If that’s the case then yea that’s a bit different; I only skimmed the article.
What’s wrong with the line?
It's just not very good, and I don't get the reason for doing it. Whatever people say, it is disrespectful, like it's downplaying kids dying? The guy is nearly 50 years old.
I just have to laugh at how clueless this comment is, especially the "formula" part. Shout out to The DOC for the real Formula.It's fecking amazing. Royce is so versatile, he doesn't get enough praises for me.
I've always been realistic about the criticism of Eminem in the past decade in terms of musical production, because it has a lot of merit, but when people start talking horseshit about his lyrical abilities and skill to create rhyme schemes, they lose me completely because it just turns into some hater shit.
It's like the Nas debate and how loads of people say he picks horrible beats too often nowadays, but you just can't fecking downplay his lyricism and skill as an MC, it's blasphemous.
I honestly don't get the harsh words about Eminem's work lately. I guess his catalog and tendency of being offensive is finally catching up in this new world of overdramatic people, who love to judge things on the surface, rather than try and go deeper into the subject and what is actually been said. I mean, saying his voice sounds shit is just clownish, the guy is 47 years old. Jay-Z is 50 and sounds obviously older but I don't see nobody talking shit about him.
I think what really "grates" a lot of you is you just can't keep up with his music and the way he tries to uphold the artform and the culture. That's why nowadays total garbage like "Gucci gang" and Tekashi 69 becomes so easily popular, even the biggest simpletons can rock with that stuff, you don't need a vast vocabulary or understanding much of anything, except some simplistic things like being a party animal or a wannabe tough guy.
this post is all over the placeIt's a masterpiece, the beat is incredible and the verses are top class.
It would be so much easier if you at least tried to say something meaningful. Unless you are a Tekashi 69 fan. Then I understand your struggles.
take your pseudo shit elsewhere. Referencing The DOC or Nas doesn’t give your post more credibility.To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Eminem. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of the American language most of the jokes will go over a typical listener's head. There's also Em's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Eminem truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Em's existential catchphrase "Will the real Slim Shady please stand up," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Marshall Mathers' genius wit unfolds itself on their stereos. What fools.. how I pity them.
I've always been realistic about the criticism of Eminem in the past decade in terms of musical production, because it has a lot of merit, but when people start talking horseshit about his lyrical abilities and skill to create rhyme schemes, they lose me completely because it just turns into some hater shit.
It's like the Nas debate and how loads of people say he picks horrible beats too often nowadays, but you just can't fecking downplay his lyricism and skill as an MC, it's blasphemous.
I honestly don't get the harsh words about Eminem's work lately. I guess his catalog and tendency of being offensive is finally catching up in this new world of overdramatic people, who love to judge things on the surface, rather than try and go deeper into the subject and what is actually been said. I mean, saying his voice sounds shit is just clownish, the guy is 47 years old. Jay-Z is 50 and sounds obviously older but I don't see nobody talking shit about him.
I think what really "grates" a lot of you is you just can't keep up with his music and the way he tries to uphold the artform and the culture. That's why nowadays total garbage like "Gucci gang" and Tekashi 69 becomes so easily popular, even the biggest simpletons can rock with that stuff, you don't need a vast vocabulary or understanding much of anything, except some simplistic things like being a party animal or a wannabe tough guy.
Well that wasn't so hard, was it? I totally respect your opinion when you put it like that, when it comes to music and the rhythm in particular, taste is the main thing so it's very subjective. I apologise if my remark was tasteless.@DoomSlayer
Not liking the new Eminem album doesn’t mean people don’t understand Eminem or that they’re snowflakes or it’s because they like new age rappers. You come across as ridiculous.
Eminem’s new album is lyrically good, still has corny punchlines here and there but so do the greats. Production is good. Am I liking every track? Nah. Do I like his voice especially when he starts shouting? Not overly. It fits now and then but after a couple of songs I’d rather not listen to it.
Eminem has been doing this since the late 90s. Not many rappers can keep a catalogue going for that long (if any) and still be hitting ears the same. Nas, Jay etc released albums last year (or year before) and I couldn’t listen to them neither. All their old stuff is mostly brilliant, but like Eminem, am I really going to get wowed by him after this many projects? Nope. Am I going to become tired of him? Yup.
