Ruben Amorim | 2025-26

red_de_pologne said:




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Pfft wake me up when we're in the Championship. :rolleyes:

Utterly ridiculous. We could have a half decent season with a coach who plays to our squad's strengths. Instead we will allow Amorim to burn the house down and then hope his replacement can make something out of ashes.

This club really has let the rot sink in.
 
pcaming said:
The funny thing about this situation, is that if this were any other club they would have sacked the manager already.

Maybe Jim is planning to buy the club at a discount after he relegates us.
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Fixed that for you
 
I'm not too concerned by these reports the club won't sack him. If results continue like this, they won't have a choice.

All they can do at the moment is offer him steadfast backing, saying anything else is pointless and will undermine him.
 
sp_cgb said:
It all ultimately points towards a relegation struggle and if that hasn't gotten all the alarm bells ringing yet, then some genuine incompetence amongst the decision makers has to become glaringly obvious.
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They know but they're desperately hoping that he can turn it around. We have been in relegation for many for about a year now but Ineos apparently still believe in Amorim waking up one morning and suddenly getting everything right.

smallred said:
What goodwill did Ineos have? Kept the Glazers at the club, sacked 100s of staff. Sold our best young players.. Destroyed the club.
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There was alot of hope when they came in. Hiring the right people, best in class, finally improving football operations after focusing on commercializing the club for so long and moving away from the Glazers pooe decision making. A year later and they're actually doing much worse than them. I've seen a few jokes and ironic posts on social media about fans missing Woodward because Amorim would already be back in Portugal id he was still around.
I agree with the second part of your post, ever since Ineos came in there's been a big change. The manager they hired is the furthest thing from what this club represents imo, he's just so out of place.
 
Sunny Jim said:
I dont even mind 3 at the back. I have an issue with non-existent midfiled. I would play 3 men there.
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I agree, the midfield is the obvious weak link. The only way you can fix that issue is in the transfer market, obviously we can’t do that right now but you can certainly mask the issue by packing it with bodies though. Playing Bruno, a number 10 alongside a past it Casemiro or Ugarte as the midfield 2 is suicidal.
 
Good lord

Sadly out of all the appointments since SAF this has been the worst his record is on par with a relegation. The system is shite, he can’t put 2 wins together and we’re yet again hovering around 14th position in the league

They’ll look terrible if they sack him he’s Ineos’ man who they backed over Ashworth but they’re going to take the club down he needs to go

There’s never been a more obvious sacking in PL history it’s got so bad people are laughing that he’s still in the job
 
This idea that he is completely safe unless results are bad is pretty funny considering his record so far. Some posters seem to be convincing themselves the club is set to give Amorim the entire season. It seems nothing was learned from the Ten Hag situation last year. He was so safe, until he wasn't. The board extended his contract and believed in his project until they didn't. Reality is if they were planning on sacking him soon they wouldn't tell anyone about it.
 
The fact that we haven't won 2 games back to back in nearly a season combined with the fact we're below 2 of the newly promoted teams should be ringing major alarm bells.
 
#07 said:


Everyone can see it. EVERYONE. Apart from Amorim. Not even the Pope can change his mind... :rolleyes:
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Is there any rebuttal from Amorim? I would love to see Amorim address RM's points. I mean, I know Amorim is not going to literally watch that video and dissect it, but is there a version of any article where Amorim addresses these same tactical switches and says why they either won't work or why his system is better?
 
I'm beginning to think Ineos know they get a massive discount to fully buy the Glazers out if we get relegated.
 
Guys it literally means nothing. Even in Orns quotes he says “results must improve”. If you leak the manager is at risk the players will down tools. It’s literally the only approach you can take logically.

A few more defeats and he is obviously gone. Hopefully we start winning and avoid that.
 
It’s always us, the fans that end up suffering.
That fecker managing us isn’t. He is getting paid millions.
The feckers upstairs don’t. They are getting all the profits just because they own the football club.

Its always the fans that have to suffer. Tragic, braindead football. The only good thing is that we get to suffer only once a week.
 
That Ornstein clip is painful. "There is a bit of improvement this season, however small" ... deary me. Shocking how far standards have fallen.
 
Wing Attack Plan R said:
Is there any rebuttal from Amorim? I would love to see Amorim address RM's points. I mean, I know Amorim is not going to literally watch that video and dissect it, but is there a version of any article where Amorim addresses these same tactical switches and says why they either won't work or why his system is better?
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It is nonsense really, because the biggest issue everyone laments - midfield, remains completely the same.

All he's done is push Bruno further forward and shunted the 10s wide. The idea we would magically be any better at defending one ball over the top, or set pieces, and more clinical by these changes, is a bit silly. I can't say I watched any further than the clip, but did he highlight any possible weaknesses of the setup he presented?
 
Can't believe our club manages to outdo itself in incompetence each year. At this stage, we’d probably be better off under full Glazer control, with David Moyes or EtH as manager, and Woody as CEO.

