Ruben Amorim | 2025-26

[TempusFugit]

It’s madness that we hire a manager that has only one, unproven PL system, to build a team around. A system that is managed by a tactically clueless manager. It’s beyond parody now that he’s allowed to continue.
Even if his system was half decent, he’d need to change it occasionally to make us competitive in certain games - but he can’t.
It’s comical how his tactical inflexibility has worked its way to a club like United.
INEOS and Amorim aren’t serious at this level.

Optimizing this squad's abilities isn't rocket science. Ten Hag spent the entire 2nd season playing a suicidal 4-3-3 with Mount and Fernandes as high pressing 8s, leaving an already slow Casemiro with almost the whole midfield to secure. That was the plan anyway, and injuries really hurt us that season, i remember him being forced to lineup with Jonny Evans and Casemiro at CB at one point.

Ten Hag going back to a back to a more secure midfield in that FA cup final, pairing Mainoo with Amrabat, Mctominay as extra help and Fernandes as a false nine pulling the extra strings won us that final. If he had persisted with the same wide open midfield we would've lost badly.

If Amorim were a serious manager he'd at least try to shore up his midfield, or even refrain from being so obsessed with a system that needs specialists almost everywhere to function optimally. We've got a RB playing LWB, another RB playing RCB, two 30+ olds tasked with firefighting against some of the most physical PL midfields, a good RW playing RWB and stuck defending the back post, a top attacking midfielder playing as far from the opponent's goal as possible.

Amorim has strong convictions about his system, but i don't see any long term reward in what's he's obstinately trying to implement here. We don't defend well, can't control possession or build up against any competent team and are always struggling to punish opponents even when we're playing well.

A return to basics might not be a bad thing, strong pivot, Fernandes with a licence to go forward, Shaw and Mazraoui as natural fullbacks and our new attacking trio uptop. I would be surprised if we didn't win more games. This change won't make us a world class team immediately but it's much better than the slow, boring 3-4-2-1. If Amorim does end up being sacked, the Utd higher ups should have to explain why exactly such a stubborn specialist manager was their first choice. What was the reasoning behind it? I think they took all the constant criticism about Utd nor having any identity or playing style and decided to bring in someone who wouldn't compromise on how he plays. It's his way or nothing else. It's proving to be a horrible mistake and we're in free fall.

 

[izec]

He is just stubborn and not good enough. He doesnt need more time or better transfers, he is not good enough. Same as our past managers, more time will only show that he is a car crash of a manager. He had enough time and money to show he has what it takes. More time and money will not turn him into a very good manager all of a sudden.

What are we waiting for? Sack him ASAP

 

[Red & White]

It’s mental to think, if he and the players had managed to beat 10-man Everton at home (for nearly the whole game), a very poor West Ham, who are in the relegation zone (at home) and then Wolves, who are on 2 points after 14 games, we’d be in joint third place, only 3 points off the leaders, Arsenal. I know the “if my aunty had…” saying, but that’s why our inconsistent and poor performances this year are even more frustrating than ever - a great league campaign is literally there for the taking but we don’t appear to have the desire or tactical nous to grab it.

 

[Offside]

The fact you're even using terms like "neck in neck" with a Liverpool side who have been a laughing stock this season is bizarre. This is exactly what we're talking about when talking about standards at this club. It's not about negativity, it's actually about remembering who Manchester United should be as a club. Not a club that's just content to be neck and neck with a shit Liverpool side, but a club that should be taking their demise as inspiration to win some fecking games of football. Something our current manager is failing at miserably for a year of PL football now.

I’m not saying I’m content with being 12th just because we’re level on points with Liverpool. However, saying us only being level with them when they’re “a laughing stock” is ridiculous. They won their first 5 games this season, that’s 15 points and we’re only in December. Us being level on points with them and you’re using that as a reason to moan.

It’s not even like the situation is that they’re down in 15th and so are we and I’m here like “well it’s all going brilliantly because we’re ahead of Liverpool”. We can actually go into the CL places (top 5) with a win on Monday night. Again, I’m not saying all is rosey, but it’s a valid criticism of someone who’s actually meaning about the fact we’re only level on points with the PL champions because they’re having a nightmare, when actually they started the season amazingly and aren’t that far off the top 4, so is being level with them means we aren’t either.

