Ha, good answer!
Ruben Amorim | 2025-26
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While it’s not perfect by any means this season so far we have improved in general play by quite a distance (couldn’t be worse)
We have 4 wins out of 5 games at home with a loss coming against Arsenal in a game we didn’t deserve to lose at all. He has made OT a hard place to go so far this season which is contrary to the past few seasons.
On the downside our away record is poor with 6 points in 6 games. I do feel this is down to the midfield as seen last weekend when Casemiro went off the level dropped so much and in away games a top midfield is essential to grinding out wins.
He has come in got rid of the players not performing and the ones with ego. He has installed players that want to be here and work for the team. His signings so far have been good. Mbeumo and Cunha are United players, Lammens looks a confident GK.
There is question marks over Sesko and Dorgu but both only 22 and 21 so very young.
Sometimes his system does annoy me but it’s obvious what he wants next in the market (CM or 2) and I feel with the right signings we would be incredibly strong next season.
This season is about improving while having holes in our team and especially our squad but I do feel like he is hitting the target so far. We are exactly the team to what you see, brilliant in patches with weaknesses and it shows.
We do leak goals but I feel it’s too do with our CM being none existent allot of the time but we do score a lot and there is always a goal in us.
Barring a bad run or anything I do think he will be given the chance to fix the project by signing CM’s thought I feel LWB is huge too.
I do hope we get top 5 as CL football next season with another big transfer window and we could be on for a title challenge sooner than expected.
As of now I feel he is doing a decent job and I don’t think his job is anywhere in question
We have 4 wins out of 5 games at home with a loss coming against Arsenal in a game we didn’t deserve to lose at all. He has made OT a hard place to go so far this season which is contrary to the past few seasons.
On the downside our away record is poor with 6 points in 6 games. I do feel this is down to the midfield as seen last weekend when Casemiro went off the level dropped so much and in away games a top midfield is essential to grinding out wins.
He has come in got rid of the players not performing and the ones with ego. He has installed players that want to be here and work for the team. His signings so far have been good. Mbeumo and Cunha are United players, Lammens looks a confident GK.
There is question marks over Sesko and Dorgu but both only 22 and 21 so very young.
Sometimes his system does annoy me but it’s obvious what he wants next in the market (CM or 2) and I feel with the right signings we would be incredibly strong next season.
This season is about improving while having holes in our team and especially our squad but I do feel like he is hitting the target so far. We are exactly the team to what you see, brilliant in patches with weaknesses and it shows.
We do leak goals but I feel it’s too do with our CM being none existent allot of the time but we do score a lot and there is always a goal in us.
Barring a bad run or anything I do think he will be given the chance to fix the project by signing CM’s thought I feel LWB is huge too.
I do hope we get top 5 as CL football next season with another big transfer window and we could be on for a title challenge sooner than expected.
As of now I feel he is doing a decent job and I don’t think his job is anywhere in question
Thanks Johnny, I forgot to include Eddie Howe in my list. Newcastle have been terrible this season!
You will note that for Glasner and Silva (don't think I mentioned Iraola), I only chose to focus on matches which fans would feel that they should have gotten a win, rather than matches they lost against Top 4 opposition. I agree that the points we've lost to those clubs you cited could come back to bite us, but my point was merely that the same could be said for clubs run by these other "top" managers, so it is doubtful that we wouldn't have dropped these points even with another manager at the helm (which was a response to your original point that we may have done better with another manager). Sure we could have done maybe a few points better, but not by much.
You genuinely think Dorgu is a good wingback?
We just look so frail though. In the five games Lammes has started for us we’ve conceded 7 goals. That’s with him doing well too.
What’s been good so far and the reason we’re doing better this season is that we’re doing the business at the other end, does it not concern you though that we’re potentially about to lose that edge in a few games time when our two most inflential attackers disappear?
We’ve also had the priviledge of an pretty much injury free squad so far, but I’ll be shitting myself when we actually have to start rotating the squad because we’re uttrrly reliant on Casemiro playing every game at the moment.
Seems like you're doing it right now anyway.
You're working so hard to not enjoy even our short decent run of games.
It takes mental gymnastics to point out he's adequate. Impossible in anything other than a long post.
I always keep mixing up your usernames on first glance. Reading the post usually makes it pretty clear who is who. Dorgu far away from the required quality at this moment
Oh, I enjoyed it. The last two games, not so much. We’ve got some good fixtures coming up so hopefully we can get back on track in the coming games. We’ll need to.
