Rojo's dangerous tackles.

[Yorkeontop]

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...two-foot-tackle-controversy-at-crystal-palace

I think its a case of an under skilled individual being overwhelmed by the situation.

Edit: Someone please put a gif/video of the 2 tackles in question.

 

[top1whoisman]

 

[Elliot]

The poor lad just wants to go home for christmas, who can blame him!

 

[Ramshock]

I said in the match day thread, he needs to cut it out before it costs us. I suspect Jose, despite what he said in the poast match interviews will have a word with him.

 

[izec]

The first one was worse than the second one, but they are both red cards. He needs to cut it out, i never saw him doing that before for us.

 

[Gregawa]

Opposition fans and even the media have been all over him about these incidents. It's going to come home to roost, and it's not even going to be a particularly dangerous tackle now. If he goes over the line a bit, he'll get a red. The refs will have him in mind for it.

 

[Havak]

No argument. He needs to cut it out and they were both red cards in today's game. Very lucky to get away with them.

Unfortunately, his next "lunge" of a tackle is probably going to get him a red card, even if it's not two-footed and is more of an honest attempt to win the ball.

 

[Ramshock]

Jose basically admitted in the presser that its because he is Argentinian (ergo a cnut)

 

[predator]

Generation snowflake has failed us

 

[top1whoisman]

Opposition fans and even the media have been all over him about these incidents. It's going to come home to roost, and it's not even going to be a particularly dangerous tackle now. If he goes over the line a bit, he'll get a red. The refs will have him in mind for it.

Absolutely, he’ll be watched, needs to be really careful. Both incidents should be red cards, so he can only blame himself. Hopefully Mourinho has a word with him, could’ve cost us big. Hopefully Bailly’s back soon as we’d need to rotate the CBs anyway. Jones was good again, Rojo probably had the worst performance of his recent good run in the team. Launched unnecessarily big number of long balls when under no pressure, fouled a lot, another 1st half booking...

 

[VeevaVee]

That kind of total lack of thought and composure is not what you want in a CB and he could've cost us more than once in what is a very important time for us (and him). It's not even like he's doing it because the game is heated or it's last ditch stuff, which is what makes it even more stupid.

 

[Manny]

I remember Jose saying something about protecting yourself when going into a tackle i.e. going in soft will likely get you injured. But Rojo has taken that to new levels.

He has to cut that out. It's dangerous and he's at risk of developing a reputation for it and that only harms the team.

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

It's a red. Using both feet is excessive force and that is the red card criteria. It's not even up for debate, as it's nothing to do with getting the ball or making contact with the player. It's the force, and two feet is excessive.

I always remember the Kompany two-footer on Nani where he got a straight red, despite getting the ball and Nani jumping the challenge. I thought that was going to be the moment where referees truly started handling two-footers in a no-nonsense fashion, but it is still a largely inconsistent call. Kompany didn't learn from it, because he still does them all the time.

I don't think they are malicious, and they are most likely instinctive. You're more likely to poke the ball away with two feet than one, or by trapping it between both feet, but that doesn't justify it. He needs to stop resorting to it, and referees need to punish them in a consistent manner. If players keep getting away with them, there is more temptation to do it.

 

[SteveTheRed]

I said in the match day thread, he needs to cut it out before it costs us. I suspect Jose, despite what he said in the poast match interviews will have a word with him.

Absolutely, I think Mourinho specifically praising Rojo tells us that behind closed doors he is going give him a bollocking! Classic man management, he doesn't need the media hyping it up.

 

[villain]

Yeah he needs to stop, point blank.

 

[Adam-Utd]

He just needs to remember to lunge in with 1 leg forward and behind him, that's a slide tackle. Jumping in with 2 legs pointing forward is completely wrong and dangerous.

I hope Jose has a good talk with him about it, as it's going to get him a 3 game ban, potentially lose us a match and wreck his career with us. Let alone if he does connect properly and hurt somebody else.

He's been doing so well recently, all refs are going to be watching him like a hawk now.

 

[Kostur]

Generation snowflake has failed us

On topic though, the outrage is absolutely justified, I like him and other than those idiotic tackles he's really stepped it up but he really needs to cut it or he'll end up being booked for no challenges as a sort of prevention. It's a very dangerous way of playing and we'd be furious had it happened to our players, both times it happened he should've been off.

