Ruben Amorim | 2025-26

Our home form and performances have been good. In all 4 matches, including the defeat to Arsenal, we looked threatening and had genuine periods of dominance.

Away performances have been trash and we have not looked convincing at all. He needs to come up with something really special to get something out of Anfield. He needs to find a way to congest the midfield somehow with his 3 at the back formation. I reckon he will play Maz as the right wingback and ask him to cover the midfield spaces when Bruno joins the attack. If Maz is not ready, then Dalot will need to do the job, though I hope that’s not the case.
 
Bought himself couple of more weeks time thanks to the attacking players and playing a decent GK. The result against Liverpool will be crucial interms of building some sort of momentum.

Midfield two of Bruno and Cas will be eaten alive against their midfield.
 
Next 6 will make or break Amorin you feel. 4 difficult away games at Liverpool, spurs, palace and forest, Brighton at old Trafford who have won the last three at old Trafford, and Everton at home which will inevitably be a slog against a stubborn David Moyes side.

Hes holding on, done just enough so far this season to not get sacked. But ultimately his only victories have come at home against newly promoted sides and a side that had there keeper sent off very early.

Win three of the next 6 and don't get thrashed at anfield is probably the minimum expectation.
 
Longshanks said:
Next 6 will make or break Amorin you feel. 4 difficult away games at Liverpool, spurs, palace and forest, Brighton at old Trafford who have won the last three at old Trafford, and Everton at home which will inevitably be a slog against a stubborn David Moyes side.

Hes holding on, done just enough so far this season to not get sacked. But ultimately his only victories have come at home against newly promoted sides and a side that had there keeper sent off very early.

Win three of the next 6 and don't get thrashed at anfield is probably the minimum expectation.
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His saving grace has been that our competitors have also had inconsistent starts. No team in the league has pulled away from us apart from arguably Arsenal and that's only 6 points. Newcastle and Villa in particular have had very poor starts.
 
They''ll certainly be no hiding place in the next six games.

If we revert to the usual then you can literally see 2-3 points incoming out of a possible 18, so this needs to be a proper corner turned or he'll be toast.
 
He may not have won 2 games in a row yet but has he ever lost 3 in a row for us like slot…
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
They''ll certainly be no hiding place in the next six games.

If we revert to the usual then you can literally see 2-3 points incoming out of a possible 18, so this needs to be a proper corner turned or he'll be toast.
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Think we can get a draw at Anfield…. Beat Brighton at home. Beating Brighton will be sweet as we never beat them.
 
satish_united said:
Bought himself couple of more weeks time thanks to the attacking players and playing a decent GK. The result against Liverpool will be crucial interms of building some sort of momentum.

Midfield two of Bruno and Cas will be eaten alive against their midfield.
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Funny how when we lose its the system but when we win it's thanks to the players.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
They''ll certainly be no hiding place in the next six games.

If we revert to the usual then you can literally see 2-3 points incoming out of a possible 18, so this needs to be a proper corner turned or he'll be toast.
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He's not being judged on the next 6 games, it's not that black and white.
 
I was really hoping that he'd alter something tactically after our recent abject results. Although we beat Sunderland we saw all the same fundamental issues with his system, which makes it hard to get excited that this is some kind of performance to build on. Unfortunately all signs point to us struggling for the rest of the season. On the plus side, we have a top 5 squad and a new GK who looks the business so if we get the next appointment right the future is bright. I just hope we don't kick Mainoo out the door before Amorin.
 
DJ_21 said:
Think we can get a draw at Anfield…. Beat Brighton at home. Beating Brighton will be sweet as we never beat them.
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You say it like it will be easy, if we flipped the Sunderland and Brentford games around then I don't think anyone would be going into these games thinking we can get these outcomes.

Hopefully this is a proper corner turnred this time though, and Amorim is learning from making the same mistakes finally.
 
Redfrog said:
We create nothing but a lot of long shots from impossible angles. That why XG looks good.
It’s anti-Fergie’s football who knew how to create high quality chances.
Amorim doesn’t know how to create high quality chances and his football is boring to death.
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Seems like you have no clue how xG works, better stay quiet next time. xG is exactly the metrics to tell you the quality of chances "on average". If we have only chances from impossible angles, we'd have 0.01 type of chances and that would never convert into high xG number. One can argue that penalties can skew this number a little, but then we forced opponent into concede penalty, it's still high xG.

