Ruben Amorim | 2025-26

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Amad is not good at defending and lacks the engine. Dorgu needs to improve by a lot. Our WBs are not top 5 material.

Amad’s engine is fine and it’s more important for at least one of the wingbacks to be playing like a winger. That will be Amad’s role. He showed a good willingness to track back when he played that position last year and he will only grow into it. People can’t complain about a defensive ‘5 at the back system’ and then also complain that an attacking wingback is too attacking.
 
Was our only chance of a decent window. We’re proper skint and was relying on that money. I’m starting to feel like not selling Bruno for 100m will cost us a decent rebuild
I still think we will have a decent window, yes Bruno would of given us a huge amount of money to spend, but we would still have an issue of offloading those 5.

I think we will bring in 4 we just are looking to get sales out before, we go on and sign 2/3 quite quickly.
 
The season we win the PL title against all odd and start believing in the 3-4-2-1 Amorim-ball. Lets go!!! :devil:
If this prediction comes true, can you pick out the lottery numbers for me please mate :-)
 
I dont write here up normally as I like to read different opinions as you gain lot of info(both good and bad). From what I saw last year the issues are

1. We didn't score enough
2. We created enough chances - we did a lot and our forward line was worse than hilariously bad in finishing them
3. Defence was ok'ish - Remember they were mostly kids(yoro - heaven)
4. GoalKeeping was bad - plain and simple no explanation needed.
5. Every time I saw the game, it always felt that we were playing with 9 men and not 11 and that made it feel like the opponent was playing with 13 men against our 9. Because the opponents defense has nothing to fear and even they can let our front 3 roam around freely with the ball at their feet as they didn't do much.
6. Midfiled was ok'ish.

To address the glaring issue we wanted quality forwards, which is what we needed before the start of the previous season as well and now we are addressing that. Garnacho was bad really really bad and Cunha from last season and before is 5 times the player Garnacho is with just the decision making and Strength. Attitude wise iam not sold on either of them. Hopefully we will wrap up Mbeumo. Just with these 2 signings the defenders and to an extent midfield has to take a step back unlike when they played against Garnacho + Rasmus + Bruno on the right wing(this is atrocious).

Above point means we should not the same amount of pressure in our MF and Defense, that means less shots for the keeper to tackle(pun intended). Yes MF and WingBacks are needed, but with our financial positions its not going to happen. But what iam worried is we aren't linked with any players in that posistion, if we think only proven players were to be signed then even Bruno was a gamble when we bought him. There are players out there who can clearly improve us and not sure why we aren't looking at them for club of size with the scouting network we have.

But i do feel we are going in the right direction, but very slowly I would like us to be more precise and faster in our approach.
Did we really create enough chances? Wasn't our xG even lower than under EtH?
 
I dont write here up normally as I like to read different opinions as you gain lot of info(both good and bad). From what I saw last year the issues are

1. We didn't score enough
2. We created enough chances - we did a lot and our forward line was worse than hilariously bad in finishing them
3. Defence was ok'ish - Remember they were mostly kids(yoro - heaven)
4. GoalKeeping was bad - plain and simple no explanation needed.
5. Every time I saw the game, it always felt that we were playing with 9 men and not 11 and that made it feel like the opponent was playing with 13 men against our 9. Because the opponents defense has nothing to fear and even they can let our front 3 roam around freely with the ball at their feet as they didn't do much.
6. Midfiled was ok'ish.

To address the glaring issue we wanted quality forwards, which is what we needed before the start of the previous season as well and now we are addressing that. Garnacho was bad really really bad and Cunha from last season and before is 5 times the player Garnacho is with just the decision making and Strength. Attitude wise iam not sold on either of them. Hopefully we will wrap up Mbeumo. Just with these 2 signings the defenders and to an extent midfield has to take a step back unlike when they played against Garnacho + Rasmus + Bruno on the right wing(this is atrocious).

Above point means we should not the same amount of pressure in our MF and Defense, that means less shots for the keeper to tackle(pun intended). Yes MF and WingBacks are needed, but with our financial positions its not going to happen. But what iam worried is we aren't linked with any players in that posistion, if we think only proven players were to be signed then even Bruno was a gamble when we bought him. There are players out there who can clearly improve us and not sure why we aren't looking at them for club of size with the scouting network we have.

