Refs & VAR 2021/22

[Swedish_Plumber]

Mic them up and the amount of shite decisions will miraculously go down. Everyone involved need to be held accountable.

Not just because of today but the amount of shite that’s gone on since it’s implementation is staggering. They give a decision like that today but allow more substantial fouls go?

 

[Rob]

Yeah, VAR is still terrible. Wish they’d realize that no one likes it and that it makes football incredibly frustrating to watch and drop it.

 

[charlenefan]

I mean I'll call it the worst VAR decision I can remember but it's the combined idiot of who's on VAR and Kevin Friend who's to blame rather than the technology itself

 

[Amar__]

I think whoever is on VAR should have to explain decisions like that. What’s the logic behind it, interpretation of the rules etc.

It was Friend who decided it. He is either corrupt, or incompetent to refereee a football match if that's a penalty for him. It's pretty simple.

Anyone blaming technology for this is obviously very stupid. Technology isn't officiating football match and making decisions.

 

[Berbaclass]

I don’t see the outrage I think it’s a penalty.

 

[Robindinho]

Funny how the first angle wasn't shown either - when you clearly saw Jota step in to the keeper.

 

[VivaRonaldo85]

You would think two qualified premier league referees would be having a simple conversation along the lines of, “has the attacker lost control of the ball (yes), has the attacker subsequently moved in a false direction knowing the ball is gone (yes), has the goalkeeper made a false movement towards the ball or player (no)”. The on field ref then just looks at a ridiculous angle with no in play context and is compelled to give it with the var putting doubt in his mind when it was clear and obvious to the on field ref it wasn’t a penalty first time round. The application of the var system and it’s users are not fit for purpose!

 

[WeePat]

And they kept repeating the worst possible angle to the ref on the screen which convinced him it was a penalty. I swear they wanted to make it look like it was entirely keeper's fault.

Yeah I noticed that too.

 

[VivaRonaldo85]

It was Friend who decided it. He is either corrupt, or incompetent to refereee a football match if that's a penalty for him. It's pretty simple.

Anyone blaming technology for this is obviously very stupid. Technology isn't officiating football match and making decisions.

But Friend got the decision right live. It’s the fool watching silly angles on a screen somewhere that has effectively instigated a change of on field decision.

 

[Shipperley]

I don’t see the outrage I think it’s a penalty.

Thanks for the input Kevin

 

[Thunderhead]

Ridiculously bad decision

 

[Freak]

A corrupt decision if I ever saw one.

 

[MonkeysMagic]

And they its technology that has ruined football...no, it was always the idiotic officiating that ruins football!

 

[arthurka]

I would like to hear Klopp's take on this he always has a very good perspective on these things.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Anyone got a replay?

 

[Sied]

I don’t see the outrage I think it’s a penalty.

How

 

[arnie_ni]

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Mental that's given

 

[arnie_ni]

Also seeing this.

How is this not offside, when he tries to win a header from an offside position and forces the last defender to challenge him and not the player free at the back?

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[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

But the good thing is the ref will give an interview post game and explain his decision. Then the head of the PL referees will consider the decision and decide if they should ref next week.

And United will win the league this season… and I’ll have an affair with Ana de Armas… and then I’ll win the lottery, three weeks in succession.

 

[Ekkie Thump]

Jota literally jumps to his right to initiate contact:

 

[Bobski]

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Mental that's given

Was that given for the contact with the keeper or the little flick the defender tries.

Neither is a pen but if it is the first then my goodness, that might be the softest pen I have ever seen.

 

[One Night Only]

It was Friend who decided it. He is either corrupt, or incompetent to refereee a football match if that's a penalty for him. It's pretty simple.

Anyone blaming technology for this is obviously very stupid. Technology isn't officiating football match and making decisions.

Those in the VAR cabin could have decided it. There's 3 of them isn't there?

 

[Mb194dc]

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Strange one, the keeper is allowed his space on the pitch. What's he supposed to do, dive out of the way?

VAR made a mistake in who moved in to who?

 

[arnie_ni]

Was that given for the contact with the keeper or the little flick the defender tries.