 

[Offside]

but that’s why our inconsistent and poor performances this year are even more frustrating than ever - a great league campaign is literally there for the taking but we don’t appear to have the desire or tactical nous to grab it.

We aren’t consistent enough. That’s where we are. There’s games like Palace away, Chelsea at home where we won when people weren’t expecting us to. A great league campaign isn’t there for the taking as it’s not as though we’re not a brilliant side who’s beating everyone and then bottling it in games we should be winning - we could drop points in any game. We are where we are and it’s frustrating, but at least we’re also winning some games unexpectedly alongside dropping points in games that look easier on paper.

 

[Jev]

I’m not saying I’m content with being 12th just because we’re level on points with Liverpool. However, saying us only being level with them when they’re “a laughing stock” is ridiculous. They won their first 5 games this season, that’s 15 points and we’re only in December. Us being level on points with them and you’re using that as a reason to moan.

It’s not even like the situation is that they’re down in 15th and so are we and I’m here like “well it’s all going brilliantly because we’re ahead of Liverpool”. We can actually go into the CL places (top 5) with a win on Monday night. Again, I’m not saying all is rosey, but it’s a valid criticism of someone who’s actually meaning about the fact we’re only level on points with the PL champions because they’re having a nightmare, when actually they started the season amazingly and aren’t that far off the top 4, so is being level with them means we aren’t either.

Wow.

 

[Amsterdam Devil]

I’m not saying I’m content with being 12th just because we’re level on points with Liverpool. However, saying us only being level with them when they’re “a laughing stock” is ridiculous. They won their first 5 games this season, that’s 15 points and we’re only in December. Us being level on points with them and you’re using that as a reason to moan.

It’s not even like the situation is that they’re down in 15th and so are we and I’m here like “well it’s all going brilliantly because we’re ahead of Liverpool”. We can actually go into the CL places (top 5) with a win on Monday night. Again, I’m not saying all is rosey, but it’s a valid criticism of someone who’s actually meaning about the fact we’re only level on points with the PL champions because they’re having a nightmare, when actually they started the season amazingly and aren’t that far off the top 4, so is being level with them means we aren’t either.

So you relate our progress to what Liverpool is doing?

 

[Sky1981]

I remember some of the amorim die hard supporter was hounding Jose off for finishing second. Second not good enough, shit defensive football, etc.

 

[Offside]

So you relate our progress to what Liverpool is doing?

Nope. I’m criticising someone who is. I’m not making any point beyond the fact that it’s not a valid criticism of Manchester United’s standards that Liverpool are having their worse season in years and are above us still, when are fans are still angry at the state of things and only 5 weeks ago their fans were acting like they’re the best thing since sliced bread. So it’s more of a criticism of their standards.

 

[lilcurt]

Is the history of SAF almost being sacked before he became our best ever manager really still the reason that as a club, we continue with managers that clearly can't cut it?

In the past I almost saw it as noble, a sort of high morale code that positioned us different to other clubs. We wanted to give managers time.

Today, I just think we are negligent as a club and it has become clear that sporting excellence and achievement isn't the primary focus of the board.

Amorim, a manager who talks about standards for the players, isn't held to any himself. Early on I liked his openness in interviews, of late it comes off a nonsense and unjust (comments on Dorgu, Yoro, Kobbie), a man who punches down on young players whilst ignoring the issues caused by the seniors.

I don't think any other club in the league, this far away from their targets would persist with Amorim. He has shown nothing to warrant getting more time, the style of play is shocking.

We play our:
Best 10 in CM.
Winger at 10
Winger at RB
RB at LB
Two fullback at CB

Is it any wonder we can't be consistent?

A system or 'idea', is one thing. But at some point a manager worth his salt has to look at the players he has and find the best solution with them. It feels like Amorim or using our club as an experiment to try and prove to himself his system can work.

I'm past being on the fence, we really need a change.

