Ruben Amorim | 2025-26

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"bad" apples gone
new attacking front 3
full preseason
no injury problem
no Europe distraction

all his excuses are gone, can we just conclude that he is not good enough for the job?
 
They criticized the choice when it was made official
Did they? Think few knew much about him. His name was barely mentioned as a candidate in the months after Klopp announced his departure.

The fans obviously wanted the shiniest object in Alonso. Some even wanted Amorim (what a parallel universe that would be).
 
This is the strangest thing about him for me. If he had been a manager for 20 odd years then fair enough, he might be stuck in his ways. But he's so young and has achieved not a lot, so why is he so dead set on not being flexible? Surely this is the time in your career where you experiment and try new things?
Hubris. No other explanation
 
Did they? Think few knew much about him. His name was barely mentioned as a candidate in the months after Klopp announced his departure.

The fans obviously wanted the shiniest object in Alonso. Some even wanted Amorim (what a parallel universe that would be).
Some parallels were drawn with ETH. Like you said, many of them were dead cert it was Alonso so Slot seemed like an underwhelming alternative
 
I swear I read a quote somewhere where he said that he’ll only change his formation IF & when the players get this system down to a tee and know what their roles are, which is a bit backwards.

I can kind of see his mindset because in this system it’s easy to interchange in-game into other systems.

But it’s not currently working with the players he has, why not change to the 4-4-2 diamond we used in pre-season for now and then in Jan if we get a midfielder then change back to the 3-4-3 that he wants to use.
 
Thing is, you can talk about tactics 24/7. Whether you like some particular formation or not. But eventually it has to come down to performance and results - the latter is horrible. As it comes down to performance, I can't recall the last time we played a 11 vs 11 game where on the commentary or yourself, you see United controlling the whole game such as it seems like we have 1 more player on the pitch compared to the opponent.

Whether it has been us playing in the cups vs lower league sides or Liverpool or City away - it seems like we have chasing the game or fighting for the ball all the time. We have no control over the pace of the game and it causes us to make invidual errors more, because players are out of position or chasing shadows.

You have to control & slow down the game more to have the control and patience.
 
And I was freaking loving it when I heard it as well. :lol: :lol: Hiring a nobody like Slot, with Klopp gone.
Same for me, it just shows that fans, if they cannot come up with a viable options for a new manager, doesn't mean there aren't competent people at the head of football who couldn't either.
 
The owners who won't get rid because they like him on a personal level.

The board seem like the sort of negligent cnuts that haven't even started sounding out contingency plans yet.
Yes, the people above him are probably an even bigger issue that he is, as they basically created the issue with him. The time to fire him was last year after the final.

I reckon we will let this season falter beyond salvation and will then let him go when things can no longer be improved. Preferably after Iraola, Glasner and every potentially good choice are already signed by different clubs.
 
There's a large body of evidence that INEOS are absolute clowns with no pedigree in running a top club. Keeping Amorim even after what we have witnessed only adds to the growing list.
 
This is the strangest thing about him for me. If he had been a manager for 20 odd years then fair enough, he might be stuck in his ways. But he's so young and has achieved not a lot, so why is he so dead set on not being flexible? Surely this is the time in your career where you experiment and try new things?
Absolutely. You try and fail than not try at all.
 
How is it possible this guy hasn't been sacked yet.
Ineos have talked the big talk but have somehow managed to be a downgrade on Woodward.
 
I say there giving him till the Liverpool game. I’d be very surprised if we got more than four points against Chelsea Brentford and Sunderland and then get battered by Liverpool
 
Same for me, it just shows that fans, if they cannot come up with a viable options for a new manager, doesn't mean there aren't competent people at the head of football who couldn't either.

As long as it's not Southgate, and our other failed ex-managers, I'll support whoever they appoint.
 
Was Berrada sent to the club by City on a sabotage mission?
Mate, don't make me spiral into a paranoid conspiracy territory.

I already have my doubts. Amorim was supposedly being spoken about as Pep's successor in the future. Ronaldo was on the verge of signing for City before we re-signed him, City were supposedly in for Alexis Sanchez and Fred.

Need I say more? :)
 
Mate, don't make me spiral into a paranoid conspiracy territory.

I already have my doubts. Amorim was supposedly being spoken about as Pep's successor in the future. Ronaldo was on the verge of signing for City before we re-signed him, City were supposedly in for Alexis Sanchez and Fred.

Need I say more? :)
Weren't they also interested in Maguire :eek: ?
 
He got the line up wrong. The first half it was evident that amad was not working and Shaw was a walking accident, he should have reshuffled the pack and subbed Shaw off for Mainoo.

