Yep, see my response to @Lentwood above - it makes no sense.
Ruben Amorim | 2025-26
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Lammens.
Fair play to him. I've been critical but we've been superb for most of the last three matches.
A bit of banter is fine. Beyond that, its not worth derailing the thread. Just enjoy the win.
Hey, I mean, you know, just keep this going and you can stay.
Sorry but that doesn't make a lot of sense. You yourself have taken plenty of criticism for being perceived to be overly supportive of the manager, but when people are called out for having been perniciously and continually negative about the manager posts start disappearing?
Work to be done but we're getting there. I've no problem giving Amorim more time and money to see if the squad keeps improving .
Amorin.
Amorin.
Yes. There's no value in a multi page spat about who did or didn't support Amorim before today's win, that would wind up derailing the thread. Just enjoy the win and continue to talk all things Amorim.
I dont think ive ever hoped a manager can turn it around as much as I was hoping Amorim would.
Liverpool falling apart and United finally getting their act together. Great day for United supporters.Looks like the players are finally adjusting to Amorims systems. Looks like as well Amorim is putting fate in Diallo at RWB which is nice to see and looking forward to the long term partnership with him and Mbuembo. Amorim is one the of the most stubborn men I’ve ever seen but it’s starting to show that his stubbornness which was one
Of the things that really annoyed me about him is paying off. Get in a LWB and some centre midfielders and we are looking at a great team. Hopefully we can do something in January.
Of the things that really annoyed me about him is paying off. Get in a LWB and some centre midfielders and we are looking at a great team. Hopefully we can do something in January.
His winning % is still awful and he would have been fired with every other club last summer.
Can we not just be happy that we are winning at last? If the last year or two hadn't been so bad, we would not have been this starved of good feelings damn.
If he can improve the consistency so we can trust in the team to put this level of fight into each game I think most of us would be happy with that, especially considering the horror show that was last season, and I think just that helps you gain wins in this league regardless of formations, or systems.
For years now when we've looked like stepping up and stringing together a run, the next game we implode; as a fan it's horrible, it's not necessarily the losses but the manner in which we lose, sometimes it felt like there was some unearned arrogance there.
If he can keep the positivity going, and raise the floor of the standard so today's level of football becomes the norm I'll be happy.
Then address the weaknesses at CM, LWB and CB, and we can push on.
For years now when we've looked like stepping up and stringing together a run, the next game we implode; as a fan it's horrible, it's not necessarily the losses but the manner in which we lose, sometimes it felt like there was some unearned arrogance there.
If he can keep the positivity going, and raise the floor of the standard so today's level of football becomes the norm I'll be happy.
Then address the weaknesses at CM, LWB and CB, and we can push on.
Happy that we’re winning. Still not convinced.
That first half was really good
That was me today. We've been not been active enough as mods against the childishness, and decided recently to work harder on that. So yes, there is inconsistency with the (recent) past, since we're more active on this now. I'm sorry about that (the inconsistency) - but I don't think there is much point now going back to posts from September and earlier to clean that up as well. Plus no mod has the time for that. But I think it's worthwhile trying to change the tone, so I'll keep trying now.
One issue is that there is a lot of vendetta posting (my umbrella term for posters going after each other everywhere and being condescending or baiting towards others), and it's just hard to keep up with that for a small group of volunteers. It's better now United are winning, but even so. And so we'll miss stuff as well, that's unavoidable. In those cases, please report the offending post. We'd really appreciate that, we just can't read everything carefully ourselves.
We're all together part of changing the tone of discussion to something more constructive.
(Note: I said 'constructive', not 'positive'. Of course criticism and negativity are fine for things that aren't going well - as long as the posts invite discussion, not flame wars.)
It’s clear to see there is only so much he can do with players like Dalot still in the starting eleven but when we got a full Amorim team we’re gonna challange for the league I’m 100% sure of that.
You're posting idiotic stuff that just serves to wind up others. This is a discussion forum, not your primary school playground. You can go to Twitter if that's the level of discussion you like.
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Who would have thought he'd have us ahead of Liverpool by the end of October? It feels like those early positive vibes we felt against arsenal have now fully taken root. These players actually believe again.
If we're keeping with this system and or manager, I really think a new LWB at least one new CM and no Dalot would do wonders for us.
Both in January, is it possible?
Amazing isn't it. Especially when you consider we needlessly squandered points in the two games where Bruno missed pens.
Agreed on the LWB and CM, but I don't think those will get resolved until the summer. Our biggest threat this year will be losing Mbeumo, Amad, and Mazraoui for a month during AFCON. The potential points dropped from that far exceed what we could pick up by buying during the winter window imo.
I am glad we are finally doing good against teams like Burnley, Sundeland, Brighton in addition to winning against Chelsea, Pool.
Looks like we are finally playing like a good cohesive team.
Its crazy to think we could be the table toppers today if we won our first match against Arsenal which we truly deserved.
Looks like we are finally playing like a good cohesive team.
Its crazy to think we could be the table toppers today if we won our first match against Arsenal which we truly deserved.
Thrilled he’s got some momentum behind him.
The situation was horrible for a while. I can’t blame anyone for being Amorim out at that point, I certainly was. Now things are looking better so there’s lots of more positivity, which I can’t complain about. Not that it matters but I need more time to fully trust Amorim, but I’m super happy to see these past results and the vibe around the club. I would rather be wrong and happy then right and angry.
I am happy that a number of very difficult calls are starting to pay off with this team. Let's hope it continues but at the moment we look confident and dangerous. It's been a long long time coming and Amorim deserves credit.
Beautiful human. Always loved this guy.
