Raul Jimenez

Adam-Utd

Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid
Joined
Sep 10, 2010
Messages
39,954
He's a great player but he'd just be too expensive at his age.

We need to look for the next Jimenez, there's plenty of that type about.
 

fps

Full Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2018
Messages
5,478
I prefer this transfer to the Bruno one, he's the right age to be a back-up striker which we need.
Back up striker? He’s in the prime of his life, he is at his best, what is with people thinking late 20s is retirement age. Plus only one of him and Martial is lighting up the pl.
 

Art Vandelay

Full Member
Joined
Jan 29, 2015
Messages
5,729
Location
Northern Ireland
Back up striker? He’s in the prime of his life, he is at his best, what is with people thinking late 20s is retirement age. Plus only one of him and Martial is lighting up the pl.
Yeah people thinking Martial is good enough baffles me. He needs to be upgraded upon, you don't buy a back up for a player that's not producing. If we signed Jimenez it wouldn't be to back up Martial it would be to lead the line.
 

Brwned

Have you ever been in love before?
Joined
Apr 18, 2008
Messages
50,829
10 goals and 6 assists in 23 PL matches, plus 3 goals and 2 assists in 5 EL matches this season. And that is for a rather low scoring team.

Why is it a scattergun approach to buy a seasoned and PL-proven striker, when we are lacking desperately up front? Not only is he producing fine numbers, he also contributes as the focal point of Wolves attack, and can both drop deep to set up wingers and still has good presence in the box which would provide our wingers with an actual target to aim at for the first time since Lukaku left.

I don't see why it can't be seen as timely manner to bring a player in his prime years to impact the team right away. This is not close to being a Sanchez kind of signing.
This is the first season in his career he's had a 1 in 2 record, and the way he's been able to achieve that is by taking lots of shots. He doesn't get a huge amount of creativity at Wolves but he gets free reign to shoot on sight, only Salah and Rashford shoot more often this season. He wouldn't be afforded the same luxury here, he'd go back to being a great target man and a poor goal threat, because he's just not a clinical finisher. Would be completely in keeping with a scattergun approach IMO.
 

Sandikan

aka sex on the beach
Joined
Mar 14, 2011
Messages
52,710
He's a great player but he'd just be too expensive at his age.

We need to look for the next Jimenez, there's plenty of that type about.
This is exactly correct.
Once players have got to teams in the top 10 of the Premier league, it's generally too late as the fee will be colossal.
 

OverratedOpinion

Full Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2017
Messages
6,205
Everytime I watch him play (which admittedly is not very often) he looks brilliant, he occupies a back line so well and his technique seems great. I would love for us to sign him and I think he would be a huge success for us but Wolves would be stupid to sell him right now and they aren't stupid.
 

the chameleon

Full Member
Joined
May 20, 2012
Messages
916
Funny thing is we wouldn't be saying he would be too expensive in an alternate universe without the Glazers. In this world we wouldn't have any debt. And we would just blow club out of the water because of our financial strength. But in reality we have watch the pennies because that ugly inbred family has bound us with debt.
 

Bobski

Full Member
Joined
Sep 5, 2017
Messages
9,662
Class act this guy, could be brilliant in any set up. Gassed late on but his all round game is so good.1
 

VorZakone

What would Kenny G do?
Joined
May 9, 2013
Messages
32,619
Weird how it didn't work out for him at Benfica. He's actually decent.
 

Holters

Full Member
Joined
Sep 14, 2014
Messages
389
His hold-up play is on a completely different level than Martial's. Jimenez was the main reason Wolverhampton managed to create anything at all. Having a functional number 9 like him is crucial. Martial isn't the right striker for us. Really hope we cash in on him and replace him with a better and more suited striker.
 

Yagami

Good post resistant
Joined
Jan 27, 2013
Messages
13,472
His hold-up play is on a completely different level than Martial's. Jimenez was the main reason Wolverhampton managed to create anything at all. Having a functional number 9 like him is crucial. Martial isn't the right striker for us. Really hope we cash in on him and replace him with a better and more suited striker.
Nah, us having a midfield that was easy to walk through was why they managed to create stuff. Plus, they had midfielders capable of passing forwards.

