RAWK goes into Meltdown 19/20 Edition

Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by Pexbo, Jul 22, 2019.

  1. Oct 21, 2019

    NinjaFletch Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2009
    Messages:
    17,758
    Likewise Liverpool got away with Van Dijk deciding to arse slam James into a player (people will say he won the ball, but he could have easily done so without wiping out James, he was looking for the contact to show how much of a hard man he is), and then Matip hitting him equally as hard ages after the ball had gone. Neither were even given as a foul.
  2. Oct 21, 2019

    arthurka Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2010
    Messages:
    11,054
    Location:
    Rectum
    There is such a thin line with Kloppo and Co they are always good for a superscale meltdown somewhere along the line, it will be their downfall this season as well.
  3. Oct 21, 2019

    dwd Saturday Night Spies

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    10,280
    Location:
    Under soil heating.
    Here's hoping. I'm kind of looking forward to him complaining about having to go and play the World Club Cup, which is due to their own success.
  4. Oct 21, 2019

    Irrational. Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2011
    Messages:
    24,074
    Location:
    LVG's notebook
    The second one was Fabinho and I'd be surprised if James' nose isn't broken, but the point stands. Both utter pricks that had no intention but to wipe out a player that they were petrified of running at them.
  5. Oct 21, 2019

    arthurka Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2010
    Messages:
    11,054
    Location:
    Rectum
    More games and more pressure with the same squad will be hard on them.
  6. Oct 21, 2019

    FrankDrebin New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2019
    Messages:
    760
    Location:
    Police Squad
    What a drum-head.
  7. Oct 21, 2019

    GBBQ Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2012
    Messages:
    3,865
    Location:
    Ireland
    Was saying as much yesterday, They are on an unbeaten run stretching back however long, clear top of the league, United are narrowly avoiding the relegation zone with losses to the mighty Crystal palace and West Ham and yet they are still convinced there is some sort of conspiracy against them.
  8. Oct 21, 2019

    GBBQ Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2012
    Messages:
    3,865
    Location:
    Ireland
    Had a look and couldn't find it anywhere obvious. I find it hard to believe that something like that could be conclusively proven with statistics.

    Specific to yesterday's game; lots of refs let the game flow rather than picking up on every foul. Matip (Non-British, Non Caucasian) going through James (British Caucasian) wasn't penalised and it seems to be more Atkinson's approach of allowing things to play out rather than stop the match constantly over fiery tackles.
  9. Oct 21, 2019

    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2010
    Messages:
    59,357
    Location:
    Bigmouth Strikes Again
  10. Oct 21, 2019

    11101 Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2014
    Messages:
    9,781
    I reckon most clubs feel that way about him. Hes shocking, had we been playing Chelsea you know he would have called everything the other way.
  11. Oct 21, 2019

    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2010
    Messages:
    59,357
    Location:
    Bigmouth Strikes Again
    Oh yeah, he's dreadful alright.
  12. Oct 21, 2019

    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2013
    Messages:
    2,501
    :lol: - petition
  13. Oct 21, 2019

    Stookie Nurse bell end

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    6,991
    Location:
    West Yorkshire
    Feck em. I know it wasn’t a foul but I want more controversy whenever that lot play. I want everything to go against them. They’ve had it good for so long now it’s ridiculous. Bet they don’t talk about the soft pen against Leicester in the last minute or that off side winner against Chelsea. Plus every other decision and bit of luck that’s gone their way. The more controversial the better. Balls to em.
  14. Oct 21, 2019

    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2005
    Messages:
    20,936
    For years we accused them of being game raisers when it comes to our games with them, you can just tell it's eaten away at them these past 30 odd years and they've been waiting for this time to shout it back at us

    It's a bit like the Arsenal fans who cant wait to shift the Banter FC tag off of themselves

    You'd hope these rivals fan bases could come up with their own material :lol:
  15. Oct 21, 2019

    Enigma_87 You know who

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2008
    Messages:
    23,198
    What is the general consensus on the foul incident? Is it only me who thinks it's more of a dive?
  16. Oct 21, 2019

    FrankDrebin New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2019
    Messages:
    760
    Location:
    Police Squad
    Contact but he made a meal of it.
  17. Oct 21, 2019

    Stookie Nurse bell end

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    6,991
    Location:
    West Yorkshire
    He did, there was minimal contact. If it’s a non contact sport then it’s a foul all day. Lindelof did nothing wrong. Derrick Acorah made a right meal of it. If that’s in the penalty area then he’s booked for diving.
  18. Oct 21, 2019

    dwd Saturday Night Spies

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    10,280
    Location:
    Under soil heating.
    That and he did the classic holding the 'wrong' leg when he went down like his mate Mane a couple of weeks ago.
  19. Oct 21, 2019

    Dr. StrangeHate Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2013
    Messages:
    1,494
    But they are hating him because they think he fakes it. Even if you have only half an eye, you could see that he was absolutely smacked into several times yesterday. How can you hate a player for getting smacked?
  20. Oct 21, 2019

    Enigma_87 You know who

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2008
    Messages:
    23,198
    aye, so not just me then. I read today on many places that Pool are somehow hard done by with that decision.

