Ruben Amorim | 2025-26

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Scotty Doesn't Know said:
According to The Athletic, one of the concerns Liverpool had about hiring Amorim as Klopp's successor was that his slower, less dynamic style of play would fail to energise supporters. This is something that I would hope Ineos would have considered (alongside the obvious fact that our squad didn't suit his formation), however they either overlooked it or disagreed about the notion of his slow style of play. Ineos and Amorim are fortunate that the matchgoing United fans are a tolerant bunch. Fanbases of much smaller clubs would have been up in arms about the lack of excitement on display since Amorim arrived. It feels like we're so desperate for him to succeed that we're willing to "suffer" (in Amorim's words) for a year or so, in the hope that we'll eventually see entertaining football on a consistent basis despite very little evidence of it coming to fruition.
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Or maybe the match going fans understand the issues last season were bigger than the manager?

Smaller clubs would be up in arms? Do you think every PL team plays entertaining football?
Lets see... West Ham fans got a trophy but threw their toys out the pram because Moyes was conservative... in comes Potter and they became worse, got rid of him and got Nuno, conservative.

Forest - Nuno gets get Europe, is sacked because the owner wants entertaining... in comes an entertainer Ange... surprise surprise... fans were not happy and gone to Sean Dyche.


Spurs - Got rid of Ange for entertaining them and got Frank.. who is a defensive, slow manager.

Our squad last season was not suitable for any manager, let alone Amorim..
 
Never thought I’d see the day Amorim is deemed ‘manager of the month’.

Amazing what happens when you don’t lose!
 
romufc said:
Or maybe the match going fans understand the issues last season were bigger than the manager?

Smaller clubs would be up in arms? Do you think every PL team plays entertaining football?
Lets see... West Ham fans got a trophy but threw their toys out the pram because Moyes was conservative... in comes Potter and they became worse, got rid of him and got Nuno, conservative.

Forest - Nuno gets get Europe, is sacked because the owner wants entertaining... in comes an entertainer Ange... surprise surprise... fans were not happy and gone to Sean Dyche.


Spurs - Got rid of Ange for entertaining them and got Frank.. who is a defensive, slow manager.

Our squad last season was not suitable for any manager, let alone Amorim..
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Ha ha, so true!
 
I'm not going to pretend like I haven't been one of his biggest critics but every time he makes me look wrong is a good thing.

Hopefully in the not too distant future he'll be manager of the year having won the title and I can feel properly humbled.

Its much better to be shown up for my opinions than for Man Utd to fail. Hopefully he wins another 20+ league matches this season and puts us right in the mix come May.
 
romufc said:
Smaller clubs would be up in arms? Do you think every PL team plays entertaining football?

Lets see... West Ham fans got a trophy but threw their toys out the pram because Moyes was conservative... in comes Potter and they became worse, got rid of him and got Nuno, conservative.

Forest - Nuno gets get Europe, is sacked because the owner wants entertaining... in comes an entertainer Ange... surprise surprise... fans were not happy and gone to Sean Dyche.


Spurs - Got rid of Ange for entertaining them and got Frank.. who is a defensive, slow manager.

Our squad last season was not suitable for any manager, let alone Amorim..
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Why do you feel the need to twist my words? It's no wonder half the posters in here fall out with you.

Some smaller clubs fanbases have been up in arms about their manager playing unexciting football. At no point did I say that every Premier League team plays entertaining football. For example, West Ham fans seem to have a sense of entitlement about playing 'the West Ham way' because a couple of their players were part of the 1966 World Cup winning team. Their fans were up in arms about the shit football and poor results under Potter, so he was sacked after having a points return similar to Amorim. They were aware that he walked into a bit of a mess left behind by Lopetegui (not Moyes), but they felt like January-September was a lengthy enough period to judge him on results and style of play. In contrast, our owners and our matchgoing fans are more patient with Amorim. Let's see if it pays dividends.
 
Of all the criticisms of Amorim, being boring is a shocker. I’m not big into stats etc so maybe my eyes have been lying to me but we absolutely have not been slow or boring for most parts of this season.

That Arsenal game was the best I’ve seen a United team play in a long, long time. We generally look to play the ball forward and get at teams rather quickly, I think the quality of football has been more than decent.
 
Manager of the month and player of the month, genuinely can't remember the last time this happened to us.

Hopefully a sign of things to come and not just a one off.
 
ManhattanRed said:
That Arsenal game was the best I’ve seen a United team play in a long, long time. We generally look to play the ball forward and get at teams rather quickly, I think the quality of football has been more than decent.
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Bang on. And the narrative then was that results were the important thing and the loss was an indicator that nothing had changed and it was 'same old same old'. Suddenly, now we're getting the results it's the performances that are getting pulled apart. We're still only a quarter of the way into the season!
 
