mid twenties. We should really have 3 CFs minimum, 1 or 2 we think are high level and a younger player coming through.

What we need is a No1 striker at their peak, forget Delap, such an Ings or Mateta type signings, who is top level and realistic? It's literally only Lautoro who is a good age and is proven at international/CL level given Serie A can be a bit misleading in my opinion. No chance we get Isak, Alvarez, Kane etc. who we would have gone for if we were playing CL.
 
BuzzKillington said:
They’re Italian. A loan is likely to be the only offer on the table. That or a loan with an option to buy at the rate of a bag of broken spaghetti and a sell on clause.
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That's why I said we should loan him to a German club. He could attract EPL clubs in a year time.
 
2 man midfield said:
Well no but if we’re letting our one and only centre forward leave, and we already don’t have enough, you’d expect us to wouldn’t you?
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We have numbers for the nine role what he doesn't have is quality. Hojlund and Zirkzee are enough number wise, it's in quality they're lacking.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
Surely he'd have a year left then? As first season he was not poor by any means.
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He was poor in his first season, not sure what you are going on about. He had a purple patch in the PL for a short period but was not good overall. The excuses made were he needed time to develop. He massively regressed this season.

Berada also said 1-2 years not a gaurantee you get 2. Given this regime did not sign him, I very much doubt they will want to bet/risk their futures on his success
 
Cassidy said:
He was poor in his first season, not sure what you are going on about. He had a purple patch in the PL for a short period but was not good overall. The excuses made were he needed time to develop. He massively regressed this season.

Berada also said 1-2 years not a gaurantee you get 2. Given this regime did not sign him, I very much doubt they will want to bet/risk their futures on his success
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We just disagree then. I think there's promise there, recently with the midfield working better both he and Garnacho have looked better in my opinion. First season I think he did exceptionally well for a young guy coming in and playing that style of football in both the PL and CL.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
We just disagree then. I think there's promise there, recently with the midfield working better both he and Garnacho have looked better in my opinion. First season I think he did exceptionally well for a young guy coming in and playing that style of football in both the PL and CL.
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Im not saying there is not promise. There was promise post season 1, thats different from saying he was good or did not underperform. But sure we certainly don’t agree on season 1. I thought he showed some promise but underperformed generally
 
Having 10 league goals for one player at this stage wouldn't be great. That's what our combined front 3 of Garnacho, Zirksee and Holland have scored together so all 3 need to be seen out the door.
 
Ole'sgunnarwin said:
Having 10 league goals for one player at this stage wouldn't be great. That's what our combined front 3 of Garnacho, Zirksee and Holland have scored together so all 3 need to be seen out the door.
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Only one of those would actually generate any revenue though. The math on the others makes parting with them difficult in this window, Hojlund especially as we still owe so much of the original fee. I don't really anticipate a full sale of Zirkzee or Hojlund but you can do more fudging with PSR by loaning players as they still remain as assets on your books. In that context Italian links make sense as they are the masters of the loan with an Option deal and provided they cover all of his wages which are not that high it won't prevent us from signing someone else.
 
JBG said:


Only thing I could quickly find on this
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Thanks. It would be quite a telling quote if he actually said this, and one that could shed a bit of light on whether the likes of Hojlund, Zirkzee, and Onana will be with us next year.
 
Trex said:
We have numbers for the nine role what he doesn't have is quality. Hojlund and Zirkzee are enough number wise, it's in quality they're lacking.
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Zirkzee isn’t a 9 in this system though.
 
laughtersassassin said:
Selling him makes no sense. Means even when we buy a striker we will have no backup option.

Hojlund should be made backup. Also selling at his lowest value also makes no sense. Loan at most for me but even that means we have to sign two stickers and not one
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You know, if we sell him, we can still buy 2 strikers. Alternatively, Obi can still be promoted to be the backup option. Hojlund is just not good enough.
 
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