But i do feel we are going in the right direction, but very slowly I would like us to be more precise and faster in our approach.
Seems like a lot of fans believe this is what went wrong last season, striker couldn’t score and goalkeeper let in every shot

Far from the truth. We didn’t really create chances, our striker regressed in the managers hoofball tactics, build up is terrible and our goalkeeper (as terrible as he is) was nowhere near as bad as people are pretending



I don’t understand how people think better players fix this. He’s out of his depth as harsh as it sounds
 
Are we in a position to spend 60m on a backup or make our (second) best player backup?

It's not really an issue for now, but might become one mid season

So we should not sign anyone if that is the case... if you are convinced the manager is getting sacked mid season, why bother signing players this summer?
 
So we should not sign anyone if that is the case... if you are convinced the manager is getting sacked mid season, why bother signing players this summer?
The idea obviously is to balance signings across the squad. Piling up three 60m players on one position and having to rely on 10m+5m players on another would be a terrible idea.
 
Amad was our 2nd best player last season and he will be starting in one of the wingback positions, assuming Mbeumo signs. He is quality. Dorgu will only improve next season too
I agree Amad's probably our best option at RWB, but he only played there a handful of times last season. It's not a guarantee it works out.

Dorgu looked ok last season and he has potential, but at the moment that's all it is, potential. None of us know for sure if he's going to work out. I just think it's a bit mad that an unproven 20 year old is our only real option for such an important position.
 
The idea obviously is to balance signings across the squad. Piling up three 60m players on one position and having to rely on 10m+5m players on another would be a terrible idea.

I'm sorry who are these 3 60m players we are buying this summer for 1 position?

From my understanding, we got Cunha for Left 10 and want Mbuemo for right 10.
 
I'm sorry who are these 3 60m players we are buying this summer for 1 position?

From my understanding, we got Cunha for Left 10 and want Mbuemo for right 10.

Yeah, Amorim isn’t going to be choosing which one to play, if they are both fit. They’ll clearly both play.
 
Amad was our 2nd best player last season and he will be starting in one of the wingback positions, assuming Mbeumo signs. He is quality. Dorgu will only improve next season too

I think both of those statements have some quite serious assumptions built in, that could easily be wrong.

Dorgu could easily have a ‘second season dip’, for a start. No guarantees that the only way is up. And Amad, talented as he is, has not fully been tested as a wingback yet. Amorim could well play him as a right-sided 10 far more often than he plays him as a right wing back.
 
Amorim definitely deserves criticism for majority of the games we played last year, but he didn't put together the worst forward line I have seen in my 30 years of watching this team.
That is a very fair comment.
 
I think both of those statements have some quite serious assumptions built in, that could easily be wrong.

Dorgu could easily have a ‘second season dip’, for a start. No guarantees that the only way is up. And Amad, talented as he is, has not fully been tested as a wingback yet. Amorim could well play him as a right-sided 10 far more often than he plays him as a right wing back.
Not sure how much room is there for a dip.
 
Amad’s engine is fine and it’s more important for at least one of the wingbacks to be playing like a winger. That will be Amad’s role. He showed a good willingness to track back when he played that position last year and he will only grow into it. People can’t complain about a defensive ‘5 at the back system’ and then also complain that an attacking wingback is too attacking.

I have zero faith in Amad playing WB against any of the top 7 teams, they will have a field day down that side it's fanciful to think anything else, yeah Amad did ok at WB in what 4 or 5 games but every time we played someone decent he brought Dalot back in
 
I have zero faith in Amad playing WB against any of the top 7 teams, they will have a field day down that side it's fanciful to think anything else, yeah Amad did ok at WB in what 4 or 5 games but every time we played someone decent he brought Dalot back in
Playing someone decent or not, when Dalot was fit he played. Don't really expect that to change
 
I have zero faith in Amad playing WB against any of the top 7 teams, they will have a field day down that side it's fanciful to think anything else, yeah Amad did ok at WB in what 4 or 5 games but every time we played someone decent he brought Dalot back in

Which games was Amad dropped for Dalot? Or was it the case that he was simply moved to the R10 position because we had no one else who could play that role effectively?
 
The Arsenal away game for sure, Amad didn't start in any position, the only time Amad started at WB was against bottom half clubs or Europa league

Arsenal away was a mid week game and Amorim talked about the need for rotation. Don’t think it’s necessarily fair to say he was ‘dropped’.