Feel free to stop watching the team and just check the score then, one sore fan arguing his shit online less. We are not perfect but comparing to Ole-ball, Van Gaal, Mourinho or Ten Haag we definitely play with more structure and are consistent in terms of chance creation. Last three years under Fergie I remember lots of absolutely dull and unwatchable 1:0s. Where we created a only a couple of chances and our at the time world class strikers just converted it.

We have no squad close to that with super solid defence and WC attackers to play Fergie ball. Ole tried but he failed. I am happy to see more progressive manager which is very needed at the time half of the teams in Prem are like that. Something unthinkable in Ferguson era.
 
Amorim has won 10 games in the PL - 5 of them were against promoted teams. The game against Sunderland was no. 50 with Amorim as United manager, and if you take a look at, how our last 10 managers to reach 50 games have done, you can see that ETH was the most succesful manager at that point:

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C'est Moi Cantona said:
You say it like it will be easy, if we flipped the Sunderland and Brentford games around then I don't think anyone would be going into these games thinking we can get these outcomes.

Hopefully this is a proper corner turnred this time though, and Amorim is learning from making the same mistakes finally.
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Oh I’m not going off our last 2 games. I’m going of Liverpools last 3. And our home record is strong.
 
Hester_manc said:
Amorim has won 10 games in the PL - 5 of them were against promoted teams. The game against Sunderland was no. 50 with Amorim as United manager, and if you take a look at, how our last 10 managers to reach 50 games have done, you can see that ETH was the most succesful manager at that point:

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It’s funny seeing this and seeing that ETH actually had a decent win ratio.
 
DJ_21 said:
It’s funny seeing this and seeing that ETH actually had a decent win ratio.
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ETH had a very decent first season, with a League Cup win thrown in (so lots of wins in that) and a solid run in Europe. He will have got to that 50 match point during that season, before the awful Summer transfer window in 2023 and his crazy changes in formation in 23/24.
 
I have to say, generally under Amorim we seem to start games pretty well. Under all of our previous managers, we always started games sluggishly, grew into it as we went on.

But we seem to start well under him, we're just no capitalising enough. Once we start turning the starts into goals, I think we'll have a much easier time. Klopps Liverpool we were great at winning the game in the first 30 minutes, then they would just pick teams off on the break. We've got the fire power to do the latter, we just need to convert the early chances into goals more regularly.
 
iHicksy said:
I was really hoping that he'd alter something tactically after our recent abject results. Although we beat Sunderland we saw all the same fundamental issues with his system, which makes it hard to get excited that this is some kind of performance to build on. Unfortunately all signs point to us struggling for the rest of the season. On the plus side, we have a top 5 squad and a new GK who looks the business so if we get the next appointment right the future is bright. I just hope we don't kick Mainoo out the door before Amorin.
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Sunderland were poor and should have been 1-0 up after 5 minutes, so yes hard to be excited. If we are to finish top 5 then we need to get 4-6 points from Liverpool, Brighton and Spurs, then we might have turned a corner. More likely we will finish around 10th spot.
 
Cathy Ferguson said:
Sunderland were poor and should have been 1-0 up after 5 minutes, so yes hard to be excited. If we are to finish top 5 then we need to get 4-6 points from Liverpool, Brighton and Spurs, then we might have turned a corner. More likely we will finish around 10th spot.
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How do you work that out?
 
Cathy Ferguson said:
Sunderland were poor and should have been 1-0 up after 5 minutes, so yes hard to be excited. If we are to finish top 5 then we need to get 4-6 points from Liverpool, Brighton and Spurs, then we might have turned a corner. More likely we will finish around 10th spot.
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We outplayed Sunderland. They're a good team
 
Poborsky's hair said:
Seems like you have no clue how xG works, better stay quiet next time. xG is exactly the metrics to tell you the quality of chances "on average". If we have only chances from impossible angles, we'd have 0.01 type of chances and that would never convert into high xG number. One can argue that penalties can skew this number a little, but then we forced opponent into concede penalty, it's still high xG.