There were a lot of times yesterday Martial held the ball up well. As usual when Rashford isn't playing, he didn't really have anyone to play off, though.
 

Thiagoal

New Member
Joined
Jul 8, 2013
Messages
2,565
Nah, us having a midfield that was easy to walk through was why they managed to create stuff. Plus, they had midfielders capable of passing forwards.

There were a lot of times yesterday Martial held the ball up well. As usual when Rashford isn't playing, he didn't really have anyone to play off, though.
What game were you watching? Every time the ball got played into Martial the defender out muscled him! The couple of occasions he managed to keep the ball he gave it away shortly after! Jimenez is on a totally different level- sadly!
 

charlenefan

Far less insightful than the other Charley
Joined
Aug 17, 2005
Messages
33,052
Very good, I'm just worried we don't have enough goals around him if we were to sign him.
Spot on, he's certainly in the same mould as Benzema and Firmino in terms of a striker who's main role in the team is to occupy the CB's and allow the wide attackers to flourish but we'd have to bring Sancho in on the RW to compliment the goals Rashford gets from the LW
 

Yagami

Good post resistant
Joined
Jan 27, 2013
Messages
13,472
What game were you watching? Every time the ball got played into Martial the defender out muscled him! The couple of occasions he managed to keep the ball he gave it away shortly after! Jimenez is on a totally different level- sadly!
That's just not true. Yes, he lost the ball a lot (pretty much terrible during the end of the game which was where most of his loose touches came from) but, the few times he did get the ball prior to his bad spell at the end, he was good at keeping hold of it.

The difference between an organised team and a team that's, well, not, was on show yesterday. When Raul held the ball up he had support and knew he could switch the ball to the flanks as he knew support was arriving. When Martial did, there just weren't any options. Or he was fouled.
 

Irrational.

Full Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2011
Messages
32,823
Location
LVG's notebook
This guy is way too good for Wolves. Their tactic is mostly to punt it up to him, and Jimenez makes it stick and brings others into play. Reminds me a lot of Drogba in terms of upper body strength, close control and being a nightmare for defenders as they don't know whether to push up with him or stay back.

Fantastic player.
 

zenith

Full Member
Joined
Apr 24, 2013
Messages
1,779
Flavour of the season and put in a decent shift against us, hence I'm not at all surprised that the caf has fallen in love with him.

Personally, I don't think he's what we need and certainly not the cost and age he's at. Would rather explore other options which are either not this expensive and preferably younger and can rotate with martial, given that a CF is hardly or first priority with a limited budget.
 

bucky

Full Member
Joined
Apr 5, 2011
Messages
9,572
Flavour of the season and put in a decent shift against us, hence I'm not at all surprised that the caf has fallen in love with him.

Personally, I don't think he's what we need and certainly not the cost and age he's at. Would rather explore other options which are either not this expensive and preferably younger and can rotate with martial, given that a CF is hardly or first priority with a limited budget.
Agreed.
 

ivaldo

Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?
Joined
Nov 15, 2012
Messages
28,699
Wolves have become massively reliant on him as of late. Swap him with Martial and we win comfortably yesterday.
 

Feed Me

I'm hungry
Joined
Apr 8, 2004
Messages
29,319
Location
Midlands, UK
Like Traore, Jimenez gets a lot of plaudits. And yet the guy never really seems to trouble United when we play. Wolves are one of the most overrated and defensively set up sides going.
 

