Glazers have not changed the clubs crest though.Yeah, no way you'd catch the Glazers doing something like that!
Football Club was removed in 1998.
Real Madrid's New Club Badge
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Football Club was removed in 1998.
I went into Asda the other day, and all I could see was food from Poland. I am being oppressed by Polish Zoroastrians.
It's only Muslims who are militant about this kind of thing afaik. I thought religions were supposed to convey ideals of tolerance, yet this is intolerance of Christianity..
All these generalisations when the only place you should lay any blame here is the club itself.
D'oh!
Why "classic Pogue" though?
Do I have a reputation for posting duplicate threads?
This and Serial in recent memory. More than 1 and it becomes classic.
I went into Iceland the other day and all they had was food from Iceland. It's getting out of control.
It's ridiculous. This country's going to the dogs in a Korean-made handcart. I can't even have an English passport!...ok, it's because I'm Welsh but that's not the point.
Don't care, but I imagine I would if I was Catholic Spanish Madrid fan.
Football should be separate from religion. It's one of the few things that unifies most people as it is, let's not start all this shit again.
Fwiw i don't think Madrid should have changed their badge. It would be bad enough to do so for religious reasons in the first place, but it's clear they're hoping to prophet* from it, rather than just being sensitive to something no-ones even complained about yet.
*couldn't resist.
Fwiw i don't think Madrid should have changed their badge. It would be bad enough to do so for religious reasons in the first place, but it's clear they're hoping to prophet* from it, rather than just being sensitive to something no-ones even complained about yet.
*couldn't resist.
Would you lot care if United dropped the devil from your crest due to concerns over offending people?
Great - Father Christmas with a knife. #againstmodernfootball
I would. I'd hate for the club to change itself to cater to people on a different continent to where the club is based. Hopefully it never comes to that.
If you think for one second they have some kind of empathy with the club's heritage which would stop them from doing exactly the same as Madrid in the same circumstances, you are a very deluded man.
Well we don't know that for sure. Could have been the sponsors telling them to take it off or the deal's off. But I do agree the buck stops with the club.
I'm not sure you're right. I'm no fan of the Glazers but they could have made a fortune over stadium naming rights, for example, but didn't. If something is part of your heritage there should be a line and Madrid have clearly gone over it here.
I don't, but I know they haven't changed our badge, so how can you try and somehow shift this onto the Glazers.
I'll never forgive the Lazers for putting that boat on our badge.
Oh damn, sorry, wrong one. This one was so we don't offend our shopping mall sponsor "Santa's Hohohideout".
Sorry, I just assumed that the implication in "That is a joke that a club would be willing to change their badge in order to appease a sponsor" was that our own club would not do likewise. If not then fine, carry on.I don't, but I know they haven't changed our badge, so how can you try and somehow shift this onto the Glazers.
This is just for the display of the logo in Abu Dhabi. Real Madrid are not changing their logo. Stop overreacting.
What does @Vato think of this?
How many non-sponsored, existing football grounds actually have? There's a lot less value in them than new grounds which people will actually use the sponsor's name.
Whatever the reasons they haven't gone ahead and done this, I'm pretty sure it's a lot more down to hard-nosed business decisions than any kind of sentimentality for the club's heritage. And this isn't a pop particularly at the Glazers, same goes for pretty much all modern football clubs.
I never claimed the Glazers were sentimental, it makes sense in terms of business too. Selling the family silver might make sense in the short term but it doesn't in the long run. That cross is part of the Spanish crown and the reason they're called Real Madrid – pretty integral to their heritage and therefore their 'brand'.
I would care, but I don't think that's a real relevant comparison. The little cross just sits on top of their logo, I've never noticed it before! The devil is central to the Manchester United brand. "Red Devils" etc. They are also activly playing on it with the Cassilero del Diablo sponsorship.
I'd never noticed either, but we're not Madrid fans and we don't live in such a religious country as Spain. I do also object to airbrushing history because of religious intolerance.
Yeah, I see your point - definitely. However, I was just saying that the comparison between removing that cross and removing our devil was a pretty far fetched one. I mean, Manchester United are famous for their devil - I don't think we can say that about Real and their catholic(?) connections(?). It's not the first thing that springs to mind, really.
Be interesting to see what a Madrid fan thinks of it. I think someone has been linked in to the thread.
Halal Madrid!
I would agree that this is roughly the reason it's not happened (yet!).
But that's a bit different to "If something is part of your heritage there should be a line". There is also a line related to long run financial interests and it just so happens to coincide with this one!
Tolerance? Afaik, Buddhism is the only religion that says to be tolerant. The others say convert that heathen at all costs.
Money please!Possibly, but that's because we have an Arabic logo:
Incredibly underrated post.
Why thank you. I have to say I've been diappointed with the response so far.
I don't get it.
Neither do I. Someone care to explain what happened in the Fulham match?