Feel free to stop watching the team and just check the score then, one sore fan arguing his shit online less. We are not perfect but comparing to Ole-ball, Van Gaal, Mourinho or Ten Haag we definitely play with more structure and are consistent in terms of chance creation. Last three years under Fergie I remember lots of absolutely dull and unwatchable 1:0s. Where we created a only a couple of chances and our at the time world class strikers just converted it.

We have no squad close to that with super solid defence and WC attackers to play Fergie ball. Ole tried but he failed. I am happy to see more progressive manager which is very needed at the time half of the teams in Prem are like that. Something unthinkable in Ferguson era.
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He‘s right about the xG. It‘s not an infallible stat obviously because it is often so far off even over a long period of time.

Take Ten Hag‘s second season. We weren‘t lucky, the types of shots conceded were low xG while we created better chances ourselves. The result was a huge xG performance discrepancy.

That‘s why Ten Hag finished 8th with a far worse squad and Amorim 15th.

Now we are the team creating the poorer chances that xG seems to overvalue. We need to change our habit of taking ridiculous shots and start creating higher quality chances.

Easier said than done, I know.
 
NLunited said:
He‘s right about the xG. It‘s not an infallible stat obviously because it is often so far off even over a long period of time.

Take Ten Hag‘s second season. We weren‘t lucky, the types of shots conceded were low xG while we created better chances ourselves. The result was a huge xG performance discrepancy.

That‘s why Ten Hag finished 8th with a far worse squad and Amorim 15th.

Now we are the team creating the poorer chances that xG seems to overvalue. We need to change our habit of taking ridiculous shots and start creating higher quality chances.

Easier said than done, I know.
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No he isn't
 
Drainy said:
We outplayed Sunderland. They're a good team
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They finished 4th in the Championship last season, 24 points behind Burnley, who I assume we can agree are not a good team. They’ve also lost 3-0 away at Burnley already this season.

Yes, they’ve had a decent start to the season but I doubt anyone expects them to ultimately finish higher than 15th, and they will be ecstatic if they do so. They are in no way, shape or form a “good team” at premier league level.
 
Doracle said:
They finished 4th in the Championship last season, 24 points behind Burnley, who I assume we can agree are not a good team. They’ve also lost 3-0 away at Burnley already this season.

Yes, they’ve had a decent start to the season but I doubt anyone expects them to ultimately finish higher than 15th, and they will be ecstatic if they do so. They are in no way, shape or form a “good team” at premier league level.
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So desperate to downplay a good performance
 
Drainy said:
So desperate to downplay a good performance
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Not in the slightest. We avoided a banana skin and played well. However, it has to be pointed out it’s against one of the weaker teams in the league and we can’t therefore read too much into it. Pretending that Sunderland are “a good team” helps no one.

The Liverpool match next is obviously a freebie really. A loss has to be a realistic outcome (provided we don’t get battered) and a draw/win an enormous positive. The run of matches after that looks to me very much standard premier league fare though, and if we look good across those matches then the general mood will change significantly.
 
Cathy Ferguson said:
Sunderland were poor and should have been 1-0 up after 5 minutes, so yes hard to be excited. If we are to finish top 5 then we need to get 4-6 points from Liverpool, Brighton and Spurs, then we might have turned a corner. More likely we will finish around 10th spot.
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Stuff like this annoys me like mad. Because we won alls I’m seeing is it’s only Sunderland a newly promoted team. Yet since the start of the season Sunderland have been praised and rightly so, they’ve had a decent start to the season, so we deserve credit for outplaying them and beating them with a clean sheet.
 
Won a game without a red card or a penalty, and United were even dominant for most of it and kept a clean sheet.

What is this? :wenger:
 
NLunited said:
He‘s right about the xG. It‘s not an infallible stat obviously because it is often so far off even over a long period of time.

Take Ten Hag‘s second season. We weren‘t lucky, the types of shots conceded were low xG while we created better chances ourselves. The result was a huge xG performance discrepancy.

That‘s why Ten Hag finished 8th with a far worse squad and Amorim 15th.