-Supreme-

Full Member
Joined
Feb 2, 2018
Messages
2,438
Makes perfect sense, but I wonder how much he would cost? I'd say in the region of £25m given his age and current climate
 

sullydnl

Ross Kemp's caf ID
Joined
Sep 13, 2012
Messages
34,063
Very good player but would be very expensive, I'd have thought.
 

sullydnl

Ross Kemp's caf ID
Joined
Sep 13, 2012
Messages
34,063
Makes perfect sense, but I wonder how much he would cost? I'd say in the region of £25m given his age and current climate
I would expect him to cost a lot more than that. They signed him for £30m just last year, his contract isn't running out, he's in his prime and they have no need to sell.
 

Zoo

Full Member
Joined
Jul 21, 2010
Messages
29,716
Portuguese press linked Wolves with Benfica striker Carlos Vinicius today.

I don’t see Jimenez moving though, Wolves will be seeing us as a rival and have no need to sell.
 

USREDEVIL

Full Member
Joined
Aug 2, 2018
Messages
4,803
Location
California U.S.A.
Would be great for us, a proper 9. Werner would probably be preferable i guess but seems as though he's bound for Pool. Ighalo is a nice backup to have just in case. Really want Greenwood to get more games though.
 

Adam-Utd

Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid
Joined
Sep 10, 2010
Messages
39,954
Would be great for us, a proper 9. Werner would probably be preferable i guess but seems as though he's bound for Pool. Ighalo is a nice backup to have just in case. Really want Greenwood to get more games though.
Jiminez is better than Werner but I’m just not sure we’d get him being a rival and considering his age.
 

He'sRaldo

Full Member
Joined
Jan 10, 2019
Messages
3,198
His numbers outside this season aren't the best and he's getting on a bit in age. It's a bit of a gamble especially seeing as Wolves seems to be a team built with specialist players.
 

Garry Buck

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Dec 10, 2017
Messages
107
Don’t mind him as long as we don’t overpay. He is 29 after all and likely will be a rotation option only.
 

UNITED ACADEMY

New Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2018
Messages
13,127
Supports
Erik ten Hag
Makes more sense than Dembele.
The issue is that lot of people often see signing players are based on current ability but what about consider other factors. One of them is part of investment, Jimenez is 29 already, probably only has 3 years left in his locker, very unlikely we'll be able to sell with decent fees when his leg is gone and we were linked with him before January for 55m, probably will cost around that fees since Wolves spent around 35m on him. Clubs interested on Dembele & Haland not based on one factor in their ability to score alone but also they're still young and if there will be time player wants to leave, clubs can get some refund or may be profit from the sell.

If we are going to spend 55m or plus on 29 years old while we already have Martial, better make sure this 29 striker win us the league like RVP.
 

Macedonian Red

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Jan 3, 2019
Messages
306
This guy is pure class. Even numbers says he is at Martial level, he is not. He is better striker in this moment. Wolves are defensive team and even with that style, Jimenez has 39 goals and 18 assist last 2 seasons.

With Bruno, Pogba, Sancho, Rashford he will explode!
 

Posh Red

Full Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2013
Messages
3,438
Location
Peterborough, England
The issue is that lot of people often see signing players are based on current ability but what about consider other factors. One of them is part of investment, Jimenez is 29 already, probably only has 3 years left in his locker, very unlikely we'll be able to sell with decent fees when his leg is gone and we were linked with him before January for 55m, probably will cost around that fees since Wolves spent around 35m on him. Clubs interested on Dembele & Haland not based on one factor in their ability to score alone but also they're still young and if there will be time player wants to leave, clubs can get some refund or may be profit from the sell.

If we are going to spend 55m or plus on 29 years old while we already have Martial, better make sure this 29 striker win us the league like RVP.
Much agreed
 

Rozay

Master of Hindsight
Joined
Oct 22, 2012
Messages
27,025
Location
...
For the right price, he’s the right sort of profile I think. He’s approaching 30 now, but he is of course more than capable of delivering immediately for a few years too. Him competing with Martial for now is a good continuity plan, with Greenwood ready to step up in a couple of years. If Mason looks ready then, we can move one of Martial or Jimenez on, keep the other, and then hopefully push someone else up from the academy to be the third - perhaps Mejia or Hugill for example.