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Just out of curiosity - is it 3 or 4 times in the last decade, Liverpool have ended ahead of us in the table ?
Good bless Ole for doing that. And LvG. And Jose.Just out of curiosity - is it 3 or 4 times in the last decade, Liverpool have ended ahead of us in the table ?
When did I say he did? I said it’s not racist to think someone looks like someone else.How the feck does Martial look like Eddie Murphy?
Doesn’t anyone feel slightly embarrassed seeing this thread given the current gulf between us?
You are missing something. That’s reaching. Saying a black person looks like another black person isn’t racist.Am I missing something or is the Eddie Murphy comment not just a tiny bit racist?
Exactly. Poor Rooney was called Shrek for years, is that racist towards humans or Ogres?You are missing something. That’s reaching. Saying a black person looks like another black person isn’t racist.
No one would bat an eyelid if a white player was referred to as a white celebrity.
Ok I just cannot see any resemblance whatsoever which is why it feels like a really odd comparison. Literally just the fact they are both black? If other people think they actually look alike then fair enough I’ve missed that.You are missing something. That’s reaching. Saying a black person looks like another black person isn’t racist.
No one would bat an eyelid if a white player was referred to as a white celebrity.
I can actually see the similarities other than the skin colour. I found it quite funny tbh. And I’m a person of colour.Ok I just cannot see any resemblance whatsoever which is why it feels like a really odd comparison. Literally just the fact they are both black? If other people think they actually look alike then fair enough I’ve missed that.
It really is odd. Like he was sat at home hoping and praying that the dream wasn’t over and then United take it out of their hands and he pours his heart out. Think it’s the fact it was at 10pm on a Thursday night almost immediately after the final whistle.The Salah tweet still makes me laugh. How have RAWK taken it? Such a bizarre post
yeah the stache is very Eddie MurphyAlways thought it was a reference to 80's Eddie due to his mustache.
Seeing as we finished 2nd behind City under Mourinho and Ole it must be 50%
Brilliant!Guys, it's perfectly normal to compare a black man to Eddie Murphy in Uruguay.
I was referring to RAWK saying he did.When did I say he did? I said it’s not racist to think someone looks like someone else.
Yeah, Martial has a very 80's RAW Eddie Murphy look going on.The Eddie Murphy reference is because of the moustache surely. Either that or the fact that he was clowning around like a comedian and trying to entertain us by making us laugh.
Well he's been impersonating a striker for a while now so he's got some skillsHow the feck does Martial look like Eddie Murphy?
You're right, no one batted an eyelid when a white ex-United player was compared to a green movie characterYou are missing something. That’s reaching. Saying a black person looks like another black person isn’t racist.
No one would bat an eyelid if a white player was referred to as a white celebrity.
In the ten seasons since Fergie’s retirement, Liverpool have finished above United five times - once under Rogers and four times under Klopp. Van Gaal (twice), Mourinho, Solskjaer and now ten Hag all managed to finish above Liverpool.Just out of curiosity - is it 3 or 4 times in the last decade, Liverpool have ended ahead of us in the table ?
Yup! Since we don't look like challenging for the CL exactly, it's nice to avoid the EL. Just let's hope we don't end up there again after the CL group stages.I'm more happy about avoiding Europa than about playing CL. Also happy it didn't go all the way to last day as that would be torture.
For me it's about avoiding the tearing effects on league form. Not worth it, especially since we've already won it. I enjoyed our 16/17 season in the EL because we won it, but unlike the CL it's not what we look to repeat.Suddenly the Europa League will have validation (FWIW, I always think it does, never get the snobbery).
Just to add to this, Fergie's overall head to head against Liverpool, from 86/87 to 12/13:In the ten seasons since Fergie’s retirement, Liverpool have finished above United five times - once under Rogers and four times under Klopp. Van Gaal (twice), Mourinho, Solskjaer and now ten Hag all managed to finish above Liverpool.
Our head to head is:
League - Liverpool 8 wins, United 6 wins, and 6 draws. Obviously they’ve racked up a considerable aggregate score with some big wins.
FA Cup - United 1 win.
Europa League - Liverpool 1 win, and 1 draw.
Total - 9 wins for Liverpool, 7 for United, and 7 draws.
We will just need to beat them 8 - 0 or it will be used against us for the next 20 yearsThe cope is incredible.
"Nobody will remember who qualified for the Champions League in 20 years time; the 7-0 will go down in history!"