I’m huge Bone Thugs fan, if all 5 members came together to release a new album, I wouldn’t be that excited. I’d listen to it but it isn’t for me in 2020. I still haven’t heard Bizzy’s latest solo project as I’ve done heard all I can hear.
Did you put the Russian references because I'm Bulgarian or am I bugging?
Top marks for the sarcasm though. I'm here if you actually want to talk about it.Bravo
This post is so funny that people of low IQ level reading it will stick nine inch nails through their eyelids. I know I did not
I have no idea about his lyrical skills these days because I simply don't care. He's been riding the same angry boy shock value wave since forever so it's gotten played out and boring.
I've always been realistic about the criticism of Eminem in the past decade in terms of musical production, because it has a lot of merit, but when people start talking horseshit about his lyrical abilities and skill to create rhyme schemes, they lose me completely because it just turns into some hater shit.
It's like the Nas debate and how loads of people say he picks horrible beats too often nowadays, but you just can't fecking downplay his lyricism and skill as an MC, it's blasphemous.
I honestly don't get the harsh words about Eminem's work lately. I guess his catalog and tendency of being offensive is finally catching up in this new world of overdramatic people, who love to judge things on the surface, rather than try and go deeper into the subject and what is actually been said. I mean, saying his voice sounds shit is just clownish, the guy is 47 years old. Jay-Z is 50 and sounds obviously older but I don't see nobody talking shit about him.
I think what really "grates" a lot of you is you just can't keep up with his music and the way he tries to uphold the artform and the culture. That's why nowadays total garbage like "Gucci gang" and Tekashi 69 becomes so easily popular, even the biggest simpletons can rock with that stuff, you don't need a vast vocabulary or understanding much of anything, except some simplistic things like being a party animal or a wannabe tough guy.
So how do you know what he's riding, if you don't listen to him?
It's good but I liked Kamikaze more.
Even Joe Budden said in his podcast that the album is fire and he was like "Come on Em, stop dissing me, it's not a personal problem anymore."
I listen to a few songs or the first singles when he drops an album.
He literally got famous rapping about committing domestic abuse, murder and rape in the first person. There is nothing in this new lyric, it's so pathetically tame in comparison it's an absolute non issue. As it was online too, with every article about how the 'internet was slamming it' finding about 5 tweets worldwide to quote as some kind of evidence while everyone else laughed it off.
The few that I heard from Bizzy’s new album were actually pretty good. Good smoking and chilling music in my opinion.@DoomSlayer
Not liking the new Eminem album doesn’t mean people don’t understand Eminem or that they’re snowflakes or it’s because they like new age rappers. You come across as ridiculous.
Eminem’s new album is lyrically good, still has corny punchlines here and there but so do the greats. Production is good. Am I liking every track? Nah. Do I like his voice especially when he starts shouting? Not overly. It fits now and then but after a couple of songs I’d rather not listen to it.
Eminem has been doing this since the late 90s. Not many rappers can keep a catalogue going for that long (if any) and still be hitting ears the same. Nas, Jay etc released albums last year (or year before) and I couldn’t listen to them neither. All their old stuff is mostly brilliant, but like Eminem, am I really going to get wowed by him after this many projects? Nope. Am I going to become tired of him? Yup.
I’m huge Bone Thugs fan, if all 5 members came together to release a new album, I wouldn’t be that excited. I’d listen to it but it isn’t for me in 2020. I still haven’t heard Bizzy’s latest solo project as I’ve done heard all I can hear.
The Marshall Mathers LP has an entire song about killing his wife with his baby daughter and a line about being the Columbine school shooter
fair enough if you don't like his new stuff but he's always been this edgyHe went too far in the past as well. Specifically with the Columbine example, "kids" and "Columbine" were censored from that song. With him being a kid that was regularly bullied at school, you could perhaps see his misguided reasoning for that line. Surely though, as a 47-year-old man with a grown-up daughter, he should now be mature enough to know that joking about an event where kids got blown up by a terrorist is a bit much?The Marshall Mathers LP has an entire song about killing his wife with his baby daughter and a line about being the Columbine school shooter
Yeah, I've lost a lot of interest since his voice change. Guess the drugs and natural ageing played a big impact.
