Roy Keane

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Love the way he tears into these kids for asking stupid questions, absolutely no mercy shown! :drool:

 

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The diamond is effectively a 532 or 352 in transition if you have the players.

The full backs need to provide the width and the defensive midfielder needs to have the nous to drop deeper when the full backs are upfield.

It’s a very flexible system. Labelling it “The Diamond” is too reductive.
It looked like a pretty fixed diamond to me. We basically had McTominay playing right on top of AWB and Pogba right on top of Shaw. Add Fred into the mix playing as the point of the diamond and we basically had 7 outfield players within 35yrds of our goal most of the time. This just played right into Arsenal’s pressing game
 

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I find the various comments from journos on twitter criticizing his punditry to be a bit elitist/patronising to be honest... as if the only way to breakdown football is to talk about formations/tactics etc. Like us simpleton viewers understand feck all about football and so I need a pundit to explain intricacies that I couldn't possibly glean on my own.

You know what I have less of insight into? Player mentality, how a top footballer things, what its like in a dressing room etc... so why Roy's insight into that aspect of the game is any less valid then a breakdown of formation and tactics I don't know.

Fact is Roy does it in his own way and - most importantly - is entertaining. And that's all I'm really asking for at half time in a football game - to be entertained. And really, does anyone need an explanation of why Walker fouled Mane? I know it was a foul, I can see it was a foul, and to be frank, Walker was being an idiot.
Tend to agree, particularly when he’s talking about United.

We all know most of the players have the required quality, because they’ve shown it plenty of times against strong opposition, what is missing is clearly the mentality and Roy is always pointing that out.

It was also something he obviously excelled at so knows what he’s talking about.
 

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Love the way he tears into these kids for asking stupid questions, absolutely no mercy shown! :drool:
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He wasn't tearing into them, he was just being Uncle Keano.

If Keane was a bit more interested (and possibly capable) in being a manager, I'd genuinely absolutely love him as United manager. He truly gets the SAF ethos.
 

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He wasn't tearing into them, he was just being Uncle Keano.

If Keane was a bit more interested (and possibly capable) in being a manager, I'd genuinely absolutely love him as United manager. He truly gets the SAF ethos.
Did we watch the same video because I saw Keane tear into those kids like a vicious pit bull would.

I'm shocked they even let you upload that kind of thing to YouTube.
 

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If Keane was a bit more interested (and possibly capable) in being a manager, I'd genuinely absolutely love him as United manager. He truly gets the SAF ethos.
He doesn't get the SAF ethos at all. SAF himself said that different players require different ways of getting through to them, and thus he was able to manage a multitude of different personalities throughout his career. Keane is the complete opposite of this. He seems to expect everyone to be him.
 

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I think he was still drinking in the 99 season but I'm never sure when he quit for good. I think he gave it up a few years before he retired.
yes in the recent sit down interview along with Neville Keane says him and Scholes were drinking in Barcelona before the game
 

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Been some time since I last did a match compilation on Keane, so here you go.


Just immense :drool: .
 

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Been some time since I last did a match compilation on Keane, so here you go.


Just immense :drool: .
Another great video, thanks. Do you have a video of him in the 6-1 game against Arsenal? That was another classic Keane performance.
 

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He wasn't tearing into them, he was just being Uncle Keano.

If Keane was a bit more interested (and possibly capable) in being a manager, I'd genuinely absolutely love him as United manager. He truly gets the SAF ethos.
He was interested in being a manager and realised he is not very good thus has not been a manager for almost a decade now.

Being angry and expecting every player to be like him doesn't work, SAF had a lot more than that in his management.
 

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He was interested in being a manager and realised he is not very good thus has not been a manager for almost a decade now.

Being angry and expecting every player to be like him doesn't work, SAF had a lot more than that in his management.
I always get annoyed when people try to reduce Sir Alex to a small subset of things to make someone seem similar to him, like being Scottish and from the same area with Moyes, or being angry at times, as with Keane. The great man had more tools in his managerial skillset than arguably anyone in the history of the game.
 

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@Cloud7 , @The holy trinity 68

I think you're are misunderstanding what I meant to say. I'm stating that at the core, Ferguson and Keane are the same: both fierce characters driven by a will to not be losers.

I didn't say that they are same person, that they have the same personalities, the same skills or the same approaches to management.

But I do believe, at the core, they share something probably more important than all of those things, and that's the burning desire to end up winning.

I can't say the same about any of our current squad, for example.
 