You look at teams like Villa and realise that the rhetoric we are fed about it taking 3 or 4 years doesn't need to be so.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

'24-'25
Ipswich 1 Utd 1 (lost a lead)
Utd 3 Bodo/Glimt 2
Utd 4 Everton 0
Arsenal 2 Utd 0
Utd 2 Forest 3
Plzen 1 Utd 2
City 1 Utd 2
Spurs 4 Utd 2
Utd 0 Bournemouth 3
Wolves 2 Utd 0
Utd 0 Newcastle 2
Liverpool 2 Utd 2
Arsenal 4 Utd 6
Utd 3 Southampton 1
Utd 1 Brighton 3
Utd 2 Rangers 1
Fulham 0 Utd 1
FCSB 0 Utd 2
Utd 0 Palace 2
Utd 2 Leicester 1
Spurs 1 Utd 0
Everton 2 Utd 2
Utd 3 Ipswich 2
Utd 4 Fulham 5
Sociedad 1 Utd 1 (lost a lead)
Utd 1 Arsenal 1 (lost a lead)
Utd 4 Sociedad 1
Leicester 0 Utd 3
Forest 1 Utd 0
Utd 0 City 0
Lyon 2 Utd 2 (lost a lead)
Newcastle 4 Utd 1
Utd 5 Lyon 4
Utd 0 Wolves 1
Bournemouth 1 Utd 1
Athletic 0 Utd 3
Brentford 4 Utd 3
Utd 4 Athletic 1
Utd 0 West Ham 2
Chelsea 1 Utd 0
Spurs 1 Utd 0
Utd 2 Villa 0

'25-'26
Utd 0 Arsenal 1
Fulham 1 Utd 1 (lost a lead)
Grimsby 14 Utd 13
Utd 3 Burnley 2
City 3 Utd 0
Utd 2 Chelsea 1 (Chelsea early red)
Brentford 3 Utd 1
Utd 2 Sunderland 0
Liverpool 1 Utd 2
Utd 4 Brighton 2
Forest 2 Utd 2 (lost a lead)
Spurs 2 Utd 2 (lost a lead)
Utd 0 Everton 1 (Everton early red)
Palace 1 Utd 2
Utd 1 West Ham 1 (lost a lead)

And for comparison, Erik's 14 matches last season:
Utd 7 City 8
Utd 1 Fulham 0
Brighton 2 Utd 1
Utd 0 Liverpool 3
Southampton 0 Utd 3
Utd 7 Barnsley 0
Palace 0 Utd 0
Utd 1 Twente 1
Utd 0 Spurs 3
Porto 3 Utd 3
Villa 0 Utd 0
Utd 2 Brentford 1
Fenerbache 1 Utd 1
West Ham 2 Utd 1

Son?

@BenitoSTARR , is this your alt account?

Offspring

Man I was so close to tagging him

<3

It's as good as a bloody fingerprint.

Caught rainbow handed.

Haha. Inspired by maybe, subconsciously. I just wanted to see the chronological entirety of his reign here. And it looks more shit than I remembered. And I kind of see Erik's 14 matches from last season slightly better now, than I did back then. Even though I think Erik was completely out of his depth. I do think Amorim is worse though.

<3

Our boy Benito makes these many-hued tapestry posts when we play WW, so it was merely the Technicolor aspect and not the content .

I’m the Joseph the Musical of WW

I think he also had some lovely breakdowns of stats during Erik's managerial reign. But I didn't remember it until you brought him up. Multi-talent that kid.

My mom says I’m cool.

 

[Manncunian]

Amorim is the first time post-SAF that it feels like we’ve got absolutely zero chance in all of the cup competitions. On top of the fact we have no European football, it’s simply unforgivable.

With other managers, even when we were fairly dreadful in the league (albeit compared to Amorim’s tenure, we were phenomenally better) we could always feel hope in the cups, whether that be League Cup, FA Cup, and even the Europa. And this is evident from the fact we won some of these cups over the last 12 years.

But now, can any of you honestly say that you feel optimistic for this year’s FA Cup? We already went out in spectacular fashion to Grimsby in the League Cup (sackable offence imho, as was the EL Final loss to Spurs). And this is in a season where we have fewer games.

