A winning spree of one in a row would be good.
Ruben Amorim | 2025-26
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One of the biggest issues we've had since SAF left is the lack of urgency/intensity in the side.
Different coaches, different players and it still, alarmingly, looks like they're out for a Sunday stroll.
Solve that and we'll be well on the way.
You can appreciate how Amorim feels about not following the gameplan, downright apathy and dreadful performances from very highly paid professional footballers - all of whom sometimes look like they were dragged out of a pub to play.
It's the top 3" that needs to be fixed and Amorim is right - swapping out another 22 players is not the solution.
How to fix this?
Different coaches, different players and it still, alarmingly, looks like they're out for a Sunday stroll.
Solve that and we'll be well on the way.
You can appreciate how Amorim feels about not following the gameplan, downright apathy and dreadful performances from very highly paid professional footballers - all of whom sometimes look like they were dragged out of a pub to play.
It's the top 3" that needs to be fixed and Amorim is right - swapping out another 22 players is not the solution.
How to fix this?
Not sure why he keeps digging holes for himself by giving TMI to the media with every interview. He then has to over explain himself to get out of the mess he created. He also has hurt every unwanted wingers potential value by saying they are not part of his plans, are a problem etc. Not sure what benefit is he getting from this? Is it worth seemingly the image he wants to portray to convey an honest approach in order to get the fans on side? Maybe it is a compensation for the lack of results?
If that were actually true in Amorim's case, I might agree with you.
Most likely waited until united had those 2-3 years where it looked like SAF was passed it and started bringing that up as a sign of it was obvious from seasons agoThey probaby did to be fair
What a mysterious and tempestuous enigma he is baring his volatile emotions for the world to see and constantly changing his mind
Wish he'd changed his mind every now and then about his fecking formation.
Wish he'd changed his mind every now and then about his fecking formation.
If you are a player at the club or potential incoming new signing/transfer target & hearing your current/potential new manger saying “sometimes I hate my players, sometimes I want to quit”, it doesn’t exactly instil confidence nor belief in your manager/makes you think twice about joining & working under this manager.
If he does not want to be here then just go.
If he does not want to be here then just go.
I thought he came across well today. Humble, honest and straight up. Looked well. But, this is why he’s well liked - because we can relate to him being a decent human being we all like that.
But his record is shite. Beyond shite. And no matter how well he comes across, he is still the worst performing manager in United’s history. We can’t and should over look this because he’s a good guy.
Nothing will change and come 5pm tomorrow the fanbase will still be calling for him to go because the performance will be rinse and repeat of what we’ve had since he joined.
But his record is shite. Beyond shite. And no matter how well he comes across, he is still the worst performing manager in United’s history. We can’t and should over look this because he’s a good guy.
Nothing will change and come 5pm tomorrow the fanbase will still be calling for him to go because the performance will be rinse and repeat of what we’ve had since he joined.
But he always projected strength, never weaknesses, always on the front foot.
Again anyone would feel terrible and downtrodden were they in amorim's shoes but the reality of our landscape with the media and all it entails is that showing even the tiniest semblance of vulnerability will let hell loose in the media, doubly so when we're in such dire straits and they're smelling blood.
I'm sure his convos with the players behind closed doors are even more direct than this. We're just accustomed to the norm of managers making dry, unimaginative comments during their interviews that the moment one speaks from the heart, it feels a bit odd that someone is being publicly candid.
One thing my friend who is a sporting fan has said is that one of Amorim’s strengths at Sporting was being able to galvanize the squad, but his message doesn’t come across well in English.
I wonder how much something like this affects a managers ability to coach the team.
Likely just one of many many reasons why we are so shite
I wonder how much something like this affects a managers ability to coach the team.
Likely just one of many many reasons why we are so shite
That's easier done when you're winning. Its also not Amorim's personality (or job) to mimic Fergie's communication style imo. He's a very good communicator in his own right.
Ole is a club legend and liked more than any other manager since SAF but when it came down to it, he was binned no different than any other manager. I expect nothing less when it comes to Ruben.
but isn't the payoff supposed to be wild and crazy sexual shenanigans!
Ole was afforded as much time as LVG, Mourinho and co, when it came to giving them time. The club is very generous with this. Amorim has had a lot of time and shown zero progression on any footballing metric. He should be out of the door today.
What if he was clawing at his own head like best manager in world Pep does?
A football manager is very different to your manager. In the same way you're very different to a footballer.
half the win rate of Moyes FFS
This is what it all comes down to really, isn't it? Press conferences, interviews, etc. are the window dressing. The output on the pitch speaks much more than any words he can come up with.
Wish we could still do that. Half of today's clickbait media would be on the ban list.
He is such a likeable guy and you want him to succeed. But lose against Burnley and he is a dead man walking. No matter how nice, open and honest he is. He has to get results now because his almost 1 year at United is pathetic so far.