Abso bloody exactly
Christ on a bike!
We should be challenging for the league based on the money we spent over the past 10 years, but unfortunately we've wasted that money.
It's gone.
We were a mid table club with mid table players when Amorim took over. Once you make your peace with that then you can evaluate what's going on now.
We're trying to break away from the middle pack of really well run and we'll funded clubs and with the signings we've made, we've got a good chance of making the 1st step. People are banging on about Forest like it's the 90s. Forest make more money and pay their players more than Juventus.
This isn't the 90s and there are no guaranteed away 3 points in this league anymore, even for the top teams.
True 100%.
Saved me wasting 20 minutes of my life responding to that childish rant.
Couldn't of said it better myself.
Great post.
Ha ha, so true. If the content is the dourest most miserable take possible then you know who it is
Very well put, especially the bolded bit.
I genuinely think at the moment he is not a good enough wing back or LB..
So let me ask you do you think he is a good full back?
I’m not knocking your sentiment, or your ambition for our club, but football would be very boring if it worked this way
I'm quite calm, but I appreciate the free advice! The issue before is whether next season will be another one wondering would it be like to be back in the CL. If getting turned over by relegation bound clubs is to be expected because they are managed by the likes of Sean Dyche, we'll be fortunate to make it back to the EL.
Wonder if "talking shit about MU" is a requirement before joining Sky Sports?
Room temperature IQ level analysis there. He seems incapable of simply comparing where we are now compared to what Amorim took over, and instead focuses on where the club should be based on stature. Of course, there is a lot of work to do. Of course, we have partly improved by spending money on forwards. But you'd have to be blind to say that the mentality hasn't improved. Last year we found ways to lose - now we find ways to win or a draw from tough positions.
Yeah, the standard ex-pro is never going to be able to look past the great sides of SAF. It made the segment a bit silly, really as any nuance or discussion would just be laughed at by Jimmy.
Luckily, we have Twitter to chop it up, so no one actually has to sit through the entire thing.
Luckily, we have Twitter to chop it up, so no one actually has to sit through the entire thing.
This is the hyperbolic, overly dramatic stuff that I'm referring to. Did we get 'turned over' by Forest? No. Are they 'relegation bound'? Highly unlikely. I don't know whether you watched the game but we were in control of most of it, but for a 5 min spell straight after the break when they were fired up over our 'unjustly awarded' goal. We didn't have the focus that we should have done in that period and that is fair game to lay at the manager's door to some extent, but you are rewriting history to suit your narrative by describing an away draw as 'getting turned over'.
Things that make you go "hmmm...".
I haven't seen him as a full back or a winger often enough to accurately assess that. His defensive attributes look much better than attacking ones so I'd be much more comfortable with him as a LB than depending on him as a the sole outlet for width.
Alright, imagine this. It's the day after we just sacked ETH. Someone comes along and tells you the next manager will finish 15th that season, and after 11 games into the second season he'll be 7th, after having a net spend of 176m Euros. Would you be happy hearing that? Would you have thought at the time that it'd represent decent progress from where we were? Because I wouldn't.
Nobody critical of Amorim cares about the Forest game in isolation. Anyone can have a bad game. If it was just a bad game but his other 35 games were full of great performances and results no one would be calling for his head. But the fact is, it's the win against Liverpool that's the anomaly in his tenure, the Forest result represents more like his average/expected return.
We weren't really a 'mid table club' when Amorim took over. We were a team that had a bad year and finished 8th while winning the FA Cup. Before that year, our previous league finishes were 3rd, 6th, and 2nd. Not good enough, but hardly mid table. It's Amorim himself who has gotten us that label - to the point I imagine if we were to finish 8th this season with an FA cup win, quite a lot here would consider that a good season, whereas only a couple of years ago it was considered that ETH was lucky to keep his job with such a showing.
Saw a video The Athletic did wherein they said you can accurately predict a league finish after 10 matches. They said in most seasons, a team finished only 1 place higher or lower than they were after 10 played. We are in 7th, so a 6th place is about as good as we can hope for (according to them) and 8th about as far as our collapse will take us.
Unless Jimmy Brexit changes his mind, Amorim stays on even with an 8th place finish, so everyone should make peace with this idea now. It’s insane how our standards have dropped.
Bad luck for you; this is where we are now. You can always go and support another club. We’re attempting to rebuild a football team that has been neglected in every way imaginable. If you can’t hack it, maybe take a time out? They aren’t going to sack the manager any time soon I’m afraid.