If you truly believe this is an acceptable position to currently be in, then your standards have dropped lower than should ever be acceptable for Manchester United.

 

[r0663664]

When is the last dominant victory by Amorim? I think none. Even if we score 2 goals, our opponents will always find a way to score. Amorim is just a poor poor manager. Hoping he leaves soon.

 

[Joga Bonito]

Almost every manager post SAF offered a glimmer of hope and something for the fans to hold on to, with the clear exception of David Moyes.

LVG with his proven pedigree for Ajax and Bayern, was just coming off an impressive campaign for Netherlands at the WC where he made the most of the relatively underwhelming squad for the Dutch. There was also the aspect of LVG giving chances to the youth, which was evident in his tenure with us. He was also funny and charismatic but his football was unbelievably unimaginative, boring and his obstinacy was the end of him.

Jose was also a proven winner and someone who put results above everything else. He did win some trophies with us and we were somewhat competitive. His personality and outdated tactics proved to be incompatible with the club's values though.

Ole was a breath of fresh air after Jose, with his approach initially, and he delivered some promising results and we played some decent football with him for some time. However, his lack of tactical nous and naivety meant he could never truly be successful here.

ETH also recovered pretty well after a disastrous start and had some decent results and won some trophies. His donut-ball, extremely silly tactics, horrific transfers and stubbornness shone through in the end though.

Every manager showed some promise with regards to the results, trophies or youth management. There was something to hang on to and they all seemed to have some sort of pedigree or promise. What does Ruben Amorim have? I honestly don't get it. He's young and that's about it. I don't even see it with his so called smooth talking. The only things I seem to remember are his famous suffering quote, terrible media handling of the Rashford and Garnacho situation, which severely hamstrung us when we were trying to ship them out. I honestly don't mind a hard handed approach, when it comes to dealing with players who might not have met his expectation on the pitch or in the training ground. In fact this squad could use with some of that. However, making silly statements on the likes of Garnacho, Rashford or Mainoo in public is hardly the mark of a smooth talker or someone who is astute when it comes to managing the media.

I'm sure fans would be patient and would be willing to wait it out, if he had a promising or an adventurous tactical approach which needs some fine-tuning and time to come to fruition. Instead what we have is shit on a stick football, unbearable and brain-dead obstinacy, a refusal to adapt, neglect of youth players, non-existent in-game management and I could keep going on. I just do not see any sort of positives or potential whatsoever, unlike our previous managers. I can only see one reason why the higher ups haven't sacked him yet, and it must be because they've invested too much time and money into Amorim's philosophy, without possibly planning for a contingency plan if Amorim messes up. Any incoming manager planning to play a more conventional set-up with a standard 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 etc, would find it hard to manage this relatively unbalanced side of ours, which has a plethora of CBs, lacks a left winger, has a single CF (Zirkzee is more of a SS imo) and with both of our only wingers leaving for the AFCON. The higher ups must truly be praying that Amorim and his tactics somehow click miraculously because they are looking at another rebuild thanks to their and Amorim's incompetency. Nonetheless, firing Amorim and trying to stop the rot and facing the consequences earlier, trying to get ahead of it, is a lot better than letting it fester whilst somehow hoping for a miracle. However, that is precisely what this aimless lot will try to do.

 

[Chumpsbechumps]

Everton have gone on some run , still doesn’t make our result any better but look how “easy” it is to climb the table with a few wins.

Is the league strong or poor ? Like if United had of beaten Everton and West Ham (as they should have) and then beat wolves to be a few points off top, would anybody be looking at our squad and thinking its quality ? Probably not, so it’s a fair question to ask how good is the league this season?

It’s weird how strong Arsenal have looked but they were jammy to even beat us on opening day. Considering a few silly dropped points could have had this United team in the reckoning , I don’t know what to think of the league.

 

[Leftback99]

I remember some of the amorim die hard supporter was hounding Jose off for finishing second. Second not good enough, shit defensive football, etc.

Don't know who they are, but I remember you being heavily Ole out who finished second. Those were the days.

 

[peller]

Moyes had Januzaj (8 months)
LvG had Rashford
Mourinho had McTominay
Ole had Greenwood and Henderson
Ragnick had Elanga (6 months)
ETH had Garnacho and Mainoo
Amorim has ?????

