Rayan Cherki

Fortitude said:
Have wondered where this narrative he had a bad game came from. He was clean, tidy and constantly probing in a team without much ability to progress cohesively. It wasn't a performance for the ages, but it certainly wasn't bad, and with better players on the end of what he was providing, there would be a different tone to posts.

I think people were expecting to see prime Ronaldinho out there by the sound of things.
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This narrative came from unrealistic expectations. Some people were expecting the second coming of Zidane. Thought he had a good game and still had an impact without being spectacular. In a better team, with better players he could go up a couple of levels. Unfortunately we’re just not that team at the minute. I think he could be that ‘off the cuff’ player which could unlock a defence. In a team struggling for creativity he would be perfect for the 10 role but needs better players around him. Would love to see him here but has a better chance of succeeding in a more cohesive team.
 
Boy Wonder said:
This narrative came from unrealistic expectations. Some people were expecting the second coming of Zidane. Thought he had a good game and still had an impact without being spectacular. In a better team, with better players he could go up a couple of levels. Unfortunately we’re just not that team at the minute. I think he could be that ‘off the cuff’ player which could unlock a defence. In a team struggling for creativity he would be perfect for the 10 role but needs better players around him. Would love to see him here but has a better chance of succeeding in a more cohesive team.
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I get where you're coming from. But here’s the thing: adding Cherki to our squad could actually be part of building that more cohesive team. He doesn’t need to go elsewhere to thrive. In fact, having him here could be a big step toward making the team more creative and competitive. We’re not talking about needing everything perfect straight away, but adding players like Cherki is exactly what we need to move forward. With the right support around him, he could help elevate the whole squad and contribute to making us more cohesive. Sometimes, you have to start with the right pieces to build something great, and he could definitely be one of those.
 
It is a bit funny how his lack of intensity (which is a valid criticism overall) is such a big talking point for our fans when our best player has absolutely no pace and power himself.

Fernandes compensates with his ridiculous stamina, it looks to me Cherki makes up for his with his excellent ball carrying and take on ability
 
Can’t see him in England at all, way too far from his comfort zone. The style of play, the weather, the language barrier, the food etc. It’s sounds cliché but for some players it’s a clear issue and I do think he is one of them.

Could be wrong though.
 
There will be a lot of interest at that price. Only watched him once but his stats are good this season. Hard to judge if he’d cut it in the league but he seems like an intelligent footballer - some of his assists on YouTube are impressive.
For this price he would probably walk into one of our 10 roles currently, maybe bench warmer for a better squads.
I’d be happy with him and at this price we need these buys.
 
FortunaUtd said:
Cherki is quite clearly an immensely talented playmaker. Not sure though whether him and Bruno aren't a bit too similar to play in one starting 11.
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I cant think of anything that makes him more alike Bruno rather than someone like Odegaard. And if we need anything to compliment Bruno its another #10, like Odegaard
 
Shaqiri/Elliott esque level of squad player. With more scoop for an attacking improvement mainly shooting, scoring more. Transfer fee should reflect simillar deals. With added inflation Wilcox must negotiate at most 15+5mil hard to achieve bonuses.
 
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BalanceUnAutreJoint said:
Calling the best creator in football this season statistically speaking a Shaqiri/Elliott level player sounds kind of insane.
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Not much different to Elliott prior his big injury, playing in much harder division. Underlining numbers esp. defence contribution way more in favour of the Pool guy. Already settled in PL.

Dont think its an insane take that Cherki will also struggle as much as Elliott in hard nature of PL to reproduce his insanely productive French G+A stats. Wont get faster, wont get stronger as he already is (too) stocky built. Would smash it in five aside game, while fast Amad (and Elanga) are way more usefull for Premierleague footie.
 
Wouldn't his best position be the right sided 10 in amorim's formation where Bruno and Amad play? Obviously you could push Amad to RWB and Bruno back into the 2 man midfield. However a left sided 10 is the more pressing need and putting cherki there isn't playing to his strengths.

Very talented player regardless.
 
I'm both a fan and a sceptic. Always nervous of concerns about attitude and work-rate. But for £20m I'd take him. If Sancho had been £20m, no-one would care that it didn't work out for him here.

Cherki's a very good fit for that dual #10 position in our formation. And he would give us a second player capable of running our attacking game, the way currently only Bruno can. Put him next to Amad with the best striker we can manage to buy ahead and Bruno behind and you would hope to see a completely transformed attacking unit.
 
Brand Nubian said:
Not much different to Elliott prior his big injury, playing in much harder division. Underlining numbers esp. defence contribution way more in favour of the Pool guy. Already settled in PL.

