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Ruben Amorim | 2025-26
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We won against Chelsea with a good performance overall - you will say, but it was all because we played against ten. You can always find an excuse for not giving credit. Every game has its own story and isnt easily won - just be happy that there is a positiv development to be seen
Yes, which is why we need to see consistent performances. Our last four for example have seen us thrashed by City, an encouraging first half v Chelsea, deservedly beaten by Brentford and then a solid win at home against the 3rd favourites for relegation. Better than last season - sure - but It’s hardly the stuff of dreams currently.
You say that but I actually felt he did. Whether people like it or not, we played long far more, right up to Sesko who was winning it every time and getting Amad/Mbeumo into the game.
In fact, you can pretty much split how encouraging our performances have been across the home and away games:
Arsenal, Burnley, Chelsea, Sunderland - fairly encouraging - maybe 8/10
Grimsby, Fulham, City, Brentford - bar 10 minutes at the start v Fulham, almost entirely dire - 2/10
Arsenal, Burnley, Chelsea, Sunderland - fairly encouraging - maybe 8/10
Grimsby, Fulham, City, Brentford - bar 10 minutes at the start v Fulham, almost entirely dire - 2/10
Hmm good post...when you put it like that, it's clear Amorim needs to tweak or find a different way of playing away from home.
Consistent performances will come with some much needed momentum and belief. But yeah, City wasnt good enough, every other game we could have also won (by scoring our pens). I dont see a win against Pool but after that we should be ok
I think this boils down to mental resilience and player self belief.
We comfortably beat a team that got a result in a fixture against the team we've been compared to disfavourably.
Plus they beat Brentford, who battered us.
Do you think? To me, it looked very similar to how we usually play, which is actually fairly direct. Amorin's game plan since he arrived is to essentially bypass the midfield with direct balls into the wingbacks/fowards. I hope you're right as it would mean he's at least slightly adaptable, but to my eye it looked exactly how we usually play, complete with the same flaws that will get exposed vs liverpool and which fulham, brentford etc exposed so easily.
I'd love to be wrong, because on paper he's everything you'd want in a united manager. Unfortunately the game is played on grass and not paper.
Seems like you are very sensible. If you can’t stand any contradictive argument you should not respond and stay quiet instead of being agressive, you keyboard warrior.
It’s a free forum, my comment wasn’t offensive to you so don’t tell me what I should do or not.
Your agressive way of responding just show how insecure you are.
I won’t argue about Xg with you, not because I think you are right but because I am not interested in that kind of pointless agressive response.
Really hope you are alright !
I wonder if he makes it to January, does he get any signings like last year? A midfielder that can cover a lot of ground AND be technically excellent would help his system a lot.
A midfielder in that vein is an absolute must for me, especially if he’s here come January.
If we were playing two games a week regularly I think we’d be seeing much worse performances and results. Every time Casemiro gets a yellow card we may as well sub him right away really. Bruno is not a centre mid and he’s diminishing anyway in my opinion. Ugarte has somehow got worse after getting used to the league. Mainoo has some good qualities but seems to lack critical characteristics required, namely athleticism.
Funny you should mention Wirtz, he’s starting to come good. I know Liverpool lost yesterday. But Wirtz was amazing when he came on.Reeks of Wirtz winner and Gary Neville annoying us post match to me
He had one good touch. One.
I watched the last 30 minutes and he was a complete passenger. Looks completely out of his depth at the moment.
Tbf he was better for the first hour.
He had two sublime passes that led to goal scoring chances. For a number 10 that’s what you expect and also it was the type of pass and speed of the play when he did them.
There's a whole other thread where they desperately need reinforcements.
Getting a warning for this? I’m dumbfounded.
7 games played and Man United are only two points off 5th place and 4 points from 3rd,4th proving it's another less than vintage Premier League but under this manager you still can't help checking how many points the 18th placed team has..
I get what you're saying and for what it's worth I generally agree with what you have said.
Thought it was a subtle change to go even more direct to the ST/Sesko compared to normal, whereas normally we've been trying to play to the wingbacks and progress as you said. The Sunderland manager even said after the game that we played more direct compared to normal, I don't think they prepared for us to play like that. They tried to combat it by bringing on another defender very early on into the first half (Ballard) but Sesko couldn't be stopped.
The big difference was Sesko was actually winning most the duels in the air which meant Amad/Mbuemo got into the game far more. Also, Lammens long kicks, generally speaking, were all aimed directly high up the pitch in danger areas for Sesko to contest.
But I agree with you, this same game plan will not work against Liverpool. They've got better defenders and will gobble up anything long. So the problems still exist. United need better options at wingback or in midfield to progress. If Amorim wants a result against Pool, he'll need to adapt again and set the team up to counter attack this time. We'll see what he does.
It was an all around excellent performance by united.
Amad, Mbuemo, Dorgu were absolutely pounding on the attack, then Sesko, Bruno and Mount add on to Sunderland's misery by being extremely sharp in front of goal.
Casemiro was good but the team might want to put Mainoo in more.
