Ronald Koeman - Barcelona First team coach

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Will be very interesting choice, what the resident Barca fans think about this move?
 

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Will be very interesting choice, what the resident Barca fans think about this move?
I think he is as good a choice as any - plus he has a great connection with the club so you would imagine he will have the supporters full backing from the start.
 

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Just a stop gap until Xavi takes over next season, from what I can gather. Being sacked by Everton obviously agrees with him though. First the Netherlands job, then Barcelona. Fair play to the man.
 

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Think he's a decent enough choice for them.
 

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Southampton had him, Poch and now Hassenhuttl. Someone’s making some really incredible decisions.
 

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Koeman must have a nice pay off for being sacked built into his contract. Not saying he's going to fail, just that everyone knows Victor Font will win the next elections and bring Xavi in as coach.
 

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Frenkie De Jong will be happy.

I think it is a decent appointment, but only a stop gap for a year or two. They want Xavi, so he is a good option until then. Makes no sense to commit to someone like Poch when you won't give him enough time. And he is inexperienced on this level with a senior squad.
 

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I really don't want this to happen. We are building quite a good team with the Netherlands right now!
 

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Finding it strange that Poch is not being able to get the big job. First Juve job, now this.
 

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Him and Walsh made some piss poor signings with us.

- He also sold/froze out all of our best and most promising players.
 
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Just a stop gap until Xavi takes over next season, from what I can gather. Being sacked by Everton obviously agrees with him though. First the Netherlands job, then Barcelona. Fair play to the man.
Strange way for Koeman to agree to things do. He gives up the chance to become a hero by dragging Holland back from international wilderness to perhaps last 4 of euros just to spend a year at Barca keeping the seat warm for Xavi.
 

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We are still haven't recovered from his tenure. Him and Walsh sold all our young talent and replaced them with over priced average players on huge wages.
 

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His fate will be similar to Lopetegui I think. Similar situations.
 

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Finding it strange that Poch is not being able to get the big job. First Juve job, now this.
It's almost like he's not as highly rated other places as he is here ;)
 

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does this make the people that think we should sack ole think twice if barce can only get koeman and haven't easily put in place an 'elite manager'? or is the narrative that we could still easily do that but barce dont want a good manager because xavi?
 

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Every time we beat them - "Manchester United were poor, and we defeated ourselves, they didn't defeat us"

We're bound to get them in the CL next season now, just so I have to look at his stupid cabbage-shaped head again.
 

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Strange way for Koeman to agree to things do. He gives up the chance to become a hero by dragging Holland back from international wilderness to perhaps last 4 of euros just to spend a year at Barca keeping the seat warm for Xavi.
I agree with you. I’m sure we’ll hear more regarding the details of his upcoming tenure in due course; however, the general consensus is that Xavi will be taking that job from 2021-2022. No matter what he signed/how long for could be irrelevant. Anyway, it’ll make for interesting viewing, regardless.
 

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Wrong choice. I would have gone with Gallardo
 

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Not my cup of tea.

Every time we beat them - "Manchester United were poor, and we defeated ourselves, they didn't defeat us"

We're bound to get them in the CL next season now, just so I have to look at his stupid cabbage-shaped head again.
At least in group stage it won't happen as both are in pot 2.
 

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does this make the people that think we should sack ole think twice if barce can only get koeman and haven't easily put in place an 'elite manager'? or is the narrative that we could still easily do that but barce dont want a good manager because xavi?
Barcelona board is useless, so they shouldn't be a benchmark and no elite manager is joining 12 months before elections.
 

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This Koeman situation is a lose-lose for everyone involved. Koeman may not last more than a season, he’s been awful at club level and he finds himself in a situation where his NT is clicking and then if he leaves now he has burned that bridge forever. I know Barca is his dream job but he’s far too pragmatic and while he says the right things in interviews, I don’t think he’s going to move the needle much in the coming season.

The only positive is maybe the locker room will respect his authority. But this is a bad bad move. Give it to the Barca B coach for a season and then let the new board don their thing.
 

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Wrong choice. I would have gone with Gallardo
Yes! Him and Poch are my top 2 choices but from what I’ve read the board is nervous about Gallardo’s lack of experience in Europe
 

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I think he'll join the list of underwhelming Barca managers. He's a decent manager, but I think they need a more established or up and coming manager to turn things around. A bit of a shame for the Netherlands though as from what I'd heard he'd been doing a good job, even if he hadn't had a major tournament yet.
 