Dont think its an insane take that Cherki will also struggle as much as Elliott in hard nature of PL to reproduce his insanely productive French G+A stats. Wont get faster, wont get stronger as he already is (too) stocky built. Would smash it in five aside game, while fast Amad (and Elanga) are way more usefull for Premierleague footie.
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Harvey Elliott was never at any point anywhere near being one of the best creators in Europe let alone the best one statistically.

It's quite a ridiculous take when Ligue 1 really has nothing to envy the PL in terms of of PnP. There's less intensity for sure and the pace is slower but it's not any less physical as fast as how fast or strong the players are. Might be even more so in fact and it's the league from which players translate their talents to the PL the easiest usually.
 
Just scored with a brilliant finish.

He's really having his breakout season and he'll defo be off in the summer. Hoperfully we're in the race.
 
DWelbz19 said:
It is a bit funny how his lack of intensity (which is a valid criticism overall) is such a big talking point for our fans when our best player has absolutely no pace and power himself.

Fernandes compensates with his ridiculous stamina, it looks to me Cherki makes up for his with his excellent ball carrying and take on ability
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The lack of pace in Bruno is greatly exaggerated. He’s no speedster, but he’s fine. Intensity isn’t about speed anyways. Bruno has plenty of intensity to his game. Dalot has plenty of speed but lacks intensity. As an example.
 
I worry he is priced so low, too. Something not right in my opinion. Like sancho etc.
 
dubplate warrior said:
We're going in for Cunha, unless someone else signs him, Cherki is not coming here.
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We need more than one "10" in the summer.

Mount, Bruno and Amad are the only 10's we have right now and I feel Bruno will continue playing a lot more in the midfield 2.
 
Giggsyking said:
He has some sort of a conditional release clause. Nobody knows exactly the details.
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It's a verbal agreement. Release clauses are illegal in France.
Lyon's owner Textor has however already shown he doesn't care much for it last January when he refused Dortmund's offer which met the fee reported.
Transfer news pages parroting that pricetag as an actual clause just don't bother searching a bit into it.
 
BalanceUnAutreJoint said:
It's a verbal agreement. Release clauses are illegal in France.
Lyon's owner Textor has however already shown he doesn't care much for it last January when he refused Dortmund's offer which met the fee reported.
Transfer news pages parroting that pricetag as an actual clause just don't bother searching a bit into it.
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Oh, that's sad, the fee is too good to refuse. But if Lyon's owner is backing on his words, that will send bad signals to young talents who can carry their business elsewhere.
 
BalanceUnAutreJoint said:
It's a verbal agreement. Release clauses are illegal in France.
Lyon's owner Textor has however already shown he doesn't care much for it last January when he refused Dortmund's offer which met the fee reported.
Transfer news pages parroting that pricetag as an actual clause just don't bother searching a bit into it.
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Maybe Chekri isn’t interested in going to Dortmund.
 
£20m seems like a bargain but really do not want the guy, think attitude and personality are just as important to utd right now as players with the right physical attributes and skills, we need to absolutely avoid toxic players irrespective of price tag, but then £20m ...... got to think though at £20m if true why won't everybody be in for him? and if they are I think he will choose not Utd especially if Amorim tells him his requirements on and off the pitch
 
Zed 101 said:
£20m seems like a bargain but really do not want the guy, think attitude and personality are just as important to utd right now as players with the right physical attributes and skills, we need to absolutely avoid toxic players irrespective of price tag, but then £20m ...... got to think though at £20m if true why won't everybody be in for him? and if they are I think he will choose not Utd especially if Amorim tells him his requirements on and off the pitch
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Take it you don't want Cunha either then
 
BalanceUnAutreJoint said:
It's a verbal agreement. Release clauses are illegal in France.
Lyon's owner Textor has however already shown he doesn't care much for it last January when he refused Dortmund's offer which met the fee reported.
Transfer news pages parroting that pricetag as an actual clause just don't bother searching a bit into it.
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That's it. As soon as you see someone mentioning a buyout clause for a player of a French club, you can know that they are not to be trusted.

Cherki had a verbal agreement to leave during the past two windows. Last summer, he was to be ooc at the end of season, and he had an average season, below the expectations. Last winter, it was more that the club had to shift a couple of big earners due to the critical state of the finances. From the moment Caqueret went to Como, the door slammed shut for Cherki who had no intention to move anyway.

Now, Cherki has 2 years (1+1 exactly) remaining on his contract, and he's been delivering on the pitch. The club still need some cash, especially if they fail to qualify for the UCL, so it may limit the price to reach an agreement for Cherki's transfer, but I don't think he'll be going for €25M only.
 
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