Defenders were good and didn't create trouble like a Rojo or Bailey. Lemmans was playing like Schmeichel.
Superb performance.
Amad, Mbuemo, Dorgu were absolutely pounding on the attack, then Sesko, Bruno and Mount add on to Sunderland's misery by being extremely sharp in front of goal.
Casemiro was good but the team might want to put Mainoo in more.
Defenders were good and didn't create trouble like a Rojo or Bailey. Lemmans was playing like Schmeichel.
Superb performance.
They're the right men/women for the job.
Dorgu?
Reported for moaning.
I want him to succeed, would be weird if I didn't, think he's lucky to be still in the job if I'm honest.How to say you are Ruben In without actually saying Ruben In.
I don't think Amorim will get us in a relegation battle but a better manager would have us competing for top 5.
The whole "we're only x points off 5th place" thing doesn't really mean anything when we're only a few games into the season. Unless we're literally losing every single game, there's never going to be that much distance between places at this point.
We beat Sunderland at home, honestly that result means nothing to me in judgement of his position at the club. Sunderland haven't played anyone decent other than Villa and they caught them at the perfect time.
Still want him gone and won't waver on that fact. I just wish he'd adapt to the players he has at his disposal and play a formation that suits.
I also think he's bought wrong, we didn't need two new 10's. We needed a midfielder badly. Sort the spine of the team out first. Striker, keeper, midfielder and defender. For me that was essentially what we should have bought summer gone.
Instead we've overloaded the attack and neglected key areas. It was only after Grimsby that the panic for a keeper kicked in.
Still want him gone and won't waver on that fact. I just wish he'd adapt to the players he has at his disposal and play a formation that suits.
I also think he's bought wrong, we didn't need two new 10's. We needed a midfielder badly. Sort the spine of the team out first. Striker, keeper, midfielder and defender. For me that was essentially what we should have bought summer gone.
Instead we've overloaded the attack and neglected key areas. It was only after Grimsby that the panic for a keeper kicked in.
Dalot is simply not a very good football player.
Stats related to xG and shots etc.
Basically, xG is an objective measure but somehow is not very accurate in certain circumstances.
Small chances or out of the box shots generate too much xG. Don‘t ask me to explain why, it just is.
That works both ways but given it's a 2pts gap to 5th (which would be a very good finish) then it's certainly not a disaster as made out.
Tried to say last week that small margins and small samples make a poor foundation for any judgements. There's so much heat from those who wanted him out in the summer and that's an arguable position but it is a separate discussion to how this season is going so far.
Next 5 games will give us a good indication of where we're at and then after that it's a run of easier games.
I am obviously happy with the 3 points but I rate Amorim and the team not just on one single game. And to me it makes a difference if we win and play well against a top team like Liverpool or a newly promoted team which might have been overachieving. We will have a much better understaning of our top 5 chances after the games vs Liverpool, Brighton and Spurs.
Good performance, best I've seen us play in a while.
Amorim is still a shit manager who should be sacked tonight, since his overall body of work is nowhere near good enough. If one decent game is all that matters, we should have got the Grimsby manager in our dugout a couple of weeks ago. ETH also survived way past any reasonable sacking point by doing this, getting 3 awful results and just when you think he's about to be fired he pulls out a win, buying him the time to go ahead and give us 3 more awful results in the next few games.
Amorim is still a shit manager who should be sacked tonight, since his overall body of work is nowhere near good enough. If one decent game is all that matters, we should have got the Grimsby manager in our dugout a couple of weeks ago. ETH also survived way past any reasonable sacking point by doing this, getting 3 awful results and just when you think he's about to be fired he pulls out a win, buying him the time to go ahead and give us 3 more awful results in the next few games.
This is where I’m at. Nice to see us get points on the board and some good home performances. However we haven’t exactly set the league alight. We should be beating Sunderland and Burnley at home. We capitalised on Chelsea going down to 10 men. The other games have been really poor performances imo. He needs a big result like a win at Anfield and this record of not winning 2 games in a row off his back.
I don’t think it’s going to work out long term but glad to see us winning some game and clean sheet. We’re not miles away from having a decent team but I don’t see Amorim working out. Too rigid with his tactics.
Both teams can always say stuff like this though.
Liverpool fans will be saying we average 1 point per game under Amorim and we got overrun in every away game we've played this season Fulham, Grimsby, City and Brentford, and our manager is likely only ever a couple of bad games from the sack. They'll be saying it's a fantastic opportunity to kickstart their season by smashing us 3 or 4-0 like City did. And they'd be just as correct in their assessment.
Ultimately, they're a better side than us, at Anfield where we're usually terrible, and we can't buy a win away from home even against relegation candidates and league one sides.
We just have to pray for a shock one off away performance that is out of character for us, like we did in our 2-2 draw there last season.
Supplemented by Mbuemo playing closer to Sesko more regularly.
Cunha did the same when he came on.
There was a bit on MOTD regarding if I remember right.
It was good to see our central ST more in the game for a change.
They got a result against Crystal Palace away