Relegation Battle 24/25

I think Ipswich have had a tough run of games and have played reasonably well (certainly better than us). I think they have a decent chance of surviving.
 
Wolves will be fine I reckon. They've had a tough start. Despite not winning Ipswich have only lost twice so far, they're picking up valuable points but I still think they will go down.

Maybe Palace too
 
Ipswich seem really naive, play really good offensive football but get caught out really easily at the back
 
daveskimufc said:
Ipswich seem really naive, play really good offensive football but get caught out really easily at the back
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They were good today v us. We barely created anything second half.

They've played six games so far and only lost to Man. City and Liverpool so it's not been a bad start at all. Showing far more ambition than Leicester are so they need to keep that mentality and the wins will eventually happen.

Southampton are the only certs to go down imo so far, they have no chance with the style they're playing so need to change their manager to have a serious chance.
 
I would be very surprised if Southampton stay up. Their next 3 games are Arsenal, Leicester and City. They could be firmly rooted at the bottom after 10 games.
 
Southampton and Leicester are already down. Then, Ipswich or Brentford or Everton (depends on their market in January with the new owner).
 
SilentWitness said:
Why Brentford?
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Last year they finished sixteenth. And they lost Toney, they are weaker and this year the points for the survival will be higher (35+). Nottingham for me have a better team. And Wolves and Palace have too good players to go down. So, Southampton plus Leicester plus one between Brentford or Ipswich or Everton (but I think Everton will have a good transfer window in January).
 
jigen said:
Last year they finished sixteenth. And they lost Toney, they are weaker and this year the points for the survival will be higher (35+). Nottingham for me have a better team. And Wolves and Palace have too good players to go down. So, Southampton plus Leicester plus one between Brentford or Ipswich or Everton (but I think Everton will have a good window in January).
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That's fair. I think they will be fine because they probably have the best manager of those around that area. I'd be surprised if they didn't finish above Wolves.
 
Think Everton will go down with Leicester and Southampton. Everton's squad is awful and a January window won't save them.

Wolves, West Ham and Palace will scrape by. Ipswich will finish 17th. They've played 4 of the potential top 6 already and have done OK.
 
SilentWitness said:
Is it? Why? I'd argue it's in a better state than it was last season and we finished with 48 points.
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I thought you finished on 40pts last season? I could be wrong?

On paper you lost Onana and Godfrey and haven't really signed anyone this summer that I feel will make a real difference? Admittedly I don't watch much of Everton but how do you feel about Ndiaye and Lindstrom?
 
I know it's sarcastic but we are genuinely as bad as some of those teams mentioned. Our current form would see us in a relegation battle if it continues.
 
Munkehboi said:
I thought you finished on 40pts last season? I could be wrong?

On paper you lost Onana and Godfrey and haven't really signed anyone this summer that I feel will make a real difference? Admittedly I don't watch much of Everton but how do you feel about Ndiaye and Lindstrom?
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With deductions, yes, but on the pitch the group obtained 48 points.

We lost Onana but have gained Timmy and Mangala in the CM roles, so have better depth/Onana was phased out of the side at the end of the season when we had a good run of form so he's not a huge miss to a Dyche side.

We have brought in Broja to strengthen the striking options and as you say, have brought in Ndiaye and Lindstrom to our attacking options. That's meant we have been able to shift Ndiaye to LW and McNeil to AM which has made us a much better attacking functional team in my opinion and also has meant we have depth and versatility in what we can do.

Godfrey was replaced by O'Brien. Where we are weak is at fullback, and still reliant on Young/Coleman to be first backups rather than getting anyone else in but hopefully that's something addressed in January.

I think our depth is better than it was last season.
 
I think Soton and Leicester will have it extremely difficult to survive, for me they are as good as gone.

Last spot is tricky. Wolves have been terrible so far, but they should have enough quality to get a bit more points than Ipswich. Palace will be safe. Everton I also think has enough quality to stay in the PL.
 
SilentWitness said:
With deductions, yes, but on the pitch the group obtained 48 points.

We lost Onana but have gained Timmy and Mangala in the CM roles, so have better depth/Onana was phased out of the side at the end of the season when we had a good run of form so he's not a huge miss to a Dyche side.

We have brought in Broja to strengthen the striking options and as you say, have brought in Ndiaye and Lindstrom to our attacking options. That's meant we have been able to shift Ndiaye to LW and McNeil to AM which has made us a much better attacking functional team in my opinion and also has meant we have depth and versatility in what we can do.

Godfrey was replaced by O'Brien. Where we are weak is at fullback, and still reliant on Young/Coleman to be first backups rather than getting anyone else in but hopefully that's something addressed in January.

I think our depth is better than it was last season.
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Fair point, I forgot about the PTS deduction. Interested to see how Broja performs for you as Ipswich were interested in him as well. How do you judge your team's performances in the first 7-8 games so far? Speaking to an Everton supporting mate, he's firmly in the Dyche out brigade and is worried that his football is too outdated and you'll struggle this season.

Another interesting one is West Ham. On paper, they look very capable but J-Lo can't get a tune out of them yet. A lot of pressure to get a result against Ipswich his weekend as they could drop into the bottom three. I feel one of the newly promoted sides will stay up and I fancy Ipswich. Could be a team, maybe Wolves, who will capitulate like Leicester did a couple of seasons ago.

We will be fine though. We won't win any games against Citeh, dippers or dark arts FC but will probably beat the bottom half of the table for a finish around 10th and hopefully then EtH will be out.
 
Munkehboi said:
Fair point, I forgot about the PTS deduction. Interested to see how Broja performs for you as Ipswich were interested in him as well. How do you judge your team's performances in the first 7-8 games so far? Speaking to an Everton supporting mate, he's firmly in the Dyche out brigade and is worried that his football is too outdated and you'll struggle this season.
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I think we will do enough to stay up but Dyche should be replaced next summer assuming we stay up/the new owners come in.
 
Munkehboi said:
Forgot to add Citeh will be hopefully be relegated after being found guilty so it's them, Southampton and Leicester!
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I will laugh so hard if Ipswich finish in 17th only because City took one of the relegation spots!
 
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