Irrelevant, because Ten Hag wasn’t getting three wins and a hammering in every four games. If he was we’d have been in title contention.
Ruben Amorim | 2025-26
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Irrelevant, because Ten Hag wasn’t getting three wins and a hammering in every four games. If he was we’d have been in title contention.
Fair. But he still got more points per game than Amorim despite getting hammered here and there. Point being a heavy defeat is annoying but better than two defeats if that makes sense
How about from all games since our current manager took over? 50+ games.
And? I never claimed Amorim was getting a better points total, I said we generally look more competitive in games under him and look less liable to get hammered. I also said I remain entirely unconvinced Amorim is the right man. I am just 100% certain Ten Hag was the wrong man.
Not disagreeing with you here.
Some of you are really easily pleased. 3 shite performances against mid table clubs, then he gets an OK (not brilliant, but OK) performance against another mid table club and he's the man for the job again.
Oh yeah I suppose there was that 'brilliant' win against Liverpool (who every man and his dog have beaten since then) and that great home loss to Arsenal where some would have you think we played like prime Barcelona.
Needs the sack, and still needs the sack if we win the next game too.
Oh yeah I suppose there was that 'brilliant' win against Liverpool (who every man and his dog have beaten since then) and that great home loss to Arsenal where some would have you think we played like prime Barcelona.
Needs the sack, and still needs the sack if we win the next game too.
I think we can all agree that Pep is quite a good football manager, but his team is currently a lot worse than it was a few seasons ago. Why? He’s got a lot of players that aren’t as good as the ones they’ve replaced.
Personally, I’m happy to stick with Amorim for now, but I’m not a card carrying member of the fan club. However, recruitment is the single biggest driver of how we improve. We’ve been abysmal at recruitment for years, as our squad shows, and getting rid of bad players and buying better ones is quite a simple strategy for improving our fortunes. Antony, Sancho and Onana out, Cunha, Mbeumo and Lammens in makes us a better team. Keep making moves like that and we’ll continue to move up the table.
Personally, I’m happy to stick with Amorim for now, but I’m not a card carrying member of the fan club. However, recruitment is the single biggest driver of how we improve. We’ve been abysmal at recruitment for years, as our squad shows, and getting rid of bad players and buying better ones is quite a simple strategy for improving our fortunes. Antony, Sancho and Onana out, Cunha, Mbeumo and Lammens in makes us a better team. Keep making moves like that and we’ll continue to move up the table.
Yep, it's not rocket science, I'm sure Pep (one of the best managers of all time) hasn't changed. Many just think managers have far more influence over results than the quality of player at their disposal.
It's enjoyable seeing Frank having minimal impact on Spurs results but it's no great surprise when missing 4 of their top 5 scorers from last season (Solanke, Maddison, Kulusevski and Son who left).
I've been exasperated at our recruitment for years, it's been horrific. This summer at least made more sense and thats the main thing that will have us competing again one day.
Agreed, and that’s where despite being disappointed in Amorim so far in terms of both results and performances, I don’t yet harbour the same feeling of despair as I did with Ten Hag, mostly because our transfer dealings seem to be moving to a much more sensible place. It’s impossible to tell how much is down to Amorim versus the other members of the recruitment team, but I’m encouraged by the players we’ve managed to get rid of and been generally impressed by the profile of player we’ve tried to bring in. There seems to be a greater recognition of the fact that physically we haven’t been able to compete in the PL and incomings needs to raise the levels in that regard. Even if Amorim doesn’t work out, I think the next man will likely be coming into a stronger team which is better suited to compete.
Can't believe he's still here. Even the Palace performance was a comedy.
I’ve given up hope he will be sacked this season. I believe we will still end up in the bottom 10 by the end of the season and our form will really go down when key players leave for the AFCON.
Nonsense. The second half was a comedy? People are mental in here.
In what way didn't that happen? Love you too wapr. Xoxo
Probably say about average
Just enjoy us winning ffsSome of you are really easily pleased. 3 shite performances against mid table clubs, then he gets an OK (not brilliant, but OK) performance against another mid table club and he's the man for the job again.
Oh yeah I suppose there was that 'brilliant' win against Liverpool (who every man and his dog have beaten since then) and that great home loss to Arsenal where some would have you think we played like prime Barcelona.
Needs the sack, and still needs the sack if we win the next game too.
I do enjoy the once a month that happens on average.
