RBG passes away | Trump to nominate replacement soon
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RIP on more than one count.
Oh god no.Probably more meaningful than Scalia dying 4 years ago given that we're only 45 days out from the election.
It's pretty wild that all the most important people in the US (Supreme Court and Presidents) are often so old.
In Norway members of the Supreme Court are forcibly retired at 70.
In Norway members of the Supreme Court are forcibly retired at 70.
November is going to be a real shit show, even moreso now than before.
I wish my American friends well in the face of what is to come
I wish my American friends well in the face of what is to come
Kind of, but seemed pretty unlikely that she would make it another 4 years in any case. It mostly just became a lot more obvious.
RIP. Turtle face is licking his lips.
Hopefully the Dems planned for this - but history tells me they probably didnt.
RiP Ruth!
RiP Ruth!
Watch McConnell now try and force a nominee through in the remaining 45 days.
Another SC appointee for Donald
if they get someone in before novemeber they can effectively overturn the election result by validating/invalidating ballots.
Devastating news.
He already confirmed he'll do just that. When you have no shame, life is easier, apparently.
Only "good" thing here might be the Dem voters getting super hyped to vote Donnie out if he forces an appt. If he doesn't - he ll likely energize both.
He will try but it could backfire by hurting Trump in November.
Well, feck.
We will now see the fastest nomination / confirmation process ever.
We will now see the fastest nomination / confirmation process ever.
May he try after november? Or losing the election will make it impossible for him to appoint one?
I was going to take it easy tonight.
Nope.
I’ll be the guy over in the corner with a scotch bottle drying my tears with the constitution.
Nope.
I’ll be the guy over in the corner with a scotch bottle drying my tears with the constitution.
RIP, was a force of good.
As tragic as a death is, more tragic is that this locks down for good the Supreme Court. GOP will definitely get a new SCOTUS before January, which essentially means that even with the unreliable Roberts vote, they would still have 5 reliable votes there.
As long as the nomination won’t have controversies like Kavanaugh, it will get easily confirmed.
If Hillary has won, Dems would have had 6 SCOTUS (+ the occasional Roberts vote). Now they have 3. Let’s vote Green Party again, that helps the progressive cause.
As tragic as a death is, more tragic is that this locks down for good the Supreme Court. GOP will definitely get a new SCOTUS before January, which essentially means that even with the unreliable Roberts vote, they would still have 5 reliable votes there.
As long as the nomination won’t have controversies like Kavanaugh, it will get easily confirmed.
If Hillary has won, Dems would have had 6 SCOTUS (+ the occasional Roberts vote). Now they have 3. Let’s vote Green Party again, that helps the progressive cause.
It doesn’t even need to be in these 45 days. It can be confirmed even in mid January, even if they lose both the Senate and the presidency.
I have no doubt that they will get a judge confirmed.
My guess is Trump will try to nominate Amy Coney Barrett in a cynical attempt to galvanize religious nutters and women voters before the election.
In a way the Dems and Hillary in particular shot themselves in the foot too as is well known, but if there was ever a reason for the not progressive enough crowd to feel like they made arguably their biggest mistake as a voter ever - now would be the time to come to grips with that. But please far left people.. Continue to tell us how we should be idealists.
And there goes roe vs wade
Possibly.
As long as they don’t choose someone with controversy (which might make senators who are at risk of losing their seats not vote him, of course is a him, let’s not kid ourselves), they will get it confirmed. Essentially, an Alito or a Gorsuch and they are golden.
The only move for Dems is to expand the court at this stage if they win. The problem is - as you said - that if GOP confirms this judge, then winning might well not matter anymore.
US is dangerously close on going full autocratic.
I think we re just about there already. Today Trump announced that "patriotic education" initiative which includes changing the narrative on slavery in american history.
Nationalist education and re writing /erasing of negative history. Where have I heard that before...
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RIP, as if 2020 couldn't get any worse...
Is it really likely this will be pushed through? I cannot imagine Romney, Collins and Murkowski would vote for it?
Leave it till after Nov 3 to energize the votes, then forcing it lame duck even if Trump loses to ensure they get rid of Roe v Wade.
Yeah sure, that is gonna stop McConnell. Like he stopped blocking Obama’s nominee for the fear of losing the senate.
The only certainty this year is that this is gonna happen. It might happen after November though, when Collins and another one or two (who have already lost their seats) take one for the team and vote the nominee.
Not even Roberts can now save Roe vs Wade (and even more important stuff), and not that he was particularly interested about it.
I've dreaded this since Trump got elected. How hard would it have been for her to retire when she could have been easily replaced? She's one of the great justices, but her staying on has left us in an incredibly bad situation.
I can only hope Alito and Thomas aren't smart enough to learn this lesson.
I can only hope Alito and Thomas aren't smart enough to learn this lesson.
People are of course panicking far too soon. It's not even a sure thing every Senator would go along with Mcconnel. Too many Reps are self-interested. No legal experts are convinced. It's important to put pressure on Rep Senators atm.
RIP.
Fecker Trump will play the SC card now. And people are already salivating about overturning Roe vs Wade.
Feckin sad at so many levels.
Fecker Trump will play the SC card now. And people are already salivating about overturning Roe vs Wade.
Feckin sad at so many levels.
Come on. In election season, this is a damn good card to lose to infighting. Mitch will go nuclear and get a replacement before election.
Collins might after she loses. No idea what will happen with the other two, but they need only 50 votes with Pence giving the decisive one.
The only question is will they risk it before the election (and then SC give the election to Trump).
Murkowski just said she will not vote to replace RBG on SCOTUS until after Election Day.
How is it a good card in election season? If there's one way to guarantee a Democratic president and Congress in 2021, it's by forcing through a supreme court nominee.
Which means jack shit in a way.
Even if McConnell loses Romney, Collins, and Murkowski, he's got 51 votes with Pence casting the tie-breaking vote. Of the remaining 50 GOP senators, there's no chance any of them has an ounce of integrity to uphold McConnell's "rule" for themselves. None.
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