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I will probably skip Round 8 otherwise it just be my top 5 FM gamesJust realised I will have to skip round 7
I will probably skip Round 8 otherwise it just be my top 5 FM gamesJust realised I will have to skip round 7
3 FM Games, Half Life / Counter Strike and Worms.I will probably skip Round 8 otherwise it just be my top 5 FM games
Plenty, we just have to keep it secret.No love for the Commodore / Atari generation?
Switch is where it's at mate!Isnt Round 7 gonna be a bit shite? Do we even have 5 proper PS5 games so far?
Ah yes. Missed that. Yeah that's gonna be primarily a Switch round. I've never had it but I guess games like Hades should be considered as Switch games. If Silksong comes out by the time we reach there then the ultimate final can be between Hollow Knight and Silksong.Switch is where it's at mate!
Ah yes. Missed that. Yeah that's gonna be primarily a Switch round. I've never had it but I guess games like Hades should be considered as Switch games. If Silksong comes out by the time we reach there then the ultimate final can be between Hollow Knight and Silksong.
The lack of ISS DELUXE makes me wonder if any of you played football games prior to the PS One generation? It was absolutely phenomenal!!
I remember working in my dad's shop every weekend for like 2 months so he would finally buy me it. Come to think of it... my dad enforced child labour on me
I liked it how you could just sabotage the game by fouling the goalie if you were losing and being petulant.The lack of ISS DELUXE makes me wonder if any of you played football games prior to the PS One generation? It was absolutely phenomenal!!
I remember working in my dad's shop every weekend for like 2 months so he would finally buy me it. Come to think of it... my dad enforced child labour on me
Pardilla!!Sensi is the greatest!
And get a straight red!I liked it how you could just sabotage the game by fouling the goalie if you were losing and being petulant.
This.Sensi is the greatest!
I think a lot of us are around the same kind of age, and when I was 7 or 8 or whatever and playing my SNES it was very much playing what me and my mates had and not knowing any better (often games that were just bundled with the console). It wasn't until I was a couple of years older and playing the Playstation that I was actively trying to get the best games I'd heard about or whatever, and so I think the rounds coming up are going to be skewed much more towards the objectively better games.The lack of ISS DELUXE makes me wonder if any of you played football games prior to the PS One generation? It was absolutely phenomenal!!
That makes sense. I forget I'm an old man because I still behave like a tanagerI think a lot of us are around the same kind of age, and when I was 7 or 8 or whatever and playing my SNES it was very much playing what me and my mates had and not knowing any better (often games that were just bundled with the console). It wasn't until I was a couple of years older and playing the Playstation that I was actively trying to get the best games I'd heard about or whatever, and so I think the rounds coming up are going to be skewed much more towards the objectively better games.
I don't doubt that ISS was better than Fifa International Soccer, but I can only vote for what I had!
We would be friends as kids I'm sure of it!
- ISS Deluxe
- Samurai Showdown
- Killer Instinct
- Super Mario Cart
- Sonic
For sure! It's great to see others played the same gamesWe would be friends as kids I'm sure of it!
I loved KI on the SNES. I felt it was everything Mortal Kombat wanted to be. Shame Rare went to Microsoft as the new game looks good but I'm not buying an Xbox just for that.I only ever played Killer Instinct on N64 which I loved. Probably my favourite ever fighting game (either that or Soul Blade).
Football games were rubbish before International Superstar Soccer came out in 1995The lack of ISS DELUXE makes me wonder if any of you played football games prior to the PS One generation? It was absolutely phenomenal!!
I remember working in my dad's shop every weekend for like 2 months so he would finally buy me it. Come to think of it... my dad enforced child labour on me
Metal Gear Solid motherfecker!FF7, Ocarina of Time, or wrong answer.
Good post but I just disagree with that bolded bit because by that rule, nearly every fighting game will be excluded from your lists.Once again, I feel adding arcade ports bastardises things somewhat as they are not IP's of the systems so I'll do two lists.
Proper:
1. Super Metroid - SNES
2. Zelda - SNES
3. Chrono Trigger - SNES
4. Super Mario World - SNES
5. Streets Of Rage 2 - Megadrive
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Just because it's harder to just five as the industry diversifies and shows rapid genre growth
6. ISS Deluxe - SNES
7. Revenge of Shinobi - Megadrive
8. Super Tennis - SNES
9. Final Fantasy 3 - SNES
10. F-Zero - SNES
I feel even with ten, so many great games miss the cut (no Mario Kart or Super Ghouls & Ghosts in the top 10, let alone 5 might be seen as sacrilegious! Micro Machines, another top game) - reckon by this generation, you've got grounds for genre specific top 5's. SNES utterly dominant, I think.
Special mention for:
Street Fighter 2 - SNES perhaps the greatest feat of the era to have the best and most demanding game of the arcades in a 16-bit format. This was the most coveted game of the era upon release with the Japanese and American cartridges (60hz) selling for £100+ and shifting units of both Super Famicoms and the American SNES's in UK so people could play the best version of the port. A true feat to condense this.