Perfectly content with that, thank you very much.
We spent about £70m more than the average PL club did in the summer, on a team that finished 15th.
Do you think that extra £70m should have propelled us from 15th into the title race?
Telling a fellow fan to go support another club because you see things differently, what a bad post.
Not this again... the squad was better that a 15 position. Amorim himself said that even Dyche would have had more wins last season that him.
The problem was that he forced a new system on us, that we had to 'suffer' in his own words.
Maybe it'll be worth it eventually and maybe not. But saying our squad was not better than 15th is an insult to our players.
So many tactical experts in here!
Funny, cause every real expert (not former players, pundits or YouTubers) will tell you that any formation can work if coached well and with the right players. It’s never the formation in itself but how it’s executed. We’re really should have passed the point of formation discussion.
We’ve seen improvements in performances as well as results these last games so let’s see if it continues. People moan about draws, but last season we would have lost those games. And our general play has been much better than last season.
What worries me isn’t Amorim’s tactic, strategy or in game management. I’m quite certain he’s a very capable coach with a plan. But when I hear about him calling out players in front of the whole team I begin to doubt his man management which I always thought were a strength. That’s really not the way to change the culture for the better - the wrong way to show authority. That’s my only worry at the moment.
That said, he should get this season at the very least, unless we revert to performances like last season.
Funny, cause every real expert (not former players, pundits or YouTubers) will tell you that any formation can work if coached well and with the right players. It’s never the formation in itself but how it’s executed. We’re really should have passed the point of formation discussion.
We’ve seen improvements in performances as well as results these last games so let’s see if it continues. People moan about draws, but last season we would have lost those games. And our general play has been much better than last season.
What worries me isn’t Amorim’s tactic, strategy or in game management. I’m quite certain he’s a very capable coach with a plan. But when I hear about him calling out players in front of the whole team I begin to doubt his man management which I always thought were a strength. That’s really not the way to change the culture for the better - the wrong way to show authority. That’s my only worry at the moment.
That said, he should get this season at the very least, unless we revert to performances like last season.
But this season isn’t like most others, is it? There are 11 teams, from 3 to 13, within 5 points, 8 of them have 16, 17 or 18. I don’t think you can predict much from the table at the moment.
Good job I didn't say that then isn't it.
Par for the course by now. If you're not happy with Amorim so far, you're plastic, a glory hunter, don't watch matches, get influenced by pundits, you name it.
"On a team that finished 15th". Not a word about the manager, only the team.
Hoping we lose and upset when we win also.
Standards, Standards, Standards.....
It's like a buzz word for a stick to beat some fans with, a club of this size should be competing for the CL & PL on a regular basis, no argument there, but let's look at the actual reality and context since ETHs appointment:
- ETH assembled the worst forward line in our history.
- Wasted money on Ugarte, Zirkzee, Hojlund, Onana, Mount, Casemiro, Antony & Martinez.
How many of the current team gets in to a PL winning United side?
This team has been on a downward trend, last season was literally hitting rock bottom, there is a clear upward turn how sustainable that is remains to be seen.
6th is all we can hope for, there are 4 point separating 2nd & 9th, we had the chance to go 2nd twice and failed, but because we are currently 7th, 6th is as high as we can achieve, if you say so.
Maybe you should head your own advice, make peace with the 3-4-3 & the fact Amorim is going to finish the season, instead of constantly posting about how he is the reason we are where we are and how he has single handedly brought United to it's knees.
Or maybe, just maybe, fans can get behind the manager, given we know he will be here for a while, and stop the incessant negativity and moaning.
The problem with some is that they think football is played on paper and based on FIFA ratings...
The squad finished 8th season prior, all the data suggested that 8th was overperforming measures... Ten Hag was sacked when 12th and we finished 15th..
The squad has been flip flopping from 6th to top 4 for years now...
Building something sustainable doesn't come easily.
The squad finished 8th season prior, all the data suggested that 8th was overperforming measures... Ten Hag was sacked when 12th and we finished 15th..
The squad has been flip flopping from 6th to top 4 for years now...
Building something sustainable doesn't come easily.
We'll see what happens in time sure.
But also maybe stop sugar coating everything he does like he's some sort of Messiah when he's done nothing to deserve it. There's some sort of fandom behind him that's puzzling, Moyes would never have had this backup. He's charming perhaps?