Ruben Amorim | 2025-26

Skills said:
feck no.
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He was our best manager post-Fergie.

We need some stability, someone who can handle the level required.

We have all been crying out for a young, promising manager but the last two have set us back.

If there are better options out there then fine but I think he would be a better shout than most.
 
I'm at peace with it, he will be gone in the next month. He is unable to win two games in a row. I would imagine the hierarchy are now sounding out potential replacements.
 
sugar_kane said:
Today Danny Murphy is saying it's the players fault not the system. Four years ago him and the rest of his press buddies were advocating for sacking Ole who was doing far better. That says all you need to know.
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Oh Danny Murphy will absolutely be loving this. He will be wanting Amorim to stay forever
 
Woodzy said:
He was our best manager post-Fergie.

We need some stability, someone who can handle the level required.

We have all been crying out for a young, promising manager but the last two have set us back.

If there are better options out there then fine but I think he would be a better shout than most.
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Nah he's a cnut. I'd rather see Benitez on the touchline before him again.
 
Van Piorsing said:
Do you trust our board will make a correct appointment ?
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No but here's the truth of football that many seem to miss. 99% of the time no club really knows what they're doing when they appoint a new manager. No matter the process you use to identify a new coach, no one can really tell how well soemone will do with a certain squad/club/league until they're actually in the job. Sometimes you have to cycle through a few managers until you land on one that is a good fit. United have to get better at determining early on if a manager is the right fit or not. Because post SAF, we just seem to hang onto every manager for far too long and it's got wrose under INEOS. Because I assume we are still hoping one blossoms into Fergie mk2 and at this stage we've wasted years and billions indulging failing managers.

I don't think I'd sack Amorim just yet but I do hope the club sit him down in the near future and make it clear to him he doesn't have an infinite amount of time to turn this around. I'd be suggesting to him that he try new things because what he's currently doing is going nowhere. I've watched how he's set this team up for 10 months now, his formation doesn't work with these players in this league. I sincerely hope his ego isn't that big that he won't change it in the hope of lumbering to another window hoping more new signings will fix it, tanking yet another season in the process. This club can't afford another season outside the top 4-6, the fact we are even considering finishing in the top 6 as a good thing highlights the new lows backing failing managers for too long has taken us to.
 
We need Ole back.

A more settled team, one without the circus of Ronaldo or Rashford... That's for me
 
KiD MoYeS said:
I'm at peace with it, he will be gone in the next month. He is unable to win two games in a row. I would imagine the hierarchy are now sounding out potential replacements.
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Agree. Does anyone really see him lasting to the end of the year? We would need to start winning consecutive games, and how will that happen, when we are this shit?

Still, the upper hierarchy needs to (again) take a huge part of the blame for this situation. Why did we hire a manager who is this dogmatically married to a system that fitted the squad so terribly? And regardless of system and manager, why have we again failed to sign a quality midfielder?
 
Unfortunately we missed the boat on a truly world class manager who would have taken us back to the top when Ancelotti left for the Brazil job.

We should have been all over that.
 
groovyalbert said:
Think we are firmly in the pride before the fall period with Amorim. The board don't want to admit they got it badly wrong with him - the optics would be terrible and Ineos would be permanently tied to the previous Glazer regime. It would honestly be ETH.2 after being backed so heavily in the summer.

Amorim is so rigidly tied to a system that has absolutely no place at this club, with this squad or in this league that he would rather be sacked than try something new. His arrogance hit new levels yesterday with his comments about suffering more than fans. I used to think he was likeable, he's becoming worse than sinking Jose.

Please please just call off this utter failure of an experiment before we are in another relegation battle. Any manager in the league would do better right now, and any of our post-SAF managers would be preferable. 25% win rate in the league after nearly a season's worth of games. Over 50% of those games have been defeats and we probably should have lost more. Kindly and quickly feck off.
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I mean, the optics with him in charge RIGHT NOW are terrible.
 
Chip said:
Real Madrid have had 8 permanent managers (including 2x Zidane) since SAF left - we have had 6. They have won 27 trophies, we have won 7 trophies (counting Community Shields and Super Cups). I haven't looked up the likes of Barcelona and Chelsea, but I'm pretty sure the picture is the same - more managers, but more trophies than us.

If anything is wrong with our strategy it is giving underperforming managers too much time and throwing season after season down the drain.
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Indeed, we need to let go of the romantic notion that giving a manager just enough time will transform them into another Fergie. It won't and that's exactly what we've been doing because we give managers way more time than any other big club would. Chelsea have had 7-8 permanent managers in the same period we've had 6 from 2013. And they've been a lot more successful than us in that period so had less reasons to sack their managers.
 
Flying_Heckfish said:
Sure, we need to be more ruthless.

What we can't do though is have a similar drop as we saw from EtH to Amorim, because we'll be in the Championship.
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Obviously if possible. But nothing is guaranteed as we've seen. But what we really need to do and hopefully are doing now is to figure out how we want to play and stick with it throughout the club so if we do sack the next guy we don't need a 300m rebuild.
 