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I always get annoyed when people try to reduce Sir Alex to a small subset of things to make someone seem similar to him, like being Scottish and from the same area with Moyes, or being angry at times, as with Keane. The great man had more tools in his managerial skillset than arguably anyone in the history of the game.
I totally agree and feel the same way. It always annoys me as well when people say that SAF was great because of his man management, when in reality he was far more than that.
 

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Does anyone pass like he did in the modern game? For me watching from the stands, I had this vivid memory of him whipping passes to feet/chest at speed almost effortlessly. I love Scholes but he never made it his own until Keane retired.
 

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Does anyone pass like he did in the modern game? For me watching from the stands, I had this vivid memory of him whipping passes to feet/chest at speed almost effortlessly. I love Scholes but he never made it his own until Keane retired.
Rooney said keane is the best passer he played with
 

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Love the way he tears into these kids for asking stupid questions, absolutely no mercy shown! :drool:

When I was a teenager I got to talk to Keano via the MUTV phone in show and what I decided to ask him about was what his career highlight was so far. Big mistake :lol: He sounded annoyed and went off on a tangent about how you should neverlook back etc :keano:
 

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Just came across a this from RTE 1997 on Roy. Remember watching it years ago, not sure if it's been posted anywhere on here before. I think it's a good watch, might need subtitles for some of the Irish/Cork accents for anyone not familiar with them.

 

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This nonsense from City is the epitome of loving to dish it out but not being able to take it. They never stop with their attacks disguised as shit social media banter.
 

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Then Walker shits hinself for England proving Keane correct. Walker is having a shitshow of a season
 

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I think Keane should have apologised to Walker by now. I enjoy Keane's no nonsense and passionate punditry, but if he oversteps the mark then he should be able to man up and admit he perhaps went too far.
If Sounness or Jamie Redknapp called Maguire an idiot, then there'd be outrage even if Man Utd fans agreed.
 

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I think Keane should have apologised to Walker by now. I enjoy Keane's no nonsense and passionate punditry, but if he oversteps the mark then he should be able to man up and admit he perhaps went too far.
If Sounness or Jamie Redknapp called Maguire an idiot, then there'd be outrage even if Man Utd fans agreed.
Apologised? Seriously?

Keane pretty much called Maguire an idiot in the Spurs game and said he'd be throwing punches at De Gea.

He's a pundit that is paid to provide his opinion on the game and the players in it. His opinion was that Walker was an idiot. He was right.
 

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I think Keane should have apologised to Walker by now. I enjoy Keane's no nonsense and passionate punditry, but if he oversteps the mark then he should be able to man up and admit he perhaps went too far.
If Sounness or Jamie Redknapp called Maguire an idiot, then there'd be outrage even if Man Utd fans agreed.
It's not that bad really, if footballers get offended by it then they are far to sensitive...

Wasn't Walker caught haven't escorts round his house during the 1st lockdown as well? I'd say he deserves to be called an idiot...
 

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Apologised? Seriously?

Keane pretty much called Maguire an idiot in the Spurs game and said he'd be throwing punches at De Gea.

He's a pundit that is paid to provide his opinion on the game and the players in it. His opinion was that Walker was an idiot. He was right.
Ian Wright saying he'd swing punches at Ozil for being lazy would be perfectly okay.

Calling a player from a rival team, who is having a decent season, an idiot is crossing the line.
 

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Ian Wright saying he'd swing punches at Ozil for being lazy would be perfectly okay.

Calling a player from a rival team, who is having a decent season, an idiot is crossing the line.
I don't agree. Keane isn't employed by or representing United and neither is Wright by Arsenal.

From a pundit's perspective, it shouldn't matter at all what club a player plays for or what country they're from. In fact, one of the worst aspects of UK punditry is the lack of criticism for the English boys while slating Johnny Foreigner instead.

If calling someone an idiot is crossing a line these days, Roy won't have a long career on Sky!
 

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People taking things he says was too literally. The phrase "swinging punches" is just an expression, like "I'll kill ya", you don't actually mean it, it's an expression of anger. For yrs we sang about Vidic "he'll fcking murder ya", should we say sorry of course not. Could Keano be more refined, hell yeah, but then he wouldn't be the man he is, he'd be another robot spouting cliches like Owen. He is what he is. You don't like him, fine, I don't sometimes either, but don't take everything he says so literal.
 

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Goosebumps.

The music, the clips, the words from our legends all blend together in this beauty.