I have a hard time believing that the majority calling Amorim bi-polar, mentally unstable or similar are genuine United supporters.
I have been an engaged supporter since the early seventies, been reading Redcafe since 2001 and probably seen all the highs and the lows but right now I just feel worries and depressing feelings. Way too often my mood is a reflection of our results to my wife’s strong dislike.
Amorim probably atm hasn’t what it takes to handle everything on his plate but i can’t say I dislike him, far from it, there’re more players that I can’t stand than a manager that has authentic passion and shows their inner feelings.
Stay or go, I will never condemn those who care and put their soul and heart in to what they do.
I have been an engaged supporter since the early seventies, been reading Redcafe since 2001 and probably seen all the highs and the lows but right now I just feel worries and depressing feelings. Way too often my mood is a reflection of our results to my wife’s strong dislike.
Amorim probably atm hasn’t what it takes to handle everything on his plate but i can’t say I dislike him, far from it, there’re more players that I can’t stand than a manager that has authentic passion and shows their inner feelings.
Stay or go, I will never condemn those who care and put their soul and heart in to what they do.
Ruben isn't even hot. He fecking got us to 15th place and he got kicked out by Grimsby. He is a Bella Ramsay/De Vito whom we are treating as if he's Scarlett Johansson/Brad Pitt
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Absolutely. Score goals, accrue points, win games. If you do these three, every player you previously thought was inadequate suddenly seem very good.
It won't compare to the feats of Leicester City going from bottom of the PL to winning it 18 months later
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I personally don't get the really liking him bit. Sure he is a fine person but also sure ten hag was too.
Had enough of his headlines, he is the exact opposite of what we need at united he fans the flames of the media's lust for united sensationalism and his careless way with words has regularly damaged the clubs interest including devaluing garnacho. It must get tiring for players to hear this stuff
Well...that happens all the time in all walks of life (with varying degrees of success!).
But - sure - to be clear, I'm not talking about actually implementing someone else's detailed plan (for how United should set up on the pitch on a weekly basis).
What I have in mind is the implementation of an overall, long-term strategy - in which the "head coach" is one cog in a larger machinery, so to speak.
The more he talks the more its apparent he's not ready for this job.
Which is why someone needs to tell him to only give one liner lip service to the media. He gives a 10 line explanation for every question. It is not necessary. The media guys are not his friends. Will never be.
Fair enough. I get your points, but not sure about the ETH bit. To me, he came across very arrogant, rude and bland as feck. Totally unlikeable persona.
Yep, I don't think that is bad advice at this stage. Don't see who he is helping currently.
100 per cent.
Amorim has lost me but the easy way to make me eat humble pie: start winning football matches.
Football fans, myself included, are fickle. After summer 2008 I was done with Ronaldo. By time he was murdering Arsenal in the Champions League I was back fanboying.
If Amorim wins the next 18 league matches we'll all have to accept he's the man, right? Its that simple.
I haven't really been watching any punditry or pressers this season so far as I just turn it off at full time but from the snippets I have seen Amorim comes across as a guy that really cares and wants to do well for himself, the fans, the players and the club. It's different watching the games though as he won't make alterations to his tactical set up to allow for the midfield deficiences and his in game management has been poor when opposition have started to get hold of a game so we are easy to play against and there is nothing that indicates he is going to change. He is also hamstrung by the fact that we have two feckin terrible goalies that will constantly cost us points, maybe Lammens is the answer but he is young and untested really. Hopefully he can get the better of Scott Parker tomorrow.
Let me clarify. I was referring to the fact he is a likable person but that should not be used as a conditional trait when compared to his record as the coach. He should have been out the door yesterday.
Sometimes this, sometimes that. On thing is sure. This 5-2-2-1 nonsens.
You obviously don't understand the difference between theory and reality, in theory there should never be a 'giant-killing' in football, a top-tier club should never be beaten by a lower-tier club, the reality is that it has happened since the dawn of football and has continued every year since
So there is no context. He said those quotes verbatim. They are accurate reporting such quotes.
I can’t grasp what is unacceptable about it?
He said those things, and he’s been quoted as saying them.
The big bad media shouldn’t be accurately quoting people. What’s the world coming to??
The only people who seem upset about the reporting of what he actually said are the Amorim fanboys.
I get your point but I think that the point was from a particular head coach. Though I have an example of a manager that started atrociously and turned things around, Deschamps with Monaco between 2001-2005.
I dont think it's common to fluctuate in absolute extremes about your job within days.
Well said. We’d all like the results to be better than they have been and that’s what it comes down to at the end of the day. Amorim knows this as well which is why he’s so frustrated.
I mean who doesn’t hate our players at times ? More like most of the time tbh. And kids, forget it. Any and all of them at times, including mine.
Having watched the whole presser now I actually found it endearing. Entertaining for sure and we could certainly do with a bit of that at the moment.