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I think he'll join the list of underwhelming Barca managers. He's a decent manager, but I think they need a more established or up and coming manager to turn things around. A bit of a shame for the Netherlands though as from what I'd heard he'd been doing a good job, even if he hadn't had a major tournament yet.
I don't think they need anything more than a decent manager who can make the sum equal to the constituent parts, considering the talent they still have in the squad. Koeman's problems at club level have been with recruitment and he's taking over a team that already has Messi, De Jong, Griezmann and Ter Stegen in the spine. They need some additions, notably on the left wing, midfield and a forward but I doubt they need a complete tear down or a tactical revamp.
 

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We are still haven't recovered from his tenure. Him and Walsh sold all our young talent and replaced them with over priced average players on huge wages.
Sure i recall when he was at Everton him pretty much saying 'yeah id love to be Barcelona manager'.
 

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Sure i recall when he was at Everton him pretty much saying 'yeah id love to be Barcelona manager'.
Yes I found him quite disrespectful to be honest, like he didn't want to be here in the first place. Supposedly a nasty man around the training ground also.
 

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does this make the people that think we should sack ole think twice if barce can only get koeman and haven't easily put in place an 'elite manager'? or is the narrative that we could still easily do that but barce dont want a good manager because xavi?
Its got to do with how the elections work. a manager joining Barca now should know that they will be gone in a years time. The new president will be using Xavi as part of his plans.
 

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does this make the people that think we should sack ole think twice if barce can only get koeman and haven't easily put in place an 'elite manager'? or is the narrative that we could still easily do that but barce dont want a good manager because xavi?
This. People whinge about Ole with no viable alternative other than Poch 99% of the time.

The truth is there is an absolute dearth of top quality managers that are available. I've said before that if we can guarantee a better appointment than Ole then I'd consider that but the truth is Poch would be a big risk for no guaranteed improvement and who else represents little risk with guaranteed improvement?

There are a bunch of decent level managers still trying to establish themselves and emerge as the next big name but, to me at least, Ole is one of those anyway.
 

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I don't think they need anything more than a decent manager who can make the sum equal to the constituent parts, considering the talent they still have in the squad. Koeman's problems at club level have been with recruitment and he's taking over a team that already has Messi, De Jong, Griezmann and Ter Stegen in the spine. They need some additions, notably on the left wing, midfield and a forward but I doubt they need a complete tear down or a tactical revamp.
This. They need a manager brave enough to change the approach, they are not the tiki taka Barca of old. They have quality within the side, they just need a manager to bring that together and play to the strengths of the squad itself.
 

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It will happen - I don't think he is any rush.
I like Poch but not sure his attitude to winning trophies etc sits well with the likes of Barca.
Also if he is in no rush to get another job after sitting at home for 10 months Id be worried about his attitude to be honest
 

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does this make the people that think we should sack ole think twice if barce can only get koeman and haven't easily put in place an 'elite manager'? or is the narrative that we could still easily do that but barce dont want a good manager because xavi?
Who was the last renowned Barca manager at the time of his appointment? Arguably not even Rijkaard fits such a description. He was succeeded by Guardiola, then Tito, Martino, Luis Enrique, Valverde, Setien and now Koeman. Barca don't go for prestigious managers, instead they try to appoint coaches who fit their philosophy and could become great. But they weren't really good at identifying those hidden gems in the past if we're being honest. Anyway, I wouldn't read too much into that. Barca could easily have gone for a more renowned coach if they wanted, I'd say.
 

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I like Poch but not sure his attitude to winning trophies etc sits well with the likes of Barca.
Also if he is in no rush to get another job after sitting at home for 10 months Id be worried about his attitude to be honest
He is waiting for the right job rather than jumping at the first big job that comes along. I don't see how that shows anything about his attitude other than wanting to ensure he gets it right.
 

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I feel like Barca are too much playing into Koeman's dreams of being their manager, something he's wanted for almost two decades.

Barca sees him as a temporary solution and he sees Barca as his dream, and in the mean time he may burn all bridges with the Dutch NT and the Dutch population.
 

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Who was the last renowned Barca manager at the time of his appointment? Arguably not even Rijkaard fits such a description. He was succeeded by Guardiola, then Tito, Martino, Luis Enrique, Valverde, Setien and now Koeman. Barca don't go for prestigious managers, instead they try to appoint coaches who fit their philosophy and could become great. But they weren't really good at identifying those hidden gems in the past if we're being honest. Anyway, I wouldn't read too much into that. Barca could easily have gone for a more renowned coach if they wanted, I'd say.
Rijkaard had taken sparta rotterdam to relegation in his last job before barca so arguably not him either so antic or van gaal?