    There was slight contact but thought he bent his knee on purpose so he can fall down after heavy first touch and McT rushing in.
  21. Oct 21, 2019

    dwd Saturday Night Spies

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    10,280
    Location:
    Under soil heating.
    On their usual day, the Mane goal stands, ours gets disallowed and Atkinson gives the pen in the dying minutes.
  22. Oct 21, 2019

    Irrational. Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2011
    Messages:
    24,074
    Location:
    LVG's notebook
    There's going to be some kind of furious petition/ shirt printing going on after this game.
  23. Oct 21, 2019

    Enigma_87 You know who

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2008
    Messages:
    23,198
    And Lindelof, sent off..
  24. Oct 21, 2019

    Pexbo has never watched Star Wars

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2009
    Messages:
    44,369
    Location:
    Brizzle
    No, they're using the faking it thing as a disingenuous stick to beat him with. They clearly rate him so they're comforting themselves with the idea he's a phoney.
  25. Oct 21, 2019

    JamesO New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2016
    Messages:
    140
    Location:
    Llanelli
    Supports:
    Liverpool
    https://tomkinstimes.com/2019/08/big-data-study-referees-are-biased-against-foreign-players/

    Here's the link to the article. Goes over the last 7 years of penalties awarded in the Prem.
  26. Oct 21, 2019

    big rons sovereign New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2015
    Messages:
    177
  27. Oct 21, 2019

    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2010
    Messages:
    59,357
    Location:
    Bigmouth Strikes Again
    Paul Tomkins, fearless fighter of racism:
    https://tomkinstimes.com/2011/12/suarez-is-not-a-racist/
  28. Oct 21, 2019

    Florida Man Cartoon expert and crap superhero

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2014
    Messages:
    10,300
    Location:
    Florida, man
  29. Oct 21, 2019

    GBBQ Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2012
    Messages:
    3,865
    Location:
    Ireland
    My head hurts from reading that. I mean, I should have stopped once he discounted handballs for being inconsistently awarded over the time period, or where he was arguing over whether Zaha should be considered British or Foreign, or where he started having a dig at united players (and even referenced it himself).

    Its far from an airtight study; there's quite a lot of assumptions in there (prime example being an expected amount of penalties being given or the fact he uses absolute figures for % of British versus Foreign even though the majority of those wont be directly involved in a penalty decision). Penalties are a small percentage of overall goals scored in that period (around 5-6%) and are never awarded at a consistent rate. Attacking teams will earn more penalties, struggling teams tend to concede more. Refs also aren't infallible and up until this season it was down to the ref or linesman being in the right position to identify all penalties. It was far from perfect and this is exactly why VAR came in.

    Mot saying refs don't have an unconcious bias, but this "study" does not prove anything.
  30. Oct 21, 2019

    Judge Red Don't Call Me Douglas

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    3,945
    It’s more a case of officials being biased towards England players than against foreigners. The ref doesn’t take into consideration that Origi was the player brought down, he takes into account that he’d have to deny Rashford a goal. The challenge might have been viewed differently if Martial had been the scorer.
  31. Oct 21, 2019

    Giggsyking Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2013
    Messages:
    2,296
    :D
  32. Oct 21, 2019

    Ramshock CAF Pilib De Brún Translator

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2007
    Messages:
    39,428
    Location:
    Swimming against a tide of idiots and spoofers
    Yes because buying Salah, Allisson and VVD took light years....kinell
  33. Oct 22, 2019

    Giggsyking Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2013
    Messages:
    2,296
    At least if you going to act injured,hold the right side:lol:

    [​IMG]
  34. Oct 22, 2019

    ScarleyUtd Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,446
    No I thought so too, he made a real meal of it, and it didn't seem to get picked up
  35. Oct 22, 2019

    Boneli New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2018
    Messages:
    42
    It’s good to see RAWK are self aware as ever, and fully onboard and supporting or agreeing with Jamie Carragher speaking out about racism, and admitting they were in the wrong with the t-shirts supporting Suarez after the Evra incident. You can always rely on them to be on the right side of an incident, and on message with general public opinion. Or not.
  36. Oct 22, 2019

    Sassy Colin Death or the gladioli!

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2010
    Messages:
    51,569
    Location:
    Aliens are in control of my tagline & location
    Classy
  37. Oct 22, 2019

    podurban2 Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2010
    Messages:
    5,086
    Location:
    Stockholm
    :lol:
  38. Oct 22, 2019

    tenpoless Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2014
    Messages:
    3,148
    Location:
    *Teleports behind you*
    Not the first time I saw this :lol: Seems like a habit among players which means the contact must be so soft that They didn't feel it.
  39. Oct 22, 2019

    12OunceEpilogue Full Member Scout

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2016
    Messages:
    8,590
    Location:
    Wigan
    He already has:



    but otherwise what a great point, top marks.
  40. Oct 22, 2019

    Rinnegan240 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2018
    Messages:
    44
    Wouldn't be Scousers if they never raised motions for a petition :lol: