I think I made some mistake somewhere. I'll fix it soon.
Chelsea away should be L(0-1)
Good job though!
Good job though!
Thanks. Fixed it.
This loss changes everything. 5 points off the pace now, but we can make up some of the difference by winning away at Fulham.
3 by my count.
The points difference back to three because we drew against Newcastle last season.
Oh and we can get rid of the gap completely if we win away at Fulham, while scoring a lot more goals than we did last season.
Well, not much changed since last week(other than GD). We're still keeping up with last season's results while scoring more goals and with a better goal difference. I don't see why everybody seems to be so worried.
The problem is pretty easy to explain: Most of the games we dropped points last year have already taken place and we couldn't capatalize this season, in fact we're three points behind last season's tally. If we beat Hull next week we'll have 40 points after half of the season and need to go on a 16 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss-run in the second half of the season to match the 90 points from last season. Are we good enough to do this? Maybe. Is it going to happen? Unlikely considering our injury problems and difficult away games at Eastlands, the Emirates, Goodison Park, Villa Park etc.
Taking everything into account so far the top teams are on course to the following points:
Chelsea: 87 (+4)
United: 87 (-3)
Arsenal: 75 (+3)
Liverpool: 70 (-16)
Villa: 65 (+3)
City: 59 (+9)
Everton: 57 (-6)
Tottenham: 54 (+3)
As you can clearly see there are major flaws in these calculations; First of all there is no way Spurs or City are only going to finish with 54 and 59 points respectively. Peterstorey's calculation method is probably better suited to point out how well the teams are doing than simply comparing the results.
Taking everything into account so far the top teams are on course to the following points:
Chelsea: 87 (+4)
United: 87 (-3)
Arsenal: 75 (+3)
Liverpool: 70 (-16)
Villa: 65 (+3)
City: 59 (+9)
Everton: 57 (-6)
Tottenham: 54 (+3)
As you can clearly see there are major flaws in these calculations; First of all there is no way Spurs or City are only going to finish with 54 and 59 points respectively. Peterstorey's calculation method is probably better suited to point out how well the teams are doing than simply comparing the results.
That they have Ancelotti and not Scolari
We won't need 90 points to win the league.
Probably not, but we'll need around 86-87 and we're unlikely to get there, even with all our first team player coming back. Nothing to do with today's game though, we should have avoided dropping points against the likes of Sunderland at home, Burnley away or Villa at home. Fulham at Craven Cottage was always going to be a very difficult fixture.
Well, we're comparing different things. I'm comparing this season's games against the exact same opposition from last season and we haven't been doing too badly.
You see, the points we have dropped against the likes of Villa and Burnley, we picked up elsewhere. Which is why, we're only three points behind from the same fixtures.
The thing is, we're not the only title contender dropping silly points and we are the only title contender who won't be losing players in the ACN. You can't directly compare this season with last.
FWIW, I think there's every chance we won't win the league this season, for all sorts of reasons. I'm not too bothered though and I still think we'll be there or thereabouts.
I'm doing exactly the same thing, just taking all the other teams into account as well.
Regarding the OP, it's interesting we're 12 goals ahead of last season's tally. That is a surprise.
No surprise we're conceding more, mind you.
No surprise we're conceding more, mind you.
Wouldnt surprise me if the winners eventually end up with below 80 points this season...no one looks overly great do they.....78 points might even be enough.
Well, you can, at least it gives a decent indication how the teams are doing overall beside the obvious look at the current table.
As I already said peterstorey's calculation is a lot better though.
Edit: I had United at +4 above, my fault. We're certainly on -3 at the moment.
Updated. Improved our goal difference again. We're scoring a lot of goals this season.
Updated. That is 18 more goals we've scored so far this season
I wish we could break that 97 goals record.
I did a thread on this the other day. I suggested that we're not missing Ronaldo as much as is implied, and these figures back that up.Updated. That is 18 more goals we've scored so far this season
That said, maybe Ronaldo would have nicked one or two in the games where we've dropped points.
I'm convinced that we have a potent side, when it's properly balanced - ie with defenders!
I think Ronaldo could've made a difference against Burnley and Villa, but we missed a penalty against Burnley and played with a makeshift defence against Villa(and Rooney was unlucky not to score).
So we're scoring more per game than in any of our last three title winning seasons. Some stat that.
Great stat Wan. Great addition to the thread.
This is a good thread in general. Interesting keeping an eye on how we're doing compared to last year, especially with Ronaldo gone, and the defensive injuries.
It would be good if it was bumped after every result to keep track but I guess that's not neccessary.
I have one of these myself going back to 92/93. We're having a slightly strange season when it comes to scoring. On the one hand we're on course to our second highest goal tally since then, and we've never scored 3+ more often, but at the same time it's or second worst season since 92 in terms of drawing blanks.
That's not a surprising couple of stats to be honest. Today was our 13th game in which we've scored three or more, I think. How many of those do we usually have a season?
In fact, in the last 18 games we've scored three or more 10 times. Great! And in five of those we've drawn blanks. Poor! We're being rather ridiculous, aren't we?
3+ 18 in 09/10? What does that mean?
That we're going to score three or more 18 times in the league if we continue at this rate.
Hi, I'm Merman.
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Team 2009/10 2008/09 P(GD)
Birmingham(H) W(1-0) W(1-0) 0(0)
Burnley(A) L(0-1) W(5-0) -3(-6)
Wigan(A) W(5-0) W(2-1) 0(+4)
Arsenal(H) W(2-1) D(0-0) +2(+[SIZE="3"]1[/SIZE])
Spurs(A) W(3-1) D(0-0) +2(+2)
City(H) W(4-3) W(2-0) 0(-1)
Stoke City(A) W(2-0) W(1-0) 0(+[SIZE="3"]1[/SIZE])
Sunderland(H) D(2-2) W(1-0) -2(-1)
Bolton(H) W(2-1) W(2-0) 0(-1)
Liverpool(A) L(0-2) L(1-2) 0(-1)
Blackburn(H) W(2-0) W(2-1) 0(+[SIZE="3"]1[/SIZE])
Chelsea(A) L(0-1) D(1-1) -1(-1)
Everton(H) W(3-0) W(1-0) 0(+2)
Portsmouth(A) W(4-1) W(1-0) 0(+2)
West Ham(A) W(4-0) W(1-0) 0(+3)
Aston Villa(H) L(0-1) W(3-2) -3(-2)
Wolves(H) W(3-0) D(1-1) +2(+3)
Fulham(A) L(0-3) L(0-2) 0(-1)
Hull City(A) W(3-1) W(1-0) 0(+[SIZE="3"]1[/SIZE])
Wigan(H) W(5-0) W(1-0) 0(+4)
Birmingham(B) D(1-1) W(2-0) -2(-2)
Burnley(H) W(3-0) W(4-0) 0(-1)
Hull(H) W(4-0) W(4-3) 0(+3)
Arsenal(B) W(3-1) L(1-2) 3(+3)
Total Points 53 55
Goals Scored 56 38
Goals Conceded 20 15
Goal Difference 36 23It's all about Chelsea's improvements not making them better than us.
Thanks Merman.
The goals for column really is amazing.
Who'd have thought we'd sell TBITW and Tevez, replacing them with Antonio "3 goals a season" Valencia and Michael "I was good in the 90s" Owen then go on to score almost 0.5 goals per game more. Weird.