A brilliant post below by @Russky14
Well where do I start
I have supported Utd since 1976, so know what it is like to go through years of a few cups with Scouserpool winning all before them, and it’s probably that reversal in fortunes (back to the future) that is becoming a nightmare on elm street. Well it should be - if you have any feeling about the club with the team down East Lancs Road looking to dominate for a few years.
Don't get me wrong domination as we had for 25 years & the Scousers before that will not occur again to that extent. The prats that are Ex pro pundits were calling Man City creating a dynasty for the next 10 years (M Keown words last April) are complete drivel. Domination now is probably 3 years, success of one club will be interjected by other clubs throwing money at it too, so no domination.
However, seeing our closest rivals (forget City) looking like equaling our title haul over the next 3 years makes me really angry in the context of the complete mis-management of our club in the years proceeding and after Klopp's arrival. Its beggar’s belief. The whole club is rotten and we can see the gradual impact of the Glazers ownership under the Stewardship of Woodward = downward.
We now have a manager who is being given so much rope that it deifies logic. The reason he can get away with it is because he is a leg-end. Look at other clubs changing quickfire.
However, the real reason is that the incompetence of the current Regime led by Colonel Gaddafi and his Lieutenant Matt Judge has led us to a situation where we have declined when more money has come into the game and bad decisions since 2009 in both structure, purchases and management have ultimately led to where we are now OGS (24/12 "we are behind on development") FFS. Yes since 2009 look at the buys mostly pap apart from Van Persie & that was a 12-month Fergie Elastoplast.
As for the fans we are in a prescription med haze. A big chunk are on diazepam from the supportive nonsense I can see on threads within this site. Sorry its needs to be said. OGS is no Fergie. The latter rocked up after breaking the Old Firm monoploy plus the CWC to boot. Klopp rocked up with success too. On the other hand we went for has beens in Jose & LVG.
1) in support of OGS under this re-build plan.
Re-build plan
The only reason it’s a re=build plan over 3 years is because of Gaddafi incompetent decisions in wasting money, quite simply a power crazed tax accountant who thinks he is a business man & a DOF. Very few accountants are real business men - why because I am an accountant too and I am not a businessman. Remember he took over the Utd commercial juggernaut. All he has done is create official partners syndrome "official partner to anaerobic digester industry" FFS.
2) babbling on about things like "Mid-season assessment and your expectations"
FFS it was over before we kicked a ball. Next season is over before we have kicked a ball. Forget any cups this season too. That shambolic & clueless team selection by OGS v Arsenal followed by not even a real shot in anger shows where we are. We only beat Burnley & Newcastle because of defensive blunders!!!!!! Wolves next = defeat the way they are generally playing they will counter attack us end of. City up next in the Caraboa = defeat. Do not delude yourselves if you have any sense and care. You should be very concerned - very.
The L/T "re-build plan" is down to finances. We are going to have c 70m less in revenue this year than last & Woody needs to balance the books for the Adams family dividends, so that means less convertible free cashflow due to reduced margins = less capital investment, whether facilities or players.
Get real the tax accountant is re-aligning budgetary expectations of dept managers in the business (incl OGS then again, he was hired on some basis that aligns with this). It’s the kind of shite that I do. Its good business management, but hey we are the famous "Manchester United the biggest club on the planet". Urm the way we are heading with a dysfunctional Regime the latter phrase is just like the legendary Phoenix - in the ashes.
3) "how do we break down sides"
This youth thing is just buying the owners and Woody time with our amateur hypnotist at the helm OGS. "This is what we do at Utd" after PSG. Do what - we got lucky!
Look at Klopp - just gone and bought a Jap player from Salzburg. Their youth system is worse than ours. Yes "Terence Trent Alexander Arnold Darby" has come through, but is there anything else going to come their "wishing well" (sorry could not reset it) err no. He's just adding to the squad and at some point, they will need to spend big, when their revenue/margin stream is increasing as ours falls. Basically, it producing very little. It’s the same at City. The only club with real breakthrough talent is Chelski but they have been buying parents our for over 10 years (like we did). Out of our youngster s I can only see Greenwood, maybe Williams and ANO making it at our club & even then they are no class of 92. Football has changed.
So,
REGIME CHANGE
This needs to be done visibly & vocally at home and away matches (not stunts like banners on the end of a plane). Very large visible banners and a big chunk of the fans in the ground consistently making their voices heard. not just a couple of k we need around 15 to 20k. They need to be made uncomfortable by the vocal intent. So how do you do this?
