I think it’s been a big improvement but tend to agree it feels it’s gone a little too far. Personally I’d have said the Bruno one was a very obvious foul and I suspect if the referee had looked at it again, he’d have given it. It definitely was the type of situation where I’d at least expect a small delay whilst they carefully considered it.
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Bruno didn't shield the ball well enough and it was just a strong tackle from the side. If he'd got his body round more, then yes, but it wasn't really from the back at all.
Not convinced by that as a penalty shout either. James is between Saka and the ball and their legs just tangle. Saka wasn't round him at all.
This. Ole needs a word. I love Bruno as much as the next guy, but his histrionics on the pitch annoys me.
I thought Saka was fouled myself. Would've made the game interesting.
To me it looks like Saka has the momentum to reach the ball, which James definitely does not. James steps inside to stop him and clips his leg. Looks a penalty to me, but obviously not a hill I'm willing to die on.
It's why I've got no issue with VAR not intervening in these specific cases.
If the ref had blown up and awarded a foul on Bruno, no one would have batted an eye. Likewise, if he'd awarded Saka a penalty the debate surrounding it would have been relatively short lived.
They both could have gone either way, and in instances like that I'm quite happy for VAR to leave it to the ref.
As I said earlier though, it does seem after the Euros that no decisions are being reviewed, which is obviously a stark contrast to last season when seemingly everything was reviewed.
Edit: I think maybe the Saka incident is one of those where the ref looks at the monitor, but I could see him sticking to his decision.
Bruno being a bit of a soft cnut doesn't mean it's not a freekick. Stephens barges into Bruno and then uses his arm to give the extra push, then he takes the ball. Just the way he barges in warrants a freekick, the clearly visible push just makes even more laughable that nothing is awarded. The first two screenshots are before Stephens even touches the ball.
It's shit refereeing.
It's shit refereeing.
Definitely a foul but does not alter the fact that Bruno was playing for it. The refs are going to judge things differently this season and so we need to be aware when making decisions. I won't blame Bruno for yesterday, second game of the season and all, but if it happens again then it would be squarely on him for not recognizing the rule change.
Arguably went against us last week, and went for us this week.
I think neither were fouls for what it's worth.
I think neither were fouls for what it's worth.
Touching a shin pad isn’t a foul and he doesn’t limp or fall until he sees the ref isnt blowing up
If you watch the spin of the ball, it is literal proof that Pogba touched the ball. Nobody can deny that (the ball is spinning towards Neves, which is physically impossible without it hitting Pogba’s foot).
I can still see an argument for it being a foul, but I’m not having anybody say that it didn’t hit Pogba’s foot.
I can still see an argument for it being a foul, but I’m not having anybody say that it didn’t hit Pogba’s foot.
Not a foul under the new rules imo, ball then man, not a lot of the ball but because he caught it high you can the kinda backspin on it and Pogba's foot goes over the top. Last season stone wall foul, this season not a foul. Its not reckless nor intentional nor out of control he just slides over the ball off his contact. Its a contact sport. Legit goal under the current interpretation.
Feck off. At most, 4 millimetres of Pogba's boot brushed off the tip of Neves' boot.
The slo-mo reaction of him continuing to play on, realising that the ball is going to Varane and then looking at the ref with a faux-pained expression says everything. Pathetic cheat.
The slo-mo reaction of him continuing to play on, realising that the ball is going to Varane and then looking at the ref with a faux-pained expression says everything. Pathetic cheat.
Complete non-issue.
You can clearly see Pogba move his shin pad. Still not a foul and a legit goal but he definitely catches his shin.
How didn't they notice James completely take out Trincao for AWB's goal-line clearance?
The Pogba challenge was fine, it wasn't a foul. Neither was the challenge on Bruno during the last game.
As SS points out above though, the two-footed challenge by James on Trincao was somehow missed and was similar to Xhaka the Hacker's effort that got him red-carded. The consistency still isn't there, unfortunately.
As SS points out above though, the two-footed challenge by James on Trincao was somehow missed and was similar to Xhaka the Hacker's effort that got him red-carded. The consistency still isn't there, unfortunately.
I didn't even notice this during the game, so I went looking for it. Was this looked at by VAR at all? Seems like a huge oversight, if not.
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Could it have been ignored because the contact took place over the end line?
They really are the people who were too cowardly to join the policeSo their big solution appears to be less transparency. Got to love the refs in this country.
Doesn't matter, if the offence takes place within the width of the penalty area it can be a penalty even if its out of play.
I'm not really clear on the rules. Does it matter that it may have been an inch beyond the line? It doesn't even look like it was from this clip, but say that it was, does the foul not count?
I burst out laughing, what a tackle to make in your own box and you can see that James knows he fecked up as well
To be fair I think it looks like he slipped, but that's a definite pen..."They didn't see it" is the only possible explanation for the Trincao/James incident not being given.
I can absolutely see that for the on-pitch ref but the VAR dudes not seeing it? That's insane.
I can absolutely see that for the on-pitch ref but the VAR dudes not seeing it? That's insane.
The only thing in its favour is that those sort of incidents rarely get called as a pen for whatever inane reason.
But having said that, VAR should be here to ensure that those sort of incidents are pens.
It was weird that not a single Wolves player appealed, including Trincao himself.
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Petition to stop Anthony Taylor from reffing Chelsea games is nearly at 50K.
I love the pettiness of football fans sometimes.
Petition to stop Anthony Taylor from reffing Chelsea games is nearly at 50K.
I love the pettiness of football fans sometimes.
Why? I didn't see him making any bad decisions. Was it for the other games?
Yeah. There's a long history of him giving (what Chelsea fans consider) unfair decisions against us.
For example he gave this as a foul against Chelsea until VAR made him reverse the call.
I can't remember it exactly but did it lead to a Wolves chance and therefore advantage was played?
Refs definitely hold grudges. Mike Dean loves to side with the underdog and hates teams with vocal players. Jon Moss hates teams that make him run. Twatkinson hates us over many years. Maybe Anthony Taylor has taken a dislike to some of your players or something.
So last night France vs Bosnia, we had intervention to check if the ball crossed the line for goal France apparently scored, but they didn't use goal line technology, but for some reason they used VAR and allowed the goal. It's not clear by any means, but I can't really understand the inconsistency in using the technology. Why not use goal line technology, Strasbourg stadium surely has goal line technology, why not use it?
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They don't use goal line technology so the fall back option is to use VAR. Not sure what the reasons are though.
Recall Ronaldo scored for Portugal in qualifiers earlier this but the ref didn't give it even though it clearly crossed the line on replays. For those set of qualifiers neither goal line technology or VAR were in use.
Yeah, I am guessing they don't use it in qualifiers because not all stadiums have it, but what's the reasoning for not using it at the stadiums that have it? I don't see the logic, no one is using the advantage, it just helps out referees. But I guess it doesn't help bigger teams like France, etc., that 10-20 years later still get decisions like these given for them.
They’ve made VAR a lot better this season by the clever tweak of not actually using VAR. Now they need to go one step further and give up any pretence of using VAR. Then it will finally be perfected.
Pogba yellow was actually one of the worst decisions I've seen in a long time. How!?!
Can you appeal a yellow?
Can you appeal a yellow?
How the hell was Sancho shot not reviewed? It was a clear handball - same one given in the Crystal Palace game - hand was way out and blocked shot on target too.
Never a red in the Leeds Liverpool game. Have they gone too far the other way and are just not using VAR when they should be doing?
Snappy wrong decisions are better than making a correct decision by taking a little longer. Is this what VAR is being praised for this season?
feck VAR. That second one was a foul.