Instead, he went with the same shite line up into the second half and Shaw was at fault again for the next two goals.

I understand that management is tough, but glaring issues are not being addressed and even an idiot could have foresaw that we were on a hiding to nothing with playing the same team.
One of his many problems is that he lacks flexibility, even within the acceptance that he has to play 3 at the back. Yesterday, he should've gone for a 3-5-2 because of Mount and Cunha's absence. This would've packed the midfield without the need to move another player out of position.
 

I think everyone but top reds and the United board find it incredible.

His job would be under threat if he were at any other club in the league. But United? Nah, we've gotta do things differently because we're not like the other kneejerk clubs who want to be successful. We have a long term plan. It's a shit plan that's failing miserably. But it's long term, and that's what matters
 
I think everyone but top reds and the United board find it incredible.

His job would be under threat if he were at any other club in the league. But United? Nah, we've gotta do things differently because we're not like the other kneejerk clubs who want to be successful. We have a long term plan. It's a shit plan that's failing miserably. But it's long term, and that's what matters
Ye he might be Fergie one day init
 
'Amorim retains the support of the United hierarchy but those who know him find it 'incredible' his role is not under threat...'

Can see this as:

  • the infamous 'chairman kiss of death' in which a manager is publicly backed and soon privately sacked
  • A method of controlling the leaks which atrophied ten Hag's succession in 2024.
  • Both

Lose to Chelsea on Saturday and I can see his position being untenable. Win and it's 'a process' and we need to be patient etc etc.

I actually hope we do not draw. Drawing the game means what we do next is disputable, and therefore we need another match to decide.

Indecision does for me. I'd rather make a bad decision even if I regret it later!
 
How is it possible this guy hasn't been sacked yet.
Ineos have talked the big talk but have somehow managed to be a downgrade on Woodward.

Say what you will about Woodward, but he absolutely would have got rid of this chancer after the Europa League final.
 
Have to say it also annoyed me Amorim saying he is suffering more than us fans are. feck off, you have the power to change it and are refusing to do so. You are getting paid millions to fail managing the club we love, yet when asked to send a message to the fans you try saying that you're suffering more than we are. feck right off.
 
This is the strangest thing about him for me. If he had been a manager for 20 odd years then fair enough, he might be stuck in his ways. But he's so young and has achieved not a lot, so why is he so dead set on not being flexible? Surely this is the time in your career where you experiment and try new things?

In one way its admirable. He's decided he's going out on his shield trying to play his way. The other way is that it's bloody stupid as it obviously isn't working, whether that be players unable to play that way he wants or him being unable to get his ideas across.

I know which way I'm leaning.
 
Once again this club will dance around the fact they've made another catastrophic managerial blunder, and wait until the season is lost until they even begin to admit it. How many times must we watch this movie? Cause I'm fecking tired of it.
 
Just sack him , get another Sap in so he can get destroyed by all and sundry.
Anybody got names of who to come in... they haven't got long . 3 to 4 weeks ..
 
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: 6 years for "perhaps"!
I'm pretty confident you won't find takes so much detached from reality in any other fanbase when it comes to managers. At every other club they are expected to work with what they have from the get go. They are expected to get results ASAP. Amorim's own replacement was sacked within weeks. But nope, we need a multi year plan with every manager. He needs to be given time and x transfer windows to maybe show something.
 
He has to have kompromat on the leadership. This is incredible
To be fair the club done the same for Ole and ETH. Make it excruciating for everyone until the season is wasted. Theyre busy counting the money that can be made off a new stadium
 
He is saying what every sane United fans is, this is madness.

United hiearchy are more fearful of being proven wrong by getting rid of him and would rather keep him on in the hope he comes good to save their own reputations.

We are still run by amateurs.

A well run club would hold their hand up and say an error was made and correct it quickly by sacking him a few months back.
 
The ownership shouldn’t be afraid of looking stupid when sacking him. Those win stats speak for themselves. Nobody has a crystal ball for forecasting how well a manager is going to do when they’re appointed. Some appointments look great on paper like transfers but the reality can be very different.

If the head coach/manager sucks, he goes and we move onto the next one. If you get beat by a League 2 team with all your big hitters at your disposal then what chance have you got against any Premier League team?
 
You know that things are really bad when you agree with people like Jonathan Wilson.

Apart from the fact that every player can also play other formations. So a bit of a odd take to claim each of these players is a write off.

Maybe Maguire would struggle to play 2 at the back these days, and Dorgu would have to adapt to leftback, and Heaven isn't quite as good in a 2 (though played it at Arsenal) but otherwise everyone else is pretty comfortable in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1
 
The Bournemouth coach or even Emery would have a field day with this squad I reckon
 
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