Look, my own issue is that I am based in Newcastle and have little opportunity to make home games but I am as red and passionate about Utd as any 30yr season ticket holder believe me. So, who on here go to games and are willing to start a something that will put pressure on the Adams family & Colonel Gadhafi = with the net result of out for both / a dilution in their control with Ed out of football matters?
This requires both Social media and old school leafleting etc. etc. Getting leaflets printed dropping these in at pubs pre-match, stirring up a rhetoric similar to the Farage & UKIP movement resulting in Brexit. It can be done, but somewhere here there are many people who want the same but it’s about coordinating this and getting sorry "the sheep to follow" nowt will happen. You need to create traction.
This is more about supporting the team. Teams come and go. This is about the famous "Manchester United the biggest club on the planet". Do we want to be the next Milan? No
Are we happy to see the lucky Scousers "yes there were dead & buried 7 years back" but with some executive insight via FSG and a huge slice of luck re-timing (Klopp & some other aspects), they may dominate? No.
All the other threads on here are absolutely nonsensical sorry, just rant wagons and worry about the now. Get a grip fellow supporter and let’s start something. Look at what Greta Thunberg has managed to do - a 12-year-old with Asperger’s FFS.
So, my first request and sorry Mr. Admin man on here. Rules are rules but as an accountant you need to sometimes bend these, I need someone on here to start a thread entitled "REGIME CHANGE" and then allow me with my paltry 60+ posts to get this on it. Who is willing to do this? Who is also willing to constructively create a movement both physical and on-line to get this seriously moving within a relatively short timeframe? This needs planning but that re plenty out there with both intelligence and passion who can make this work.
Up to you because we are all being led down a path of delusion orchestrated by the Executive at the top and with Ole doing, he his "look into my eyes my eyes not round eyes. 1 2 3 you are now back in the room".
We need a movement to get these greedy cretins out of our club. They either start spending their own cash = no, or the parasites feck off. Let’s get some consensus down as to mode of delivery and the messages that are needed to get across. Let’s deal in objectivity and rationale feeling not hysterical bull carp or crack pot ideas.
So, who is Spartacus or Greta to get this rolling?
Well where do I start
I have supported Utd since 1976, so know what it is like to go through years of a few cups with Scouserpool winning all before them, and it’s probably that reversal in fortunes (back to the future) that is becoming a nightmare on elm street. Well it should be - if you have any feeling about the club with the team down East Lancs Road looking to dominate for a few years.
Don't get me wrong domination as we had for 25 years & the Scousers before that will not occur again to that extent. The prats that are Ex pro pundits were calling Man City creating a dynasty for the next 10 years (M Keown words last April) are complete drivel. Domination now is probably 3 years, success of one club will be interjected by other clubs throwing money at it too, so no domination.
However, seeing our closest rivals (forget City) looking like equaling our title haul over the next 3 years makes me really angry in the context of the complete mis-management of our club in the years proceeding and after Klopp's arrival. Its beggar’s belief. The whole club is rotten and we can see the gradual impact of the Glazers ownership under the Stewardship of Woodward = downward.
We now have a manager who is being given so much rope that it deifies logic. The reason he can get away with it is because he is a leg-end. Look at other clubs changing quickfire.
However, the real reason is that the incompetence of the current Regime led by Colonel Gaddafi and his Lieutenant Matt Judge has led us to a situation where we have declined when more money has come into the game and bad decisions since 2009 in both structure, purchases and management have ultimately led to where we are now OGS (24/12 "we are behind on development") FFS. Yes since 2009 look at the buys mostly pap apart from Van Persie & that was a 12-month Fergie Elastoplast.
As for the fans we are in a prescription med haze. A big chunk are on diazepam from the supportive nonsense I can see on threads within this site. Sorry its needs to be said. OGS is no Fergie. The latter rocked up after breaking the Old Firm monoploy plus the CWC to boot. Klopp rocked up with success too. On the other hand we went for has beens in Jose & LVG.
1) in support of OGS under this re-build plan.
Re-build plan
The only reason it’s a re=build plan over 3 years is because of Gaddafi incompetent decisions in wasting money, quite simply a power crazed tax accountant who thinks he is a business man & a DOF. Very few accountants are real business men - why because I am an accountant too and I am not a businessman. Remember he took over the Utd commercial juggernaut. All he has done is create official partners syndrome "official partner to anaerobic digester industry" FFS.