He’s young enough to continue to develop in the RWB role. Amorim clearly thinks he has the tools for it and he’s done this before with players.
 
And Amad, talented as he is, has not fully been tested as a wingback yet. Amorim could well play him as a right-sided 10 far more often than he plays him as a right wing back.

why is he signing Mbeumo then? You may see some games when he plays up top perhaps and Amad at R10 but clearly he is planning Amad at RWB. That’s where he started playing him too last year before it became clear he was needed further forward.
 
why is he signing Mbeumo then? You may see some games when he plays up top perhaps and Amad at R10 but clearly he is planning Amad at RWB. That’s where he started playing him too last year before it became clear he was needed further forward.
So you think he drops Dalot then?
 
Interesting. Can't see that going down well, seemed to be a main stay in his team last year.

He was a main stay in a team that wasn’t good enough. Ultimately, competition for places is good- it’s what we need, and what we’ve been largely missing. If that means Dalot plays fewer games so be it. It’ll be on him to force his way into the team.
 
He was a main stay in a team that wasn’t good enough. Ultimately, competition for places is good- it’s what we need, and what we’ve been largely missing. If that means Dalot plays fewer games so be it. It’ll be on him to force his way into the team.
Don't disagree. Just find it hard to believe the manager see's it the same way, Dalot seems to be a player that every manager we've had rates.
 
Don't disagree. Just find it hard to believe the manager see's it the same way, Dalot seems to be a player that every manager we've had rates.

I’m not sure what it is Amorim would be disagreeing with there, that genuine competition for places is a good thing? I don’t think any manager would ever disagree with that.

I have no doubt he’ll want some tactical flexibility in how we set up. He’ll likely see Dalot as an option in some games and Amad as an option in others. Both players will see plenty of minutes.
 
I’m not sure what it is Amorim would be disagreeing with there, that genuine competition for places is a good thing? I don’t think any manager would ever disagree with that.

I have no doubt he’ll want some tactical flexibility in how we set up. He’ll likely see Dalot as an option in some games and Amad as an option in others. Both players will see plenty of minutes.
This whole convo was about who was going to be our RWB and you was very confident Amorim was dropping Dalot for Amad, I was just saying I wasn't so sure he'd do it.

Edit: Just realised you wasn't who I was having the initial convo with :lol: but you get the drift anyway.
 
Yep. Nothing Amorim has done so far suggests that this is how he wants to line up

Except for playing Quenda at RWB for Sporting, playing Amad at RWB for us, and prioritising Mbeumo as a signing at right 10 over another WB.

And that’s not me saying Amad will start here against Arsenal - I think he will choose a somewhat more conservative line up for that particular game. But there is a lot indicate that Amorim likes to have a winger as a WB on one side of the pitch, and that Amad will play RWB a lot for us under him this season.
 
Seems like a lot of fans believe this is what went wrong last season, striker couldn’t score and goalkeeper let in every shot

Far from the truth. We didn’t really create chances, our striker regressed in the managers hoofball tactics, build up is terrible and our goalkeeper (as terrible as he is) was nowhere near as bad as people are pretending



I don’t understand how people think better players fix this. He’s out of his depth as harsh as it sounds


Agreed. We struggled to create chances as much as finish them. Want Ruben to succeed cause he’s a likeable guy but his setup doesn’t work unfortunately and we’ll probably be back to playing 4-2-3-1 by mid season (maybe with a new coach).
 
Yep. Nothing Amorim has done so far suggests that this is how he wants to line up
We've had Sporting fans telling us from the beginning that he was likely to start with more defensive wing backs before eventually using more attacking players there.
 
People are fooling themselves if they think Amorim won't start Dalot
Agreed. I don't think there will be a rotation system either (it almost never works that way in practice) - when fit, he'll start 90% of the time.
 
Seems like a lot of fans believe this is what went wrong last season, striker couldn’t score and goalkeeper let in every shot

Far from the truth. We didn’t really create chances, our striker regressed in the managers hoofball tactics, build up is terrible and our goalkeeper (as terrible as he is) was nowhere near as bad as people are pretending



I don’t understand how people think better players fix this. He’s out of his depth as harsh as it sounds

That image has been clear as day all season to be honest.
 
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