Starting to look like a decent team at last
Amazing how a couple of wins quietens everything down.
I lost faith after Brentford, it was that bad, but fair play he deserves some credit, the grief hes had is ridiculous.
I lost faith after Brentford, it was that bad, but fair play he deserves some credit, the grief hes had is ridiculous.
We could have skipped a lot of the negativity this season had we converted our chances in various games, not to mention Bruno forgetting how to take penalties. But the promise was there, we've been creating more and better chances than most teams we've been up against this season, so we were bound to start turning that into positive results.
Not buying in fully to Amorim yet is perfectly reasonable, but when results weren't going our way this thread was packed full of so many low effort, poorly thought out, or just plain nonsense arguments, hopefully now that the more rabid posters are avoiding it (until our next loss, no doubt) there's room for some more sensible discussion.
I think the biggest thing that crushed us at the start of the season was the goalkeeping situation, the fact he held his nerve to let Lammens bed in was pretty strong.
As I said after the game, this is what I want to see.
I'll stand by my criticisms because it wasn't good enough.
This was. Fair play and give me more.
And by the way. I can take it like I give it. I didn't delete any posts...cheers.
I'll stand by my criticisms because it wasn't good enough.
This was. Fair play and give me more.
And by the way. I can take it like I give it. I didn't delete any posts...cheers.
I disagree, his win record is still atrocious. I also think he could have handled last season a lot better.
But we are where we are, and when we're winning then who cares about the past.
We all hope that the famous corner has been turned; 3 in a row is a good sign!
I've repeatedly said I've no issue with posters respectfully saying they thought Amorim needed to go. It's the ones calling him a fraud, a clown, an idiot etc that I have a problem with. I was the same for Ole, Ragnick and ten Hag.
Maybe I'm just old school, but it doesn't sit right with me that United fans will use terms like that for their managers.
There has been clear improvement in league performances with the exception of city and Brentford away, and even then, Bruno scores that penalty and the player gets the red card and we may have even won that one.
Maybe I'm just old school, but it doesn't sit right with me that United fans will use terms like that for their managers.
There has been clear improvement in league performances with the exception of city and Brentford away, and even then, Bruno scores that penalty and the player gets the red card and we may have even won that one.
That's definitely been a big problem for us too, having guaranteed blunders from Onana or Bayendir made the rest of the team very nervous. Still, we'd likely be 4 points better off had Bruno converted his penalties, which if you can believe it would have us top now.
He definitely does look like he’s the real deal now. We finally seem to having a new manager bounce, nearly a year after his arrival. We’ve struggled a lot against Brighton, and hadn’t won at home against them since 2022, so this is a big feat. Hope we can keep this up. Our next two fixtures are away to Nottingham Forest on 1 November, and away to Spurs on 8 November. The second is especially big, as Spurs have had our number since we last won against them back in October 2022 - our record against them is 2 draws and 5 defeats (in all competitions).
What was evident today was that we have a pretty good first XI and not a very good squad. Cunha, Mbeumo and Lammens are all massive upgrades on what came before them and Sesko, whilst not yet pulling up trees, has been better than 24/25 Hojlund.
However, whilst Casemiro is still very good, he needs hooking after an hour, and everything slightly fell apart when we started making subs. Amad at wing back pins the opposition full back in defence, Dorgu doesn’t. Ugarte can do Casemiro’s defensive work, but has none of his quality on the ball. Zirkzee doesn’t have the strength of Sesko.
If we can keep everyone fit, I think we could have a decent season and the start of something to build on. There’s a chemistry starting to come and certain players are coming to the fore. De Ligt has been superb this season.
However, whilst Casemiro is still very good, he needs hooking after an hour, and everything slightly fell apart when we started making subs. Amad at wing back pins the opposition full back in defence, Dorgu doesn’t. Ugarte can do Casemiro’s defensive work, but has none of his quality on the ball. Zirkzee doesn’t have the strength of Sesko.
If we can keep everyone fit, I think we could have a decent season and the start of something to build on. There’s a chemistry starting to come and certain players are coming to the fore. De Ligt has been superb this season.
He's starting to cook now. I feel shitty for doubting it. He's adapted his style, he's flexible and clearly he knows how to line us up.
His big problem now is reinforcements. As soon as Case came off we were like a completely different team. That isn't just down to Casemiro being decent, but because we seriously lack depth. Our first team is almost as good as anyone else's in the league save for a couple of positions, but those weaknesses get bigger when he has to rely on the bench. I think Mainoo is the only one from that bench that I trust when he comes on, and even he's struggling a little.
Father time is starting to catch up with Bruno as well. It was inevitable but he can't last the full 90 playing the way he does. He's getting even sloppier with his positioning and he's lost that extra bit of speed that used to make up for it. We ideally need him to be backed up with a new signing in January (with the plan to move him on in the summer, as shitty as that sounds because I love the guy).
His big problem now is reinforcements. As soon as Case came off we were like a completely different team. That isn't just down to Casemiro being decent, but because we seriously lack depth. Our first team is almost as good as anyone else's in the league save for a couple of positions, but those weaknesses get bigger when he has to rely on the bench. I think Mainoo is the only one from that bench that I trust when he comes on, and even he's struggling a little.
Father time is starting to catch up with Bruno as well. It was inevitable but he can't last the full 90 playing the way he does. He's getting even sloppier with his positioning and he's lost that extra bit of speed that used to make up for it. We ideally need him to be backed up with a new signing in January (with the plan to move him on in the summer, as shitty as that sounds because I love the guy).
Absolutely. And the posters that have had an issue with this are the ones now seeing their posts deleted.