Our one win this season came from a 97th minute penalty, it's not good enough. He's had enough time to show us what he can do yet there's little sign that things can get better.

It's over
 
LukeTheRed said:
When he first came into the club we were told he was a ‘great communicator’

Watch his interview on Sky and tell me that’s a great communicator - it was worse than ETH interviews.

His responses to quite valid questions from the sky reporter regarding us being outnumbered all the time in midfield made zero sense.
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He talks absolute nonsense, but he does it with a smile.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Ok so Amorim has a 20 odd % win rate, well I don't want to replace that with someone who will have a 30 odd % win rate.

Replacing someone doing terribly, with someone who will just do badly is not a good idea imo.
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I'd bite your bloody hand off right now for a 30% win rate
 
Widow said:
Our one win this season came from a 97th minute penalty, it's not good enough. He's had enough time to show us what he can do yet there's little sign that things can get better.

It's over
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Any game he has won in the last six months, we have either been awarded a penalty or the opposition have had a player sent off. It is literally the only way we can win games.
 
Bring in Jose as interim to steady the ship
FrankDrebin said:
Jose is not stable. He's anything but.
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Jose reminds me of jack Nicholson in one flew over the cuckoos nest. I’d still take him on an interim basis to steady the ship and he loves United. Proven premier league manager. I’d love to see the luck on Luke Shaws face as well if he arrived. Another player who needs to be moved on. May as well sack Amorim now instead of delaying the inevitable. I think it’s going to be after the Liverpool game but absolutely no point in keeping him now.
 
Woodzy said:
He was our best manager post-Fergie.

We need some stability, someone who can handle the level required.

We have all been crying out for a young, promising manager but the last two have set us back.

If there are better options out there then fine but I think he would be a better shout than most.
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Mourinho is well past it. He would be a disaster.
 
LukeTheRed said:
When he first came into the club we were told he was a ‘great communicator’

Watch his interview on Sky and tell me that’s a great communicator - it was worse than ETH interviews.

His responses to quite valid questions from the sky reporter regarding us being outnumbered all the time in midfield made zero sense.
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The interviews become embarrassing, like he's openly admitting he doesn't know what to do to improve us, change the situation, only "I won't change" mantra.

It's now couple of times he hinted at facing the sack/walking.

Surely the players are losing faith in him.
 
His rigidity and inflexibility is his undoing.
All the great managers adapt for a win. Sometimes you gotta mix it up. We are so very very predictable.
 
LordSpud said:
We need Ole back.

A more settled team, one without the circus of Ronaldo or Rashford... That's for me
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We really don't. As a club and fanbase we need to stop dwelling on the past. Bringing back previous managers is not the answer. We need to look forward.
 
red_de_pologne said:
The interviews become embarrassing, like he's openly admitting he doesn't know what to do to improve us, change the situation, only "I won't change" mantra.

It's now couple of times he hinted at facing the sack/walking.

Surely the players are losing faith in him.
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Not yet they are playing for him but it wont be long. Every man and his dog can now see the manager is the issue. The players will down tools shortly.
 
You see this in finance and business often. A set of circumstances confluenced to create an environment where someone became succesful. They try to repeat what they did over and over in the hope that success will be repeated - it hardly ever does because they cannot separate the circumstances that conspired to create their success from the belief that it was their own choices and decisions that created it.

It's a mix of hindsight bias and confirmation bias for Amorim.
 
stevoc said:
Indeed, we need to let go of the romantic notion that giving a manager just enough time will transform them into another Fergie. It won't and that's exactly what we've been doing because we give managers way more time than any other big club would. Chelsea have had 7-8 permanent managers in the same period we've had 6 from 2013. And they've been a lot more successful than us in that period so had less reasons to sack their managers.
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Exactly what I've been saying for years. I believe the main reason we're in the state we're in is because we've always waited too long and inevitably we have to right off more than one season. It's always 2 or 3 per manager because we're waiting for them to transform into Fergie if we give them just a bit more time.
 
red_de_pologne said:
The interviews become embarrassing, like he's openly admitting he doesn't know what to do to improve us, change the situation, only "I won't change" mantra.

It's now couple of times he hinted at facing the sack/walking.

Surely the players are losing faith in him.
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Difficult to imagine they’re not.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
I think more than anything else now he is coming across as a bit immature with his total lack of openess to changing his approach.

If does get sacked, and then goes on to another club and does well with a different setup then he'll probably look back on his United days and cringe a bit at the way he's been behaving.

He's got charisma, and I'm sure the players and fans could love him, but stubbornness, immaturity, and inexperience, isn't really a good mix when things are going wrong.
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He will be immature (in footballing terms at least) as he's vastly inexperienced as a manager and is learning as he goes, which is okay.

However, he needs results to back his stubbornness up and he isn't going to get them here.
 
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