Too early to say they're back on their classic boom and bust cycle. We're very much at the 'next season it'll be our year' moment.Playing in the Europa League is a potential season destroyer, especially during an already downward trajectory.
I've seen a few Liverpool fans here and there saying something along the lines of "no worries, we will just play the kids until the knockout stages", as to not interfere with domestic performances. But that's not quite how it works, which they will find out soon enough. They've been lucky to avoid the grind of Europa League for enough seasons so they've forgotten what it's actually like. Facht.
Without naming their whole squad, a few of their key players have already peaked. Their defence isn't solid anymore, but regardless it has usually been their attack that has given them an edge and thus kept them relevant or semi-relevant for too long. And whilst Trent is a big part of their attack, chances need finishing. Facht.
Now two of their successful front three have left, only Salah remains. And yes, they have already played a full season without Mané (albeit without Diaz for most of it, so we don't know how they would've managed) it really won't be the same as Salah - Firmino - Mané. Facht.
Also, Salah has been vital this season, evident by his statistical output, and actually watching him the times I've seen Liverpool play. Salah has that bit of extra. So if they don't invest properly to get the reinforcements needed, and Salah drops in form, they can become actually proper shite rather quickly…which would be delighting of course. Facht.
For now, it appears their cycle indeed is over. Facht.
Mood: Facht.
Yup! Since we don't look like challenging for the CL exactly, it's nice to avoid the EL. Just let's hope we don't end up there again after the CL group stages.
For me it's about avoiding the tearing effects on league form. Not worth it, especially since we've already won it. I enjoyed our 16/17 season in the EL because we won it, but unlike the CL it's not what we look to repeat.
Honestly, I'm over it already. Blowing a 12 point lead and finishing behind them in the league to lose a CL spot to them would have hurt more.We will just need to beat them 8 - 0 or it will be used against us for the next 20 years
Gerrard's last game as wellHonestly, I'm over it already. Blowing a 12 point lead and finishing behind them in the league to lose a CL spot to them would have hurt more.
They lost 6-1 to f**king Stoke in 2015, I doubt their fans even give a shit now.
Because it was Stoke, not Man Utd (or Everton). Doesn't matter how you think you're handling it, that 7-0 is gonna hurt for a long time. And if it doesn't you're not a real Utd fan.Honestly, I'm over it already. Blowing a 12 point lead and finishing behind them in the league to lose a CL spot to them would have hurt more.
They lost 6-1 to f**king Stoke in 2015, I doubt their fans even give a shit now.
My two cents on the Eddie Murphy thing.
Casual racism and unconscious racism still exists, as much as some of you want to deny it. Black people do often tend to get compared to each other even when they look nothing alike, the same with Asian people.
Many white people don't tend to compare two white people to each other, when they don't look alike, but do it quite often with other ethnic groups.
Even if the meaning behind it isn't malicious, it's still unconscious racism or casual racism.
Only when Sky and BT roll it out on a regular basis… that’s it. We move onto the next game, no point dwelling on what been and gone.Because it was Stoke, not Man Utd (or Everton). Doesn't matter how you think you're handling it, that 7-0 is gonna hurt for a long time. And if it doesn't you're not a real Utd fan.
Yeah it was shit but I'd rather CL than the 7up cup.Because it was Stoke, not Man Utd (or Everton). Doesn't matter how you think you're handling it, that 7-0 is gonna hurt for a long time. And if it doesn't you're not a real Utd fan.
One thing I've noticed about liverpool fans over the years is that they cannot think for themselves and rely on others to tell them how to respond to results. Therefor, thinking you are qualified to tell fans of other clubs if they are "real" fans is beyond hilariousAnd if it doesn't you're not a real Utd fan.
You are trying to introduce the 'you all look the same to white people argument', which is shameful, as that is not what was meant at all.My two cents on the Eddie Murphy thing.
Casual racism and unconscious racism still exists, as much as some of you want to deny it. Black people do often tend to get compared to each other even when they look nothing alike, the same with Asian people.
Many white people don't tend to compare two white people to each other, when they don't look alike, but do it quite often with other ethnic groups.
Even if the meaning behind it isn't malicious, it's still unconscious racism or casual racism.
Also 7-2 to Villa, as reigning champions too.Honestly, I'm over it already. Blowing a 12 point lead and finishing behind them in the league to lose a CL spot to them would have hurt more.
They lost 6-1 to f**king Stoke in 2015, I doubt their fans even give a shit now.