That's so sad. I hope he looks back on this in 10 years time and cringes so hard that his bones snap.
The Pesci one?the monologue felt flat and a rehash of what he's said in previous awards. Liked the Di Caprio joke, but the Pesci one was a tad mean.
I'm not seeing the Boyle and Carr comparison at all. Boyle is basically a political commentator now (and far better for it I'd say) and that is very much not Carr's schtick.Turning into Carr and Boyle more and more and seems to have disappeared up his own ass hole. Office was gold, and liked most of the extras but meh, far from the the best of the British comics.
Did no one ese find the fact that he happily turned up to the GGs when he was nominated and took the 2 awards he won happily then criticizes the whole thing. I'm not a huge fan of these mostly egotistical award shows but Gervais is a total hypocrite, and has a very slapable face.
Ok boomer.Ricky isn't a TERF, neither are the majority of Women accused of TERM'ism.
It's a term that a UK judge has deemed derogatory in itself.
Once you start name calling you've already lost. The Caf really isn't the place to discuss trans-politics.
I wasn't talking about the material they use, more in how its delivered, more shock and trying to the "push the boundaries".I'm not seeing the Boyle and Carr comparison at all. Boyle is basically a political commentator now (and far better for it I'd say) and that is very much not Carr's schtick.
They did what they did and can rightly be ridiculed for it. Pesci was just a dig at his appearance, which is mean.The Pesci one?
What about Huffman, Eppstein or Cook?
Absolutely, they are fair game.They did what they did and can rightly be ridiculed for it.
I agree, this was (or certainly felt) unecessary but you could say the same about his gag about Scorsese and theme parks and that was really funny! Even Di Niro laughed at that one.Pesci was just a dig at his appearance, which is mean.
Lighten up. It's just a bit of comedy from a man who constantly ridicules his own appearance.They did what they did and can rightly be ridiculed for it. Pesci was just a dig at his appearance, which is mean.
It wasn't my issue, just replying to somebody else who asked why it was mean yet several other jokes weren't.Lighten up. It's just a bit of comedy from a man who constantly ridicules his own appearance.
Oh sorry, then continue!It wasn't my issue, just replying to somebody else who asked why it was mean yet several other jokes weren't.
That's so sad. I hope he looks back on this in 10 years time and cringes so hard that his bones snap.
No, it's not. I agree with him. Gervais' act has long become tiresome and tedious, imo.I believe the monologue was the opposite of flat. Weird comment
What other topics do you feel should be off limits to us?The Caf really isn’t the place to discuss discussing trans-politics.
Are you kidding? If not then the answer is that I was. I just added a bit of meta to the thing I was responding to, never thought it would be taken seriouslyWhat other topics do you feel should be off limits to us?
Sorry man, watching us getting comprehensively beaten by City has taken my sense of humour away todayAre you kidding? If not then the answer is that I was. I just added a bit of meta to the thing I was responding to, never thought it would be taken seriously
Pretty much.I take it you're saying Gervais was "pleasing the court"?
Once you overcome the 1-inch tall barrier of subtitles, you will be introduced to so many more amazing films
Who's answer is more productive and who's answer shows an underlining world view ?This film is about the rich and poor and essentially about capitalism, and the U.S. is the heart of capitalism
Understandable ;(Sorry man, watching us getting comprehensively beaten by City has taken my sense of humour away today
Don't watch. He praises the police.im afraid to watch the speech in case i get triggered
Reading arguments between TERFs and SJWs is like watching a footy game between two clubs I passionately hate.Trans-exclusionairy radical feminist.
No, I don't really know what that means. Though I'd venture a guess it's something like:
Women: yay!
Women who were born a man: boo!
I said this in the CATS Movie thread but I can tell you first hand that he's a massive prick when on set.Yeah but why? Anything specific?
since the 2016 Golden GlobesGood on you Gervais .Hollywood needed that middle finger for awhile now.
Wtf is this shit?
Thompson, Thompson, Thompson!Pretty much.
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Gervais seemed to have fallen down the same hole as every other satirist has over the last 20 odd years(Barring a few exceptions - Chris Morris, Chapo Trap House, Vic Burger)of simply pointing out the hypocrisy of liberal and conservative institutions, while offering no alternative. Anyone today can point out the hypocrisy of Apple's sweatshops, its so easy that it can be said on mainstream television(It's also plays into the strength of capitalist ideology. Sniff sniff and so on and so on, sniff sniff), so whats the underpinning of Gervais criticism ?
Compare Gervais rant to the comments(And work) of Bong Joon-ho
Who's answer is more productive and who's answer shows an underlining world view ?
Gervais has nothing but placating the court. But ok not everyone can reach the levels of Chaplin or Morris but satire doesn't need to be a detailed vision of the world, the underpinning Morris talks about could simply be pure anger and hatred. How much of todays satirists pass the Alexander Cockburn test - Is your hatred pure ? For people like Bill Hicks or Hunter S Thomas their hatred was, Thomas went on to talk shows and put forward his belief that the political careers of Bill Clinton should end in the same way as Mussolini, Hicks really did think the answer to marketing was mass suicide. Thomas wouldn't have spent 3 hours moaning about the length of an awards show, he would have tasered Tom Hanks and left the building within the first hour. Now we could argue if this is in anyway useful but at the very least we know Gervais doesn't hate the people he was roasting on Sunday, he doesn't really hate the Apple Ceo. He just doesn't care if he offends him which is something completely different and less effective(Although most satire is pointless tbf).
I should say again I thought Gervais monologue was funny, which is more than you can say for other forms of comedy(The Daily Show, SNL or whatever Charlie Brooker is doing these days)but as Morris said we really should be expecting something with a bit more clout.