Not only in the term of stats and numbers, Amorim also comes as the worst man united manager when it come to developing young academy players and we have bunch of exciting talents waiting to make their breakthrough, do we want Amorim to take care of them?

Amorim, a manager who talks about standards for the players, isn't held to any himself. Early on I liked his openness in interviews, of late it comes off a nonsense and unjust (comments on Dorgu, Yoro, Kobbie), a man who punches down on young players whilst ignoring the issues caused by the seniors.

I voiced my concern when he threw Garnacho off the bus last season but was met with hostile replies. Now i get it that Garnacho might be a cnut but he was just still a kid, he needed an adult to guide him and Amorim was supposed to be that adult. The fact hes treating another young players badly shouldnt come as suprise aswell.

Anyway I think everything we've seen from Amorim so far scream a manager who is lacking experience and emotional maturity which is understandable when you consider that Amorim has only started his managerial career 6 years ago.

 

[Chumpsbechumps]

Almost every manager post SAF offered a glimmer of hope and something for the fans to hold on to, with the clear exception of David Moyes.

LVG with his proven pedigree for Ajax and Bayern, was just coming off an impressive campaign for Netherlands at the WC where he made the most of the relatively underwhelming squad for the Dutch. There was also the aspect of LVG giving chances to the youth, which was evident in his tenure with us. He was also funny and charismatic but his football was unbelievably unimaginative, boring and his obstinacy was the end of him.

Jose was also a proven winner and someone who put results above everything else. He did win some trophies with us and we were somewhat competitive. His personality and outdated tactics proved to be incompatible with the club's values though.

Ole was a breath of fresh air after Jose, with his approach initially, and he delivered some promising results and we played some decent football with him for some time. However, his lack of tactical nous and naivety meant he could never truly be successful here.

ETH also recovered pretty well after a disastrous start and had some decent results and won some trophies. His donut-ball, extremely silly tactics, horrific transfers and stubbornness shone through in the end though.

Every manager showed some promise with regards to the results, trophies or youth management. There was something to hang on to and they all seemed to have some sort of pedigree or promise. What does Ruben Amorim have? I honestly don't get it. He's young and that's about it. I don't even see it with his so called smooth talking. The only things I seem to remember are his famous suffering quote, terrible media handling of the Rashford and Garnacho situation, which severely hamstrung us when we were trying to ship them out. I honestly don't mind a hard handed approach, when it comes to dealing with players who might not have met his expectation on the pitch or in the training ground. In fact this squad could use with some of that. However, making silly statements on the likes of Garnacho, Rashford or Mainoo in public is hardly the mark of a smooth talker or someone who is astute when it comes to managing the media.

I'm sure fans would be patient and would be willing to wait it out, if he had a promising or an adventurous tactical approach which needs some fine-tuning and time to come to fruition. Instead what we have is shit on a stick football, unbearable and brain-dead obstinacy, a refusal to adapt, neglect of youth players, non-existent in-game management and I could keep going on. I just do not see any sort of positives or potential whatsoever, unlike our previous managers. I can only see one reason why the higher ups haven't sacked him yet, and it must be because they've invested too much time and money into Amorim's philosophy, without possibly planning for a contingency plan if Amorim messes up. Any incoming manager planning to play a more conventional set-up with a standard 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 etc, would find it hard to manage this relatively unbalanced side of ours, which has a plethora of CBs, lacks a left winger, has a single CF (Zirkzee is more of a SS imo) and with both of our only wingers leaving for the AFCON. The higher ups must truly be praying that Amorim and his tactics somehow click miraculously because they are looking at another rebuild thanks to their and Amorim's incompetency. Nonetheless, firing Amorim and trying to stop the rot and facing the consequences earlier, trying to get ahead of it, is a lot better than letting it fester whilst somehow hoping for a miracle. However, that is precisely what this aimless lot will try to do.

This idea that Jose was outdated ignores what actually happened. He won the league with Chelsea a season before being United manager, your don’t lose that in 2 years. Then first two years, the club was clearly on an upward trajectory with Jose until he was undermined by the ringmaster Woodward (and Pogba) after the 2nd season was a massive reason why Jose snapped.