2) babbling on about things like "Mid-season assessment and your expectations"
FFS it was over before we kicked a ball. Next season is over before we have kicked a ball. Forget any cups this season too. That shambolic & clueless team selection by OGS v Arsenal followed by not even a real shot in anger shows where we are. We only beat Burnley & Newcastle because of defensive blunders!!!!!! Wolves next = defeat the way they are generally playing they will counter attack us end of. City up next in the Caraboa = defeat. Do not delude yourselves if you have any sense and care. You should be very concerned - very.
The L/T "re-build plan" is down to finances. We are going to have c 70m less in revenue this year than last & Woody needs to balance the books for the Adams family dividends, so that means less convertible free cashflow due to reduced margins = less capital investment, whether facilities or players.
Get real the tax accountant is re-aligning budgetary expectations of dept managers in the business (incl OGS then again, he was hired on some basis that aligns with this). It’s the kind of shite that I do. Its good business management, but hey we are the famous "Manchester United the biggest club on the planet". Urm the way we are heading with a dysfunctional Regime the latter phrase is just like the legendary Phoenix - in the ashes.
3) "how do we break down sides"
This youth thing is just buying the owners and Woody time with our amateur hypnotist at the helm OGS. "This is what we do at Utd" after PSG. Do what - we got lucky!
Look at Klopp - just gone and bought a Jap player from Salzburg. Their youth system is worse than ours. Yes "Terence Trent Alexander Arnold Darby" has come through, but is there anything else going to come their "wishing well" (sorry could not reset it) err no. He's just adding to the squad and at some point, they will need to spend big, when their revenue/margin stream is increasing as ours falls. Basically, it producing very little. It’s the same at City. The only club with real breakthrough talent is Chelski but they have been buying parents our for over 10 years (like we did). Out of our youngster s I can only see Greenwood, maybe Williams and ANO making it at our club & even then they are no class of 92. Football has changed.
So,
REGIME CHANGE
This needs to be done visibly & vocally at home and away matches (not stunts like banners on the end of a plane). Very large visible banners and a big chunk of the fans in the ground consistently making their voices heard. not just a couple of k we need around 15 to 20k. They need to be made uncomfortable by the vocal intent. So how do you do this?
Look, my own issue is that I am based in Newcastle and have little opportunity to make home games but I am as red and passionate about Utd as any 30yr season ticket holder believe me. So, who on here go to games and are willing to start a something that will put pressure on the Adams family & Colonel Gadhafi = with the net result of out for both / a dilution in their control with Ed out of football matters?
This requires both Social media and old school leafleting etc. etc. Getting leaflets printed dropping these in at pubs pre-match, stirring up a rhetoric similar to the Farage & UKIP movement resulting in Brexit. It can be done, but somewhere here there are many people who want the same but it’s about coordinating this and getting sorry "the sheep to follow" nowt will happen. You need to create traction.
This is more about supporting the team. Teams come and go. This is about the famous "Manchester United the biggest club on the planet". Do we want to be the next Milan? No
Are we happy to see the lucky Scousers "yes there were dead & buried 7 years back" but with some executive insight via FSG and a huge slice of luck re-timing (Klopp & some other aspects), they may dominate? No.
All the other threads on here are absolutely nonsensical sorry, just rant wagons and worry about the now. Get a grip fellow supporter and let’s start something. Look at what Greta Thunberg has managed to do - a 12-year-old with Asperger’s FFS.
So, my first request and sorry Mr. Admin man on here. Rules are rules but as an accountant you need to sometimes bend these, I need someone on here to start a thread entitled "REGIME CHANGE" and then allow me with my paltry 60+ posts to get this on it. Who is willing to do this? Who is also willing to constructively create a movement both physical and on-line to get this seriously moving within a relatively short timeframe? This needs planning but that re plenty out there with both intelligence and passion who can make this work.
Up to you because we are all being led down a path of delusion orchestrated by the Executive at the top and with Ole doing, he his "look into my eyes my eyes not round eyes. 1 2 3 you are now back in the room".
We need a movement to get these greedy cretins out of our club. They either start spending their own cash = no, or the parasites feck off. Let’s get some consensus down as to mode of delivery and the messages that are needed to get across. Let’s deal in objectivity and rationale feeling not hysterical bull carp or crack pot ideas.
So, who is Spartacus or Greta to get this rolling?
