Rooney and Rio USA Road Trip

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I wonder what this is about.
Ambassador roles?

Are they coming out of retirement?

New series where Rooney picks Rio up every morning and they drive to interesting locations.

 
Looks like a shit version of that Coogan / Brydon show, without the Michael Caine impressions, crossed with a shit version of top gear.
 
Oranges038 said:
Looks like a shit version of that Coogan / Brydon show, without the Michael Caine impressions, crossed with a shit version of top gear.
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It’s the show we didn’t know we needed! We cannot wait for THIS! Man Utd is cooking this summer!
 
i cant wait for the episode where they tackle the Dalton Highway in Alaska
 
Still shocks me how old Rooney looks. He wasn't old enough to drink when I'd grown out of clubbing, and now he looks older than my Dad.

Still, he's pretty entertaining to watch, seems to have a good sense of humour. I won't be watching this though, I cannot stand Ferdinand.
 
It's weird how entertained I am by our older players still than I am with our current players on the pitch, maybe we are a club of the past
 
seeing these two
I miss having genuine world class players at the club
 
Top class players know you need characters like Cunha who have that fight in them, even if they go a bit overboard now and then. Yet some of our fans want to lump him in as a player with poor attitude along with sulky soft lads like Rashford and Garnacho. So out of touch.
 
World class players who were serial winners and yet they feared losing more than thought of winning. That’s why they were winners.
 
Fat Rooney chugs around the pitch out of breath and still scores more than Hojland and Zirkzee. Im not even joking. Set pieces better than Bruno too.
 
Was just about to post a thread, but this was great I thought

 
LARulz said:
Was just about to post a thread, but this was great I thought

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A lot of our players from 2000s are still very good friends from what I've seen. They even have a whatsapp group chat. Rooney and Ronaldo are the only exception and they seem to really dislike each other.
 
KingEric04 said:
A lot of our players from 2000s are still very good friends from what I've seen. They even have a whatsapp group chat. Rooney and Ronaldo are the only exception and they seem to really dislike each other.
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I don't think they had any issues till Rooney & Neville expressed disappointment at Ronaldo's actual disappointing behaviour during his second stint.
 
afrocentricity said:
Great fkin interview:
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He still misses the point about questioning Fergie. It's not about being right or wrong.

Imagine being a manager who has already won everything multiple times. You're currently overseeing the most successful spell in Manchester United's history. You're in the middle of winning 5 titles out of 7. A hair away from 7 out 7 as it turned out.

And a player comes in and questions your aspirations. A player who wasn't living right himself.

Yeah that's not going down well.

Decent interview though. Love his viewpoints as to what a player should be. But I don't think he's got a management mentality.
 
Marwood said:
He still misses the point about questioning Fergie. It's not about being right or wrong.

Imagine being a manager who has already won everything multiple times. You're currently overseeing the most successful spell in Manchester United's history. You're in the middle of winning 5 titles out of 7. A hair away from 7 out 7 as it turned out.

And a player comes in and questions your aspirations. A player who wasn't living right himself.

Yeah that's not going down well.

Decent interview though. Love his viewpoints as to what a player should be. But I don't think he's got a management mentality.
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Pretty sure he's not questioning the manager's aspirations, it's more like the club's aspirations and rightfully so. If you're looking to sign a new deal being the main star of the team then you want to be reassured that the club is going to be investing the money in the right areas after losing two of your best players.
 
I can't believe that I went out everyday not knowing that there was a non-zero chance that I was going to come across these two, tooling around the wastelands of the midwest.

It's a shame, I could've taken them to some good burger joints.
 
Cunha08 said:
Pretty sure he's not questioning the manager's aspirations, it's more like the club's aspirations and rightfully so. If you're looking to sign a new deal being the main star of the team then you want to be reassured that the club is going to be investing the money in the right areas after losing two of your best players.
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Fergie was the club. Why do you think he took it so personally?

And I think he'd proved himself enough to not be questioned by a player at that point.
 
Marwood said:
Fergie was the club. Why do you think he took it so personally?
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Because he had a massive, fragile ego.

Why do you think the Beckham and Keane incidents happened? Both of them were serial winners just like the manager and Manchester United through and through.

Keane was right about him all along.
 
Marwood said:
He still misses the point about questioning Fergie. It's not about being right or wrong.

Imagine being a manager who has already won everything multiple times. You're currently overseeing the most successful spell in Manchester United's history. You're in the middle of winning 5 titles out of 7. A hair away from 7 out 7 as it turned out.

And a player comes in and questions your aspirations. A player who wasn't living right himself.

Yeah that's not going down well.

Decent interview though. Love his viewpoints as to what a player should be. But I don't think he's got a management mentality.
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Man Utd was already in decline at that point. We no longer had Tevez and Ronaldo and we bought the likes of washed Owen, Obertan, Bebe, Phil Jones etc. And it wasn't entirely the fault of Fergie but it was rather awful recruiting that we had around that time.

We had the plans to buy the likes of Lewandowski and Bale and even to buy Ronaldo again, but none of these transfers materalized. If you see our last title winning squad, it was a far cry from our 2008 squad. Fergie was able to turn the bang average players into really good players but as soon as he left Utd, we finished 6th with Moyes.

We had a panic buy of Fellaini and you already had a feeling that Moyes was doomed from the matchweek 1. I'm not trying to justify Rooney's behavior but he was right to question our awful transfer policy at that time.
 