There’s an alternative universe where Ed Woodwards favourite commercially lucrative son Pogba was sold because he had an unworkable relationship with Jose and they had a whole summer to move him on.

United used those massive proceeds to get quality replacements and actually backed Jose with more than Fred and a young Dalot. Instead Jose was told to some how make it up with Pogba (which he tried by making him vice captain and Pogba constantly undermined him publicly) and Fred/Dalot signings to make up double digits on city after a 2nd place in the league.

United needed to do what Liverpool did with Klopp. They got him Allison and VVD when he was looking to push for top. United got Fred and Dalot to make that leap, that encapsulates United’s real ambitions. Top 4 was enough , keeping a commercially popular player was priority under the Glazers.

Jose was prime example of how United’s dysfunctional backwards setup completely undermined managers. Pogba was commercially more important then building a winning team and the club hung onto him even when the player wanted to leave for over half the time he was here.

 

[Eugenius]

Moyes had Januzaj (8 months)
LvG had Rashford
Mourinho had McTominay
Ole had Greenwood and Henderson
Ragnick had Elanga (6 months)
ETH had Garnacho and Mainoo
Amorim has ?????

Not only in the term of stats and numbers, Amorim also comes as the worst man united manager when it come to developing young academy players and we have bunch of exciting talents waiting to make their breakthrough, do we want Amorim to take care of them?



I voiced my concern when he threw Garnacho off the bus last season but was met with hostile replies. Now i get it that Garnacho might be a cnut but he was just still a kid, he needed an adult to guide him and Amorim was supposed to be that adult. The fact hes treating another young players badly shouldnt come as suprise aswell.

Anyway I think everything we've seen from Amorim so far scream a manager who is lacking experience and emotional maturity which is understandable when you consider that Amorim has only started his managerial career 6 years ago.

It also has to be said he wanted Watkins over Sesko and Martinez over Lammens this summer. Two players in their 30s. And decided both needed a few games on the bench before playing them to settle in.

 

[TheRedDevil'sAdvocate]

De Gea was much more responsible than Mourinho for that second place finish. After that, when his two-year cycle was completed, he threw his toys out of the pram, basically begging to get the sack. There was no way that team was on route to compete against prime Pep and Klopp. The big mistake wasn't the refusal to give him another war chest, but renewing his contract earlier, having learnt nothing from his previous history, but believing instead that he would become our long-term dream manager.

 

[Chumpsbechumps]

De Gea was much more responsible than Mourinho for that second place finish. After that, when his two-year cycle was completed, he threw his toys out of the pram, basically begging to get the sack. There was no way that team was on route to compete against prime Pep and Klopp. The big mistake wasn't the refusal to give him another war chest, but renewing his contract earlier, having learnt nothing from his previous history, but believing instead that he would become our long-term dream manager.

Nonsense

The club totally undermined him

 

[Baleba_dor]

In football everything happens in cycles. Teams are starting to play more direct again. Even city are starting to evolve that way.

You need to not only understand United’s history but also the history of the PL. teams that score goals win.

Obviously, yet I see most of the fanbase represented here, diverting back to SAF every time it's downplayed, how we play now vs how we used to play. They are like in a time loop and can't get out of it.

The thing is, we need to score more goals first to even consider being more relevant and actually put together some string of results.

There isn't a wonder way that Manchester United is only capable to play a 4-4-2 or "with Wingers". We need to finally overcome that chip on our shoulder. There isn't some magical club DNA*. We have bounced from a style to style from a manager to manager, without a long term plan. I have so much more belief in INEOS and the people they brought here than I have had even since we got Moyes.

 

[LukeTheRed]

We aren’t consistent enough. That’s where we are. There’s games like Palace away, Chelsea at home where we won when people weren’t expecting us to. A great league campaign isn’t there for the taking as it’s not as though we’re not a brilliant side who’s beating everyone and then bottling it in games we should be winning - we could drop points in any game. We are where we are and it’s frustrating, but at least we’re also winning some games unexpectedly alongside dropping points in games that look easier on paper.