Which may also mean that Glasner may not be the manager for us, based on our current squad! (not saying you want this, just that others have previously advocated for hiring Glasner)
If manager dont matter why some manager jumps to a midtable clubs, bought 1 or 2 player and change their fortune overnight?
If players is the main factor, why amorim came spent anothet 250m and made us worse than before?
I bet you guys amorim in were baying for Mourinho sacking back then.
We continued the same nonsense of not being able to play, we couldn't pass wind. We benefitted from Palace becoming tired. If you're happy with this level of performance then that's up to you but for me it's nowhere near good enough.
I do, that's why I want Amorim out.
He might be dogmatic. But the club are backing him and he is missing a proper left side and missing 1-2 midfielders. Every heat map shows us suffering on the left and that has knock on effects on us being easier to defend on the right side since one fast fullback neutralizes Dorgu singlehandedly and they can focus vs our right sided threat.
Despite a suboptimal setup were still in contention. For top 4-6 still.
We offloaded quite a few wingers also.
He is higher up the table than Glasner and Iraola and that isn't too shabby considering the accolades they get.
Despite a suboptimal setup were still in contention. For top 4-6 still.
We offloaded quite a few wingers also.
He is higher up the table than Glasner and Iraola and that isn't too shabby considering the accolades they get.
Love how some are discrediting him after the Palace win. It is a big win not only because he was under pressure but because Palace is formidable at home. This was their first defeat at home this season as well.
And Iraola or Glasner in? Despite us being above both.
Perhaps, we've seen what they can do with the players they have available to them - imagine what they can do with better players like ours.
Did I say managers don't matter? Managers matter, players matter a lot more, it's not that difficult to see. Even in your example you say 'bought 1-2 players'.
How you think we're worse than last season?
I'm not anybody in.
As said previously; if the club is really backing Amorim, then I hope for his sake, they buy him some more players in January. Anything else would indicate a certain lack of conviction. We can all clearly see the holes in the squad, so I'm sure the club's current highly paid and praised transfer gurus should also be able to. Not backing him in January would be neither here nor there. Which, to be honest, would be on par with Ineos' tenure so far.
You jump on everybody who criticizes Amorim and try to blame the players for everything, but you're not 'Amorim in'.
That almost feels not entirely true.
Are they better though? What does better mean in relation to the system they play.
Ours might be better at one thing whilst theirs might be better at more than one - multidimensional if you like.
Yes, I'm pretty confident that we have better players. Do you think Bournemouth or Crystal Palace have better players than us?
Good managers make their team better by playing to their strengths, and that is what we need.
Show me all these posts where I 'jump on everybody' who criticises Amorim or just stop talking nonsense.
I'm not desperate to have have him out like you because the I believe the squad is only a certain limiting level, and he's not doing bad enough in relation to that. If that makes me 'in' then so be it.
Check your own posting history.
Our squad is only capable of winning around 3 out of 10 PL matches?
I'm waiting for multiple quotes of me 'jumping on' 'everybody' who criticises Amorim. Should be loads right?
The vast majority of mine are just responding to posters like you jumping on my posts because they aren't baying for Amorim to be sacked.
Their clubs also have something like 20-30% of our annual revenue.
Apparently, if you back the manager it means you jump on everybody.. the same posters say the same thing about everyone who backs the manager.
Some fans always the same... the posters were calling out for us to get Frank because with better team he will get better results... we are seing that right now aren't we?
The theory goes out the window...
We have seen numerous managers fail to make the step up from a lower league club. They do well because those managers only get highlighted when they are doing well, no one cares when they are losing games.
The pressure is less than 20-30% of United at those clubs too... unless you think that pressure has no impact ?
There is a reason why only some managers succeed at top clubs.
There is so much evidence... Potter, Moyes, Nuno, Frank who have all failed to deliver.
Frank has failed in December but it's too early to judge Amorim, alright
Some fans want to back the manager... if he doesn't get us CL this season he has failed and should be sacked... but aren't you the one who was calling for Frank?
So if you were a Spurs fan... would you want Frank sacked or back him?
Or perhaps you wont answer the question because it wont suit your agenda.
Yep, I was in favour of Frank. Think I'd be pretty disillusioned if I was a Spurs fan, certainly performing much worse than I expected. I know very little about their squad and don't go out of my way to watch them, but they've been really poor whenever I've seen them.
Me being wrong about Frank or Frank needing more time has really little relevance to Amorim being poor and the worst United manager in living memory
Good of you to confirm that your pro-Amorim stance is purely down to some high horse top red bollocks rather than judging his actual performances so far.