KingEric04 said:
Man Utd was already in decline at that point. We no longer had Tevez and Ronaldo and we bought the likes of washed Owen, Obertan, Bebe, Phil Jones etc. And it wasn't entirely the fault of Fergie but it was rather awful recruiting that we had around that time.

We had the plans to buy the likes of Lewandowski and Bale and even to buy Ronaldo again, but none of these transfers materalized. If you see our last title winning squad, it was a far cry from our 2008 squad. Fergie was able to turn the bang average players into really good players but as soon as he left Utd, we finished 6th with Moyes.

We had a panic buy of Fellaini and you already had a feeling that Moyes was doomed from the matchweek 1. I'm not trying to justify Rooney's behavior but he was right to question our awful transfer policy at that time.
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What happened in the future doesn't matter.

It's about keeping a lid on what a player thinks he can and can't influence. How far he thinks he can go.

If at that point it was right for a player to question Fergie every manager on the planet should be getting questioned by players in his office. He couldn't really have been more successful at that stage. To be questioned by a player at that moment in history was crazy.

Even crazier was the player saying he was off when the manager didn't give him an answer.

Remember we won two out of the next three leagues after this. Only missing out on the third by goal difference.

And another champions league final shortly after.
 
I see both sides of the argument. Rooney is right in the sense that this was his last big contract and wanted assurances that he wasn't going to be with a team in transition. He went from playing with the likes of Van Nistelrooy, Saha, Solskjaer, Tevez and Ronaldo to playing with Chicharito, Owen Berbatov and Welbeck. Plus with Giggs and Scholes on their last legs it was a reasonable concern to question where the squad was heading. Us fans were doing the same thing.

On the other hand I think he'd been around the squad long enough to realize that having Sir Alex in charge guaranteed he'd be winning trophies whether there was world class players in the squad or not. In some ways I think the Glazers and Sir Alex cheated themselves out of winning so much more. There was so many top players who went for reasonable fees that would have made a huge difference post-Ronaldo like Robben, Ribery, Hazard and Vidal who went for like 7M Euros to Juventus. We spent more than that on Bebe.
 
Marwood said:
What happened in the future doesn't matter.

It's about keeping a lid on what a player thinks he can and can't influence. How far he thinks he can go.

If at that point it was right for a player to question Fergie every manager on the planet should be getting questioned by players in his office. He couldn't really have been more successful at that stage. To be questioned by a player at that moment in history was crazy.

Even crazier was the player saying he was off when the manager didn't give him an answer.

Remember we won two out of the next three leagues after this. Only missing out on the third by goal difference.

And another champions league final shortly after.
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It wasn't "crazy" at all, if anything Rooney was proven right. We lost Tevez and Ronaldo and Hargreaves (to injuries). Valencia was supposed to be a replacement for CR7 and washed Owen was supposed to be a replacement for Tevez. Do you really think those transfers were good? No, they were abysmal in fact. In the midfield, Scholes was getting older and we only bought Cleverly who was average at best. We still had to rely on a 37 year old Scholes and even older Giggs in the midfield. We were only a very good team because of the genius of Sir Alex. The moment he left and Moyes inherited that same exact squad (Scholes retired and Fellaini arrived), we finished 6th in the Premier League.

So technically we were the second best team in the world behind Barcelona, but it was obvious how much better Barcelona was against us. Why? Because they kept buying superstars and better players. For example David Villa and Ibrahimovic. Henry before that. Our only notable purchase during that time was the purchase of Van Persie. And it ends there. The Glazers didn't properly back Fergie in his last couple of years at Utd and he left us an aging squad that needed to be rebuild. Basically, Fergie was papering the cracks that whole time. The results were great, but if we had a proper backing there would be a couple of more Champions Leagues. Now, does that justify the behavior of Rooney? Not really, but you can't say that he was talking bollocks.
 
KingEric04 said:
It wasn't "crazy" at all, if anything Rooney was proven right. We lost Tevez and Ronaldo and Hargreaves (to injuries). Valencia was supposed to be a replacement for CR7 and washed Owen was supposed to be a replacement for Tevez. Do you really think those transfers were good? No, they were abysmal in fact. In the midfield, Scholes was getting older and we only bought Cleverly who was average at best. We still had to rely on a 37 year old Scholes and even older Giggs in the midfield. We were only a very good team because of the genius of Sir Alex. The moment he left and Moyes inherited that same exact squad (Scholes retired and Fellaini arrived), we finished 6th in the Premier League.

So technically we were the second best team in the world behind Barcelona, but it was obvious how much better Barcelona was against us. Why? Because they kept buying superstars and better players. For example David Villa and Ibrahimovic. Henry before that. Our only notable purchase during that time was the purchase of Van Persie. And it ends there. The Glazers didn't properly back Fergie in his last couple of years at Utd and he left us an aging squad that needed to be rebuild. Basically, Fergie was papering the cracks that whole time. The results were great, but if we had a proper backing there would be a couple of more Champions Leagues. Now, does that justify the behavior of Rooney? Not really, but you can't say that he was talking bollocks.
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You're right I can't. That's why I haven't.

I said it doesn't matter if he was right or wrong. He simply had no place questioning Alex Ferguson at that time. It was crazy of him to think he had the right to do so.

I clearly haven't said all was well with the transfers at the time.
 
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