Neither is a pen but if it is the first then my goodness, that might be the softest pen I have ever seen.

The keeper from what I'm seeing online.

No on really knows because we can't hear their coveraations. Such an easy fix

 

[WeePat]

Also seeing this.

How is this not offside, when he tries to win a header from an offside position and forces the last defender to challenge him and not the player free at the back?

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That should have been offside too. Palace have been robbed. Farcical game.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Refs are crap, what else is new.

Nothing will beat that penalty Newcastle weren't given the other week for Ederson actually wiping someone out though. That was definitely the worst.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Jota literally jumps to his right to initiate contact:

Blimey that’s a shocking decision. The refs in this country are a joke

 

[TheReligion]

When the ref goes to the monitor why do they always replay the decision in some bizarre sped up jerky footage?

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Also seeing this.

How is this not offside, when he tries to win a header from an offside position and forces the last defender to challenge him and not the player free at the back?

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Haven’t seen this but surely this is equally scandalous.

 

[arnie_ni]

Refs are crap, what else is new.

Nothing will beat that penalty Newcastle weren't given the other week for Ederson actually wiping someone out though. That was definitely the worst.

That's the maddening thing. That one wasn't given and this one was.

Ederson wiped out the Newcastle player and jota jumps into the keeper.

If you showed those two clips to a million people for the first time and asked them to answer which one was given as a pen you'd have a million incorrect answers.

 

[Shipperley]

The second goal annoyed me even more than the penalty tbh, they’d be pouring over it looking for a reason to disallow it if we score that

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

I would like to hear Klopp's take on this he always has a very good perspective on these things.

On the third goal: "It was massive really. I didn't see it back but I don't think I have to because we thought it was and the referee did”

 

[arnie_ni]

Haven’t seen this but surely this is equally scandalous.

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Apparently he didn't impact the defender who jumps with firmino to make sure he doesn't have a free header on goal leaving the eventual goal scorer wide open.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Tear up the rule book. Sack the lot of these refs and start again. This is one of the richest industries in the world and we just have to put up with absolute incompetence. Part of me thinks the Premier League / FA enjoy the drama to add to the discussion and controversy. Complete farce.

 

[arnie_ni]

Refs are crap, what else is new.

Nothing will beat that penalty Newcastle weren't given the other week for Ederson actually wiping someone out though. That was definitely the worst.

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Apparently both these incidents had craig pawson on VAR which makes it even worse

 

[Mb194dc]

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Apparently he didn't impact the defender who jumps with firmino to make sure he doesn't have a free header on goal leaving the eventual goal scorer wide open.

Just watched it. Should be offside as soon as he jumps to try and play the ball.

 

[arnie_ni]

Just watched it. Should be offside as soon as he jumps to try and play the ball.

Exactly. The referring in this country is a disaster.

 

[Josep Dowling]

Tear up the rule book. Sack the lot of these refs and start again. This is one of the richest industries in the world and we just have to put up with absolute incompetence. Part of me thinks the Premier League / FA enjoy the drama to add to the discussion and controversy. Complete farce.

I think this as well because I can’t understand how some of these refs get away with doing such a poor job. 95% of football fans would say that’s never a penalty, surely a qualified ref should know that isn’t a penalty as well. Wouldn’t surprise me if they want Liverpool to win their games in hand to create some sign of a title race.

 

[arthurka]

On the third goal: "It was massive really. I didn't see it back but I don't think I have to because we thought it was and the referee did”

Yeah something like that.

 

[Longshanks]

Wow that penalty decision is something else. Jota 100% plays for it, its why he has an air shot because he slows down and moves towards the keeper to make sure there is contact.

Whats truly remarkable is the original decision was correct and they have somehow decided to overturn it. Based on what? Nobody knows didn't realise if you have an air kick lose control of the ball and run into an opposition player that is now classed as a foul. What on earth is the keeper meant to do there? Stay on his line and allow jota time a space to bring it down and pick his spot, or anticipate that jota would have an air kick and collect the ball before it goes out of play!?