Scotty Doesn't Know said:
Why do you feel the need to twist my words? It's no wonder half the posters in here fall out with you.

Some smaller clubs fanbases have been up in arms about their manager playing unexciting football. At no point did I say that every Premier League team plays entertaining football. For example, West Ham fans seem to have a sense of entitlement about playing 'the West Ham way' because a couple of their players were part of the 1966 World Cup winning team. Their fans were up in arms about the shit football and poor results under Potter, so he was sacked after having a points return similar to Amorim. They were aware that he walked into a bit of a mess left behind by Lopetegui (not Moyes), but they felt like January-September was a lengthy enough period to judge him on results and style of play. In contrast, our owners and our matchgoing fans are more patient with Amorim. Let's see if it pays dividends.
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I rather have discussions than personal insults or comments, but looks like you are incapable of that. I dont need to be liked...

Scotty Doesn't Know said:
Fanbases of much smaller clubs would have been up in arms about the lack of excitement on display since Amorim arrived.
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I guess you must be refering to championship or Bundesliga then? not the PL right?

Can you tell me which smaller club plays exciting football? Much smaller btw.. I would rather you stick to PL clubs for a comparison btw.

You talk about me twisting it but you are are twisting your own post... you mentioned about entertaining football which is why fans would be up in arms... but now mention points. So which one is it? Points on the board or entertaining football because that does not always go hand in hand?

There is a reason they are patient... which I can explain.

West Ham fans were willing to give Potter the start of the season, like United fans, but you think it was the same thing when it wasn't.

Start of the season, West Ham started with 3-0 loss, 5-1 loss, 3-0 loss, 3-0 loss, 2-1 loss.. which is not comparative to United is it? Do you think it was the same?
 
ManhattanRed said:
Of all the criticisms of Amorim, being boring is a shocker. I’m not big into stats etc so maybe my eyes have been lying to me but we absolutely have not been slow or boring for most parts of this season.

That Arsenal game was the best I’ve seen a United team play in a long, long time. We generally look to play the ball forward and get at teams rather quickly, I think the quality of football has been more than decent.
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Agreed. Even though we lost, we looked very good and should've taken at least a point. Arsenal have only conceded 3 goals in 16 fixtures this year, so us not scoring (despite having far more chances than them) is in retrospect not too surprising. I believe Amorim also said he thought the Arsenal performance was our best so far.
 
romufc said:
I rather have discussions than personal insults or comments, but looks like you are incapable of that. I dont need to be liked...



I guess you must be refering to championship or Bundesliga then? not the PL right?

Can you tell me which smaller club plays exciting football? Much smaller btw.. I would rather you stick to PL clubs for a comparison btw.

You talk about me twisting it but you are are twisting your own post... you mentioned about entertaining football which is why fans would be up in arms... but now mention points. So which one is it? Points on the board or entertaining football because that does not always go hand in hand?

There is a reason they are patient... which I can explain.

West Ham fans were willing to give Potter the start of the season, like United fans, but you think it was the same thing when it wasn't.

Start of the season, West Ham started with 3-0 loss, 5-1 loss, 3-0 loss, 3-0 loss, 2-1 loss.. which is not comparative to United is it? Do you think it was the same?
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The bolded part is why I'm not going to bother wasting the start of my weekend conversing any further with you after this post. I have already stated that I was referring to past examples of managers who are no longer employed by the club, as their dull style of play was at odds with the expectations of the fanbase. I gave West Ham as an example of a smaller club with whose previous managers' brand of football failed to meet the fans expectations: see Potter and Allardyce. Now you're trying to keep the topic solely focused on the 20 managers currently employed by Premier League clubs.

You're the worst kind of poster there is. You twist someone's words and then try backing them into a corner by setting your own revised parameters, so that you can set yourself up to subsequently "a-ha! See! You were wrong all along!" Good luck trying to get a rise out of the next poster who dares to question Amorim's methods.
 
Scotty Doesn't Know said:
According to The Athletic, one of the concerns Liverpool had about hiring Amorim as Klopp's successor was that his slower, less dynamic style of play would fail to energise supporters. This is something that I would hope Ineos would have considered (alongside the obvious fact that our squad didn't suit his formation), however they either overlooked it or disagreed about the notion of his slow style of play. Ineos and Amorim are fortunate that the matchgoing United fans are a tolerant bunch. Fanbases of much smaller clubs would have been up in arms about the lack of excitement on display since Amorim arrived. It feels like we're so desperate for him to succeed that we're willing to "suffer" (in Amorim's words) for a year or so, in the hope that we'll eventually see entertaining football on a consistent basis despite very little evidence of it coming to fruition.
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What are you talking about?
 
He is not the right manager as he is resistant to changing his formation and tactics and there is one thing that the Premier League proves time and time again is that you have to continually change it up or you will eventually be exposed.