 

[Robertd0803]

Hes walking a very thin line, just when he is starting to show some form and reliability he keeps trying to kill other players. Hopefully he will tone it down from now as you can see him getting sent off for nothing fairly soon.

 

[prateik]

Both horrible tackles. He needs to cut it out. I'm sure he has already been told that.

 

[Ixion]

They're both red cards but the Everton one in-particular, it's staggering he wasn't shown a red for that.

 

[Sylar]

I can just imagine, Jose will highlight it and Rojo will know himself. Hes now going to try and curb it and end up going with one foot, and we will get a ref who wont see it clearly but be thinking "wait, hes done this before, so he must have just done it now" and send him off.

I think for the first one, the reaction of the Everton player might have saved him. He wasnt exactly rolling around (he kinda got up pretty quick too).

 

[Physiocrat]

The tackles weren't that bad- feet were on the ground at the point of impact. My main concern is his lack of composure at CB which could well cost us in some games.

 

[sallycinnamin]

I blame the strobe lights and the female cheerleaders. On a serious note though he does need to cut it out because it will prove costly at some point or another.

 

[11101]

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...two-foot-tackle-controversy-at-crystal-palace

I think its a case of an under skilled individual being overwhelmed by the situation.

Yeah that's not it.

He needs to cut it out and be careful of the referees now, but on the other hand every player going in to a 50/50 with him is going to have second thoughts.

 

[Randall Flagg]

next time he farts near a player he is going to get a red

He will be on the refs shit list

 

[ManUchosenbosslvg]

To get 4 points from those 2 games is a great result as would have been very difficult playing both with 10 men for long periods.

We've been extremely lucky with referees but their colleagues will be out to correct their mistakes..

 

[VP89]

The tackles weren't that bad- feet were on the ground at the point of impact. My main concern is his lack of composure at CB which could well cost us in some games.

 

[Adisa]

He's a marked man now. Refs will be watching him.

 

[Cascarino]

The one last night isn't as bad as I'd heard, definitely a red but you see players get away with it a fair bit.

I think he'll always have a rash streak but like some of you have said, needs to stop because refs will be waiting for it now

 

[Massive Spanner]

The thread title reads like a reality TV show for Discovery Channel.

 

[lysglimt]

He is stupid - which is so sad because he has really shown what he can do in the last few weeks. But he is practically a marked man now - and he will be given the benefit of the doubt next time. So I fear that Rojo will get sent off for an offence not worthy of a red card, the next time. It is like Ronaldo experienced at one stage after he had gone down a bit too easy too many times - he got nothing from referees, even when he clearly was fouled.

 

[FattyFooty]

Hes playing so good, so what why he does it is kinda bizzare.

I really do think Rojo wants to play and he will fight for a first elleven spot. Its just so wierd.

What is going on in hes head when he do it?

 

[Shane88]

He's a marked man now. Refs will be watching him.

Not just watching him, they'll be out to punish for the ones he got away with.

He's going to get sent off soon for something more or less innocuous. A stray elbow when jumping for a ball or something like that.

 

[mu4c_20le]

I dont remember seeing this side of him under LVG. And Jose has defended him a few times, or refused to talk about it. Makes you wonder.

 

[Snow]

Don't think the tackle last night was that bad. Not close to the Everton tackle. He basically just sat down and stopped Zaha which was fine. Lee's challenge on Bailly was the worst challenge in that game.

 

[RedPed]

The legend that is Mr. Scholes chopped people down every week. Give the guy a break. I'm sure he'll learn from it.

 

[Terminator]

Don't think the tackle last night was that bad. Not close to the Everton tackle. He basically just sat down and stopped Zaha which was fine. Lee's challenge on Bailly was the worst challenge in that game.

Lee's challenge was definitely worse IMO.

 

[devilish]

The legend that is Mr. Scholes chopped people down every week. Give the guy a break. I'm sure he'll learn from it.

With the difference that Scholes was a playmaker. Rojo should know how to defend

 

[GloryHunter07]

Yeah he needs to stop, point blank.

Yep - someone needs to have a word before he costs us a game.

 

[Ekeke]

Two stupid tackles, and that rash and reckless part of his game is why I just about prefer Jones over him. He is also careless a bit too often with his passing giving the ball away in dangerous areas. These are some important areas... The rest of his game he's done very well with this season. Good backup, but he still needs to stop these nonsense challenges because an unavailable backup isnt a good one.