For me the Palace & Chelsea games just cover over the cracks. When you look at the circumstances in each game are any really ‘shock’ results?

Palace absolutely battered us in the first half - should’ve been out of site. Second half you could tell they were knackered from their Thursday night European game. If palace played us after a week or so off I guarantee you they’d have battered us.

Chelsea went down to 10 men early on and Maresca for some unknown reason took off all his pacy attackers - if he left them on I believe they’d have got something vs us.

 

[IncyWincySpider]

I think this is probably the biggest month of the season for us. Six games (played one already) and AFCON to deal with. Two games against wolves, a crappy looking Bournemouth and of course a terrible west ham who we dropped points to.

Eighteen points available, one earned so far. Doing the double over wolves and beating Bournemouth would get us ten points. Would that be good enough?

 

[Sky1981]

Don't know who they are, but I remember you being heavily Ole out who finished second. Those were the days.

Not me. I gave him credit for finishing 2nd. Points is points. He did get 2nd at the end of the day

 

[soapythecat]

When is the last dominant victory by Amorim? I think none. Even if we score 2 goals, our opponents will always find a way to score. Amorim is just a poor poor manager. Hoping he leaves soon.

Everton last season. Only game I can think of with him in charge when I didn’t think we’d concede or end up drawing.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Weren't you in the other thread saying Slot should be sacked? Your views seem a bit inconsistent, seeing as they're both occupying roughly the same place in the table right now.

I haven't once said Amorim shouldn't be sacked - I said he won't be sacked. But sure, read into that whatever you want. I see nothing wrong with wanting to support someone the club are backing because I don't think the alternative is helpful. Negativety isn't good for you.

 

[Sky1981]

We owed nothing to Amorim. He got jumped in 2 months in a new season, but he too granted a lot of leeway in his first season. I dont expect top 4 but 5-6th respectable finish. Not 15th.

That's a free fall. Does having 1 month pre-season really matters that much? At best you have 5 games on the get go. He had 30 games, that should be more than enough to tinker and find the right formula.

We should be the fittest top club since we play once a week. But even that is too much to ask it seems. We should be pressing like mad and made good use of our once a week schedule.

 

[Dearg hÉireann]

Yeah the problem is if we sack now, which interim can do better than 8th? Sometimes it really works out like it did with guys like Glasner. But I don't really see anyone who can come in for 6 months, get us European football and leave. The bigger worry is this PPG is with the full squad and no injuries. With afcon you'd think it only gets worse.

The manager market in the summer is going to be good with guys like Tuchel, Nagelsmann and Iraola available so I think we need an interim till then and not a full time appointment.

All that said, I'm sick of seeing his face on the sidelines so I wouldn't mind a punt on someone.

Yeah it’s hard to see past a further drop off when we lose Amad and Mbeumo (not so much Maz). I think Amorim has had his shot and he’s made a balls of it thus far.
Will he turn it around? Personally can’t see it but here’s hoping!

 

[Tom Van Persie]

 

[Chip]

What a tone deaf thing to say. Sunk cost fallacy at its finest innit

 

[golden_blunder]

I hate that saying. Was it ETH that started it?

 

[JPRouve]

I hate that saying. Was it ETH that started it?

I'm pretty sure that they are stealing it from the NBA and the 76ers. And if you don't know "The Process" failed miserably.

 

[mav_9me]

He didn't did he?

He's got to go, let's be honest.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Two different situations, imagine that.

 

[Mercurial]

I hate that saying. Was it ETH that started it?

Uncle's divorce lawyer used to say that before uncle got scraped bare.

 

[golden_blunder]

I'm pretty sure that they are stealing it from the NBA and the 76ers. And if you don't know "The Process" failed miserably.

ETH used to say it here too

 

[Joga Bonito]

 

[JPRouve]

ETH used to say it here too

Yeah, "The Process" is from around 2015. Maybe it's a coincidence but people all over Sport begun to use the term and it was in the context of the 76ers being historically bad for a few years kind of on purpose.

 

[AaronRedDevil]

I hate that saying. Was it ETH that started it?

LVG.