Now we are the team creating the poorer chances that xG seems to overvalue. We need to change our habit of taking ridiculous shots and start creating higher quality chances.

Easier said than done, I know.
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I am not a big fan of xG myself, I admit it can be an inconsistent metric, but on average, with enough data it's valuable stat. Saying that we only create chances from impossible angles is simply not true though. We had some dull games like the one agaisnt Fulham or Brentford, but we are able to create chances on consistent bases. The execution of them is too bad. If we had a solid CM next to Bruno and a Wing back other than Dalot and Dorgu, we could have expected at least a couple more goals which would push us up the table. And of course penalty is a big chance.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
They''ll certainly be no hiding place in the next six games.

If we revert to the usual then you can literally see 2-3 points incoming out of a possible 18, so this needs to be a proper corner turned or he'll be toast.
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This is exactly what’s going to happen, followed by the usual sack in November
 
AdNani said:
Funny how when we lose its the system but when we win it's thanks to the players.
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When you have lost or drawn more games than you have won, the fault is the system and the wins are likely to be despite it due to dumb luck or individual quality (red cards in EL ties and Chelsea, pen vs Burnley etc).

This argument only works if he has more wins than losses, as a good system breeds consistency.
 
NLunited said:
He‘s right about the xG. It‘s not an infallible stat obviously because it is often so far off even over a long period of time.

Take Ten Hag‘s second season. We weren‘t lucky, the types of shots conceded were low xG while we created better chances ourselves. The result was a huge xG performance discrepancy.

That‘s why Ten Hag finished 8th with a far worse squad and Amorim 15th.

Now we are the team creating the poorer chances that xG seems to overvalue. We need to change our habit of taking ridiculous shots and start creating higher quality chances.

Easier said than done, I know.
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Still peddling absolute nonsense about your man Ten Hag.
 
Abhinav said:
Our home form and performances have been good. In all 4 matches, including the defeat to Arsenal, we looked threatening and had genuine periods of dominance.

Away performances have been trash and we have not looked convincing at all. He needs to come up with something really special to get something out of Anfield. He needs to find a way to congest the midfield somehow with his 3 at the back formation. I reckon he will play Maz as the right wingback and ask him to cover the midfield spaces when Bruno joins the attack. If Maz is not ready, then Dalot will need to do the job, though I hope that’s not the case.
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At home we’ve played arguably the 2 easiest fixtures of the season in Burnley & Sunderland (both of these will pick up majority of any points they get at home)
We played Chelsea who went down to 10 after a few minutes.
And Arsenal who we lost to.

I think our home form will be just as bad as our away form when we come up against the likes of Newcastle, Brighton at home.
 
LukeTheRed said:
At home we’ve played arguably the 2 easiest fixtures of the season in Burnley & Sunderland (both of these will pick up majority of any points they get at home)
We played Chelsea who went down to 10 after a few minutes.
And Arsenal who we lost to.

I think our home form will be just as bad as our away form when we come up against the likes of Newcastle, Brighton at home.
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Really hope you’re wrong. :(
 
Skills said:
I have to say, generally under Amorim we seem to start games pretty well. Under all of our previous managers, we always started games sluggishly, grew into it as we went on.

But we seem to start well under him, we're just no capitalising enough. Once we start turning the starts into goals, I think we'll have a much easier time. Klopps Liverpool we were great at winning the game in the first 30 minutes, then they would just pick teams off on the break. We've got the fire power to do the latter, we just need to convert the early chances into goals more regularly.
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Very true and something we actually accomplished yesterday, which is a pleasant change of pace. We won the game and then the second half the game just kinda drifted, which is good and bad I suppose.
 
Skills said:
I have to say, generally under Amorim we seem to start games pretty well. Under all of our previous managers, we always started games sluggishly, grew into it as we went on.

But we seem to start well under him, we're just no capitalising enough. Once we start turning the starts into goals, I think we'll have a much easier time. Klopps Liverpool we were great at winning the game in the first 30 minutes, then they would just pick teams off on the break. We've got the fire power to do the latter, we just need to convert the early chances into goals more regularly.
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Good point. We need to make a habit of going in at HT 2-0 up.
 
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