Pep is now finding this out, Ferguson was a master at changing tactics and players and its the reason for his longevity.

I still don't understand his naivety in sticking to one formation - it makes preparing teams against him so much easier - just overload the midfield areas and he won't know how to respond.
 
Boring said:
He is not the right manager as he is resistant to changing his formation and tactics and there is one thing that the Premier League proves time and time again is that you have to continually change it up or you will eventually be exposed.

Pep is now finding this out, Ferguson was a master at changing tactics and players and its the reason for his longevity.

I still don't understand his naivety in sticking to one formation - it makes preparing teams against him so much easier - just overload the midfield areas and he won't know how to respond.
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I think this is an extremely tried argument, now. He has clearly changed and evolved his tactics over time and from one game to another, particularly when personnel allows.
 
Boring said:
He is not the right manager as he is resistant to changing his formation and tactics and there is one thing that the Premier League proves time and time again is that you have to continually change it up or you will eventually be exposed.

Pep is now finding this out, Ferguson was a master at changing tactics and players and its the reason for his longevity.

I still don't understand his naivety in sticking to one formation - it makes preparing teams against him so much easier - just overload the midfield areas and he won't know how to respond.
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Username checks out
 
Posh Red said:
I think this is an extremely tried argument, now. He has clearly changed and evolved his tactics over time and from one game to another, particularly when personnel allows.
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What has he evolved? We still play a back three with shoehorning players into the wingback positions.

We still get overwhelmed in midfield because our two mids are invariable up against a three man mid and our centrebacks do not push up.

Why is there so much revisionism and blind faith in managers. Let results speak and they have spoken loud.
 
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Boring said:
What has he evolved? We still play a back three with shoehorning players into the wingback positions.

We still get overwhelmed in midfield because our two mids are invariable up against a three man mid and our centrebacks do not push up.
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Our centerbacks do push up.
 
Boring said:
He is not the right manager as he is resistant to changing his formation and tactics and there is one thing that the Premier League proves time and time again is that you have to continually change it up or you will eventually be exposed.

Pep is now finding this out, Ferguson was a master at changing tactics and players and its the reason for his longevity.

I still don't understand his naivety in sticking to one formation - it makes preparing teams against him so much easier - just overload the midfield areas and he won't know how to respond.
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Lots of managers stick to one formation. It just doesn't get whined about as much when the formation they stick to is some variation of 433.

And I have no idea what team you've been watching if you haven't seen changes to the way we play within that 343.

The way the midfield presses has changed since Amorim first arrived arrived (particularly once Casemiro came into the team), we adapted the #10 role last season to suit Garnacho, we are much more direct this season, we're swapping between a traditional #9 and Cunha up front depending on the game, the profile of wingbacks we use is constantly rotating (as today with Mazraoui coming into the team), etc. Those are all changes, some continuous ones.
 
Boring said:
Our wingbacks today are Maz and Dorgu. There is no need marking them, Tottenham can just waltz through the middle of the pitch.
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I‘m not sure what point you are trying to make. Dalot has been awful, Maz is a good player, Dorgu can be good he‘s just young and inconsistent.

I like this line up.
 
Scotty Doesn't Know said:
The bolded part is why I'm not going to bother wasting the start of my weekend conversing any further with you after this post. I have already stated that I was referring to past examples of managers who are no longer employed by the club, as their dull style of play was at odds with the expectations of the fanbase. I gave West Ham as an example of a smaller club with whose previous managers' brand of football failed to meet the fans expectations: see Potter and Allardyce. Now you're trying to keep the topic solely focused on the 20 managers currently employed by Premier League clubs.

You're the worst kind of poster there is. You twist someone's words and then try backing them into a corner by setting your own revised parameters, so that you can set yourself up to subsequently "a-ha! See! You were wrong all along!" Good luck trying to get a rise out of the next poster who dares to question Amorim's methods.
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Van Gaal had a big impact on the players but his football was boring to watch.
Amorim's is a bit better especially with Casemiro who plays more vertical risky passes and loses the ball more but is more exciting. The recycling of the ball has been given more priority even at the missed opportunities to cross the ball into the dangerous areas.
 
Ruben
Please tell your players when they win or get the ball in their own 3rd, to expect tackles and closing down from the opposition
Instead of them acting like they can walk the ball out of defence and inviting on needless trouble
 
Learned nothing from last week
Tottenham not been in the game for up to an hour and now allowing them dominate
 
So it's obvious now that the 3 match winning run was just a purple patch.

Normal service resumed.
 
Thought the subs were ok. Mount was fantastic. 2-2 and the doom mongers can cry in reply if you want. But they were shite and two jammy goals.
 
The team is better than last season, but that was an historically low bar.

I think he has to get top 6 or it has been another poor season.
 
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