I totally agree (even though I was watching the other game so cant comment on that Japan Spain decicison). Most VAR calls have been on point, including all those offside on freekicks that have denied a lot of goals, but with good reasons. It kills a bit of the hype of scoring a goal knowing it could be disallowed but it's better to have a fair result.
I was watching the game live and I was sure the ball was out and the Japan goal would not count. I was surprised when VAR decided the ball was in play. Only afterwards, when I saw the pictures, I understood it was the correct decision. VAR got it right.
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but he would have distracted the keeper (or at least should have, otherwise, as I think Brian Clough said, "what the hell is he doing there"?)
surely this shows that the ball was out or am I missing something? you can see the side of the net...Was this the closest margin in goal-line VAR history?
does the white bit not show that that part was on the line ?
The angle makes it look out, from above the highlighted part of the ball is clearly in. It's just the part that isn't touching the ground.
They 100 percent showed this angle though?
Am I being really dim (no need for some here to answer that)? what white bit? Totally honest question, not saying you are wrong or trying to start an argument. Am I looking in the wrong place/at wrong angle?
The right side of the ball is highlighted white.
Thanks , that what I meant highlighted white.
That’s out of playWas this the closest margin in goal-line VAR history?
I’m not even bothered that 1mm is on line with the very edge of a line.ah, I see. thanks. How weird because the ball looks well out and this would suggest the goal line is not level with the deadball line, which obviously can't be right. As ever, ITV, rather than wait for this and discuss it, decided it was more important to show a ninth repeat of Animals Do the Dumbest Things - or some such (shades of 1999). Would have been fun to see Souness and Gary Nev argue about it
No it isn't.That’s out of play
Imagine not getting a goal for that if it was between the posts.
No worries, it's probably the tightest line call ive ever seen, and the daylight between the ball and the line gives the illusion it's out. But as ever the entire ball needs to cross the line (not just the part on the grass), so it's in play at that highlighted part hasn't crossed the line.ah, I see. thanks. How weird because the ball looks well out and this would suggest the goal line is not level with the deadball line, which obviously can't be right. As ever, ITV, rather than wait for this and discuss it, decided it was more important to show a ninth repeat of Animals Do the Dumbest Things - or some such (shades of 1999). Would have been fun to see Souness and Gary Nev argue about it
But it's not.That’s out of play
Imagine not getting a goal for that if it was between the posts.
Exactly - It's clear that some people don't understand the rules of football. It's a bird's eye view including the curvature of the ball that decides if it's in or out so side angles showing daylight between the ball and line are irrelevant
I think it's confusing some people. It's not the part touching the ground but as you said it's the whole ball needs to be out. The old rule was the part that is touching but it has been changed for a long time now.
That’s out of play
Imagine not getting a goal for that if it was between the posts.
Yep! It's an incredible call and a credit to the tech they can use now.
At this stage I’m blaming the players making the runs
VAR has been shambles this tournament. Complete shambles. And refs think every time VAR call them even in situations they shouldnt call they need to change their decision. Uruguay - Portugal and Argentina - Poland pens spring to mind. One worse than the other.
Players don’t have to play on the shoulder, they should time it better. It’s ok pushing the boundaries when it was down to human error and you could still be rewarded for a bad run but it’s 2022. Time it better
Yeah but he had a perfectly normal run, as I said it was 2 or 3 milimetres at most on the imaginary line. Ref should have stayed with this decision with it being so close.
Close but still correct. Offside really is a black and white decision
But he doesn’t have to be relying on mm. take someone like a Cavani, I honestly can’t remember a run he made that resulted in VAR disallowing a goal. It is possible to adjust to VAR.
It's not really about being an expert to see the ball isn't 100% out of play, its basic and that's all there is to it. If we had a shot from above the ball, this conversation would die hilariously quickly.
That's what I'm saying.
Far enough, I thought you were saying it was out
Yeah it's wild how people look at pictures, even admit that a fraction of the ball still touches the line and still decide 'meh, it's out'
Yeah, all the while saying I dont care.
No, no, I see the logic why its in, cause a little fraction of the ball while its in air is over the line.Far enough, I thought you were saying it was out
This is where rules have to change. What possible advantages does the offside player gain from his fcuking ear being "offside"
For all the techonlogy line is actually on his arm, not the shoulder.
What am I missing here?