What are the club trying to achieve keeping a historically bad manager? Is this just a matter of stubbornness and unwillingness to admit failure across the board?
 
Means nothing really. My guess is they’re negotiating with the new guy and whoever his club may be, and the club are just stonewalling the media.
 
ayushreddevil9 said:
It’s always us, the fans that end up suffering.
That fecker managing us isn’t. He is getting paid millions.
The feckers upstairs don’t. They are getting all the profits just because they own the football club.

Its always the fans that have to suffer. Tragic, braindead football. The only good thing is that we get to suffer only once a week.
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Of course he's suffering. You can't believe he doesn't put a massive amount of time and effort into coaching, formulating game plans, attempts to motivate players, only to watch it fall to shit every weekend.

Sure he's getting paid millions, he's also not working a 9-5 and getting a shit tonne of abuse for it and at the moment it's also destroying his career.

This doesn't excuse the poor job he's currently doing, but I find it weird that people think he doesn't care just as much if he's successful or not, because he's getting paid?
 
Chairman Steve said:
Means nothing really. My guess is they’re negotiating with the new guy and whoever his club may be, and the club are just stonewalling the media.
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I think what they're saying is probably true and they're doing it deliberately to quell the perceived expectation on social media that there will definitely be a change in manager, which is incredibly disruptive and destabilizing in the lead up to each game.
 
Lash said:
It is nonsense really, because the biggest issue everyone laments - midfield, remains completely the same.

All he's done is push Bruno further forward and shunted the 10s wide. The idea we would magically be any better at defending one ball over the top, or set pieces, and more clinical by these changes, is a bit silly. I can't say I watched any further than the clip, but did he highlight any possible weaknesses of the setup he presented?
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Yep. A lot of waffle about playing Bruno further forward (obvious) but nothing to say how to solve our biggest problem which is conceding stupid goals. He says the keepers aren't good enough, midfielders don't have legs and CBs are a problem (agree on all). 4-3-3 doesn't magically solve that, most of the same issues will still be there.
 
Infestissumam said:
That Ornstein clip is painful. "There is a bit of improvement this season, however small" ... deary me. Shocking how far standards have fallen.
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All of said "improvement" is seemingly based on the xg etc. Who cares we're 14th, only won two games and out of the cup to Grismby? We've had the most shots!

It's ridiculous.
 
Robindinho said:
All of said "improvement" is seemingly based on the xg etc. Who cares we're 14th, only won two games and out of the cup to Grismby? We've had the most shots!

It's ridiculous.
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There is no improvement we are worse than where we were a year ago having had a good summer in the transfer window. Our standards are embarrassing
 
Red00012 said:
There is no improvement we are worse than where we were a year ago having had a good summer in the transfer window. Our standards are embarrassing
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Our summer signings only just started a game together in the 6th league fixture of the season. Its going to take a bit of time to get them each playing at the level needed as one coherent attack.
 
Leftback99 said:
Yep. A lot of waffle about playing Bruno further forward (obvious) but nothing to say how to solve our biggest problem which is conceding stupid goals. He says the keepers aren't good enough, midfielders don't have legs and CBs are a problem (agree on all). 4-3-3 doesn't magically solve that, most of the same issues will still be there.
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If anything, it probably exacerbates them. Maybe we'd score a few more though. It frustrates me after last season having Yoro improve and Heaven break through, De ligt playing and being fit - we are somehow worse off in the CB department this season.
 
it should be a nailed on cert.

and thats why he should have been sacked already. we cant this situation every week where the club just teeters on the brink.
 
leontas said:
Ornstein v Ducker.
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Ornstein and Romano v Ducker

Also, if you read Ducker's article, it cleverly doesn't attribute a source to the clickbaity headline. All it says is "Telegraph Sport understands Amorim is under acute pressure heading into a must-win game against the newly promoted Wearside club at Old Trafford".
 
Raoul said:
Ornstein and Romano v Ducker

Also, if you read Ducker's article, it cleverly doesn't attribute a source to the clickbaity headline. All it says is "Telegraph Sport understands Amorim is under acute pressure heading into a must-win game against the newly promoted Wearside club at Old Trafford".
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I know who I'd back in this, even if I obviously prefer the other stance
 
The players believe? Well, that certainly comes as a surprise to me, considering the utter shit they have served on a weekly basis. So, if it isn't lack of belief... then what is it?
 
gaffs said:
No one is every saying that his sysgtem worked when we won. We win because of suicidal decisions by our opposition. We have won two games this season - Burnley thanks to a mindless shirt pull on Amad resulting in a pen, and Robert Sanchez taking out Mbeumo in the third min of the game.

What was the game when the system worked and we won? Everton 4-0, 8 months ago? Maybe Bilbao away, where there was another sending off.
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We haven't won a game (where the opposition weren't down to 10, or via a penalty) since march.
 
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