It's probably the #1, but again, I think unique IP's per gen should always be considered above ports.
Re. Sega's machine: as opposed to the SNES, the Sega machine was more about plug and play. Less complex games, more arcadey titles, which were great fun in the short-term and exceptional for people who didn't see the big brother arcade iterations a lot of these titles were spin offs from. Games like Gunstar Heroes and Streets Of Rage 1/2 were superb titles if you couldn't or didn't get to play arcade games like Final Fight or Sunset Riders, Super Contra etc.
But unlike the SNES - whose top games remain timeless in terms of playability - the Sega console is more a place holder.
Btw. @Dirty Schwein that Wiki or wherever that included the Neo Geo is dead wrong! That's absolutely not part of this generation! More power than both these consoles combined 10 times over - games that cost £200 - £1000, each! Literal arcade power in the home on a machine only rich people could afford. It may have come out circa that time, but that, and it being a console, are its only similarities to the 16-bit era. I didn't even think for a second of adding its titles as they would literally go into any arcade round as that's what they were.
I think until the ports became literally indistinguishable, and could have been home versions put in arcades, the unique part of them having vastly superior (naturally) big brothers is important. There came a point where the only difference between the arcade and console was latency and issues revolving around it being online and not face-to-face - that’s where, to me, the ‘unique IP’ waters are murky with only the latest version of VF still having no console equivalent. It’s hard to even say modern fighters are in any way removed from console play except still being housed in cabinets in environments with zero distraction or creature comforts - even elite level tournaments are played on console now, which would have been unthinkable in previous generations when the technology was so clearly disparate.Good post but I just disagree with that bolded bit because by that rule, nearly every fighting game will be excluded from your lists.
The way the FGC has been over decades, these games always go arcade first. Even the latest Tekken game was in Japanese arcades before console release.
Basically my childhood there and it’s hard enough for this round with games that are going to miss out.Next round is going to be a damn hard one for rpg lovers. The golden age.
Suikoden 2, the legend of Dragoon, Breath of fire 3, Wild Arms, Castlevania sotn, Valkyrie Profile, Vagrant Story, Xenogears, Chrono Cross... And that's before taking into account the golden age of final fantasy. Gonna be hard to put anything other than rpgs on here.
But the question here is: is the lesser console port of Street Fighter 2 still better than most unique SNES IPs? To me it was for sure. I played that game so much and even now, I play whatever remake of it I can find on the latest consolesI think until the ports became literally indistinguishable, and could have been home versions put in arcades, the unique part of them having vastly superior (naturally) big brothers is important. There came a point where the only difference between the arcade and console was latency and issues revolving around it being online and not face-to-face - that’s where, to me, the ‘unique IP’ waters are murky with only the latest version of VF still having no console equivalent. It’s hard to even say modern fighters are in any way removed from console play except still being housed in cabinets in environments with zero distraction or creature comforts - even elite level tournaments are played on console now, which would have been unthinkable in previous generations when the technology was so clearly disparate.
For me, until you get to CvS2 on the Dreamcast, there’s just no way the lesser port should go over the unique IP’s as their category is wherever the superior version of the game comes from, as was initially intended by its creator. An example would be any Neo Geo MVS on an AVS system - the same game housed in two different systems, although calling it a home console is sus in the first place.
Firstly, I apologise for that but it would be much more difficult trying to figure out what game came out what year, especially as we have many users in different countries. It's much simpler to go down the generational route.To all those complaining about how hard it is to choose: think of PC gaming. In this thread, we're at the early-to-mid 90s now, which means Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Myst, Warcraft, Command and Conquer, System Shock, Civilization... apparently, all these legendary, genre-defining games and then everything from the next 30 years, too, should be squeezed into that single round, somehow. I mean, in the second half of the nineties - which I guess is fifth and sixth generations? fecking hate this generation rubbish, we really should just stick to release date but that's another discussion - will have Fallout, Thief, Half-Life, Diablo, Age of Empires, Baldur's Gate, Quake, Unreal, Starcraft, Dungeon Keeper...
Basically, the PC gaming round will be a bloodbath.
Never owned one, only played Sonic and Brian Lara at my cousin's place.The SNES bombardment is sickening. How many of you feckers never played a megadrive?
Hmm.. I guess my take here is that the feat with the game was condensing it into a cartridge for a home console at an affordable price (the CPS1 at that time would've cost you over £2500, understandably) and making a really fantastic port for people to play, or improve, away from the setting the game was made for. Like I said, it's all incorporated now, with the home user in mind, perhaps even over arcade players, which is why so much money and time is going into developing netcode and trying to get the GGPO model into as many homes as possible.But the question here is: is the lesser console port of Street Fighter 2 still better than most unique SNES IPs? To me it was for sure. I played that game so much and even now, I play whatever remake of it I can find on the latest consoles