Its taking out of context. Listen to it yourself.
Ruben Amorim | 2025-26
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Its taking out of context. Listen to it yourself.
I’ve not seen it either but I did read the quotes earlier and that was my reading of it as well.
"Sign for us, we will suffer, but sign for us"
Edit: Apparently that was out of context.
Regardless: Colossal question marks around everything. Not sure anyone has a real feel of how good we are shaping up to be yet
Edit: Apparently that was out of context.
Regardless: Colossal question marks around everything. Not sure anyone has a real feel of how good we are shaping up to be yet
"We are going to suffer, we have problems"... He wasn't talking about pre-season
Eh no. I watched the whole press conference he was specifically talking about team bonding and how having a good bond can get results when not playing well. In the middle of that answer he threw in the caveat "We are going to suffer, we have problems". It wasn't about injuries at all.
Yes, it’s stating the obvious but It’s smart on his part to publicly reiterate the fact it’s a World Cup year and these players need game time to ensure they get a place in their national team squad. When we’re hearing players are holding out for one particular club and turning down offers elsewhere it puts pressure on them to maybe think twice and start considering other options or risk potentially facing a lot of time on our bench and putting their chance of going to the World Cup in serious jeopardy.
At the end of season pitch speech he said „the good times are coming now“ - was this a lie?
Yes
No hes saying the season wont be full of momentous highs and when the lows come its good that they have strong morale in the squad to see them through
An indirect way to ask the club to spend more money. And it's not my fault if we are still shit next season. Can't see him lasting beyond Christmas anyway.
There is nothing wrong with what he said but he wasn't talking about injuries. His point is that even though things aren't perfect, he likes the spirit around the club from the players and staff, that's what he means by healthy.
The best thing about you guys trying to convince yourselves he didn't say what he said is that he'll say it again in the next press conference and the one after that and the one after that.
Yeah he's basically saying the bonding and spirit is important for when we do have bad moments. Its definitely not about pre season or injuries.
Guy looks 10 years older. Bags under his eyes like it's end of the season.
Sack gun sounds like a euphemism
Innocuous sporting cliche about bonding through adversity? Not on the cafe, here we shit our pants and cry into our agendas. Pathetic.
Shades of gray? Pep is possession fanatic, Klopp is geggenpressing. They didn’t suddenly become counter attacking etc. if you want to say Bielsa is more of a purist than Pep, then fine, but he’s very possession focused.
Vastly different? Please tell me what was vastly different from what they were doing previously?
Give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he just means things aren't perfect and they'll be some rough games but they'll get through it.
Not sure he's writing off the season yet.
Not sure he's writing off the season yet.
He meant we have hit rock bottom. So anything better than the shit that was served last season was "good times"
Yes, thats where we are. This season will be about "its better than last yeat". Even if we end up aarount 10th (which is realistic), they will sell it as a success. The state of this club.
Has he ever offered anything else rather then suffering?
I think we finish top 6 without any other deals in if the manager finally does his job and starts getting performances. if we continue last seasons form and poor play I can't see him lasting beyond Halloween.
I cant see us getting anywhere near top 6 if we dont get at least 3 more players in
If we are suffering by Back To School Monday, he should go.
This James guy keeps stirring shit up the same way he did with Gyokeres.... youre not a professor of portugese lingo
Maybe it's a language and context thing so we should cut him some slack but the thing is that every fan is on such a short fuse with this 15th position finish that he has to hit the ground running.
Every Pre season game needs to count
Every Pre season game needs to count
Why do you expect us to get top 6? We finished 15th last season and were 8th the season before with an expected league place of 14th, conceding 20+ shots every week for months.
I don't think people have really wrapped their heads around this yet. We have been, both statistically and with the eye test, the 14/15th best team in the league for a full two years. The 8th place finish was a huge fluke and extremely flattering.
On a large body of evidence over the last two years, 14/15th is precisely where we should have been and so that's what happened last season.
I am optimistic that bringing in 2 of the league's best attackers will improve us more than our peers in the bottom half of the table. At a stretch, we might even be able to fumble our way into an EL place.
But we have an entire midfield to rebuild (Bruno has no role in a midfield 2), no goalscoring striker, no proven LWB option, and a particularly uninspiring GK.
So, for me, thinking that 'the manager doing their job' will suddenly move us from multiple years of being solidly bottom-half statistically into the top 6 is wishful thinking and unrealistic.
Personally I would be OK with an 8th place finish this season - if the eye test and stats actually support that outcome! I know it might not sound like it, but performances that actually deserve 8th place would certainly feel like a massive improvement on where we've been for the last two years and reflect significant progress.
And with Sancho and Casemiro finishing their contracts, we'll free up huge wages to take an aggressive transfer posture next summer to hopefully build on some momentum.
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Good post! I'm definitely intentionally a bit deluded and generally in a more positive mood at this time of year when we aren't being beaten every weekend and there's some hope around the place. I disagree though. We aren't the 15th best team in the league if everyone is fit and settled. We sorted the defenders last summer. We get a lot of the ball at home, we just don't use it well once it goes forward but having two lads who can beat a man and get a team turned around will be massive, top finishers too. It's very exciting in theory. 2 match winners. I think in that regard we've probably already changed the whole squad dynamic in one window. I too would like a great striker and a better goalie (and loads of deadly wonderkids!) who knows what else we will pick up though. I'm happy enough for now.
Really surprised you haven’t been promoted into the Mains with insight like yours.
You may be a new member but it sounds like you know the place well!
He's right to be fair. The suffer line was nothing major, he was basically saying it won't be plain sailing, and when we struggle it'll be good to have a team that's working together, hence it being mentioned on a question of team bonding.
Does anyone manager ever say they aren't going to have tough periods in a season?
Reading between the lines I think the suffering thing is a plea from him to the fans to keep backing him, he thought he would have men bought into the club (more than 2) as well as men out. The club have failed miserably.
Yes vastly different. You are not a purist because you keep some staples otherwise every manager is a purist. You are a purist when your m.o is to "impose" the entirety of a particular system regardless of the players at your disposal, a purist would also not switch his marking schemes the way guardiola has done for the entirety of his career and sometimes aggressively. Klopp went from an almost classic geggenpress in his early days to a possession heavy approach with Liverpool, he went from using fairly rigid roles to interchangeable roles, his use of width also changed. For Pep the only constant is the use of possession as a defensive scheme and ball playing goalkeepers, everything else relies on the players at his disposal.
Stop giving context and logic! It's better to yell and moan!
Agree with this. I've read that we're a good striker away from challenging for the title, which I think is so delusional. Even top 6 would be such a huge improvement next season, and is probably unrealistic to ask for. I think some people see last season as a one off unlucky blip, but I think that's just been the level we've been at, and a couple of signings and few months isn't going to suddenly catapult us towards the top end of the table. We have issues all over the pitch. We're a team closer to relegation level than top 6.
Except it's not out of context at all? I mean, positivity is fine but if you are going to tell fans to "do better" at least don't misconstruct what RA said yourself. People keep saying he meant about injuries or training when he really did not.
Please tell me these aren’t the quotes setting people off?