The cubicles were full and he’s full of shit
Ruben Amorim - AC Milan head coach (not manager, or perhaps manager)
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He just gaslit us all instead
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I disagree that it was knee jerk. He was fortunate to be kept on after losing to Spurs in the final, and should've been sacked after Grimsby. If not then, probably Everton. He had chance after chance, and would've probably still been here if he hadn't got himself sacked after throwing his toys out the pram. Like all of our previous full time managers post Fergie, we kept him on longer than we should've.
Carrick may not succeed, but he's done a lot more to warrant optimism/patience than Amorim did.
Most are disagreeing with you and I think they're right. He 100% wanted the sack and was happy when he got it. The last couple or so months of his tenure he gave up and sacrificed points in order to prove a point like a child.
Found Amorims burner account.
I'm on a full hate watch for this loser. I feel bad for AC Milan fans I dont want them to suffer but I want Amorim to fail drastically.
Looks like it
I would love it if we fecking beat tbem!!!
Mainoo hat trick please
Watched the highlights of their friendly against Celtic. The back 3 looked like a complete mess who didn't understand what they were meant to be doing.
Gave me horrific flashbacks.
Gave me horrific flashbacks.
I disagree - maybe at the very end, the final press conference, he was, but for the rest of his tenure, I am pretty sure he was trying - nobody goes into a job trying to fail, it's complete BS to think he was. Was he good enough, no. Was he far too stubborn with his formation, yes. I still wish him the best and hope he does well at AC Milan.
I agree with you up to the bolded part and that’s for one reason; he never thanked the match going fans. Now sure, a lot of those statements thanking fans etc are pure lip service and PR fluff, but he got way more support from the stands than his results merited. To not acknowledge the fans on leaving was really poor form and very much turned me towards “go on, f**k off. Hope you fail spectacularly, you prick”
I found that a bit of a slap in the face too. The support he was given home and away was absolutely staggering compared to what he'd experience at any other club our size if he gave them the same results and magically kept his job.
I've even seen opposition fans who love to poke fun at us stop and say "but feck me you support your managers properly".
He went a year after every bad result - meaning pretty much twice a week - with some variation of "oh boy i sure am doing a terrible job here, if I were my boss I'd sack me.
"For whatever reason both the fans and his bosses chose to interpret that as the guy being frank and speaking his mind and admitting his faults, so in the end he had to outright spell it out for them
I have seen this movie too many times. Playing at the back and concede stupid goals. Morim football
Oh wow
He can't be a real person, surely it is just a troll account?
He went a year after every bad result - meaning pretty much twice a week - with some variation of "oh boy i sure am doing a terrible job here, if I were my boss I'd sack me.
For whatever reason both the fans and his bosses chose to interpret that as the guy being frank and speaking his mind and admitting his faults, so in the end he had to outright spell it out for them
Exactly, not only did his performance deserve sacking way before he did, he kept bloody literally asking to be/admitting his deserved to be sacked!
I wasnt being serious, sorry man. Absolutely make your way to the San Siro especially for a derby if you can afford it. I felt an opportunity wasted after having spent a week in Milan and nearly a month in Torino to not see a match there. I did see Torino-Napoli where McTominay scored the only goal, which was a nice consolation. Nice stadium and nice fans, Torino.
If you read that post carefully enough, you can hear the music for Eminem’s Stan.
He didn’t go into the job trying to fail, no. He definitely gave up by the end, though, and was happy he got sacked.
Did he ever have back to back wins? I honestly can’t remember.
I don't think he has any idea how to properly coach a a back 3. He is clearly so tied to it but it always looks so shaky and uncertain.
I think he said himself that he hardly ever played in one during his career.
I think he said himself that he hardly ever played in one during his career.
He is winging it. (wing backing it?)
Yeah once or twice during his miserable spell here
Those were the days
Likely to be staying in Como, so possibly get to a game there as well. The San Siro won’t be there much longer, and I think it’s one of the most iconic stadia in Europe, so want to see it before it’s gone. Even though not serious, the Como shoot is a good one.
Great moment you had at that match.
If he'd got 4 points out of 9 from those we'd have been about 15th.
I honestly think he left us at his peak and he knew it. His acolytes used his exit leave position as evidence it was going well enough.
The truth is that no matter what you think about his tactics, his training or even the results. It's just really evident that the job was too big for him and he was absolutely shell shocked by it.
Another story came out the other day about the 2-2 draw against Everton in his first season. At half time we were 2-0 down and he didn't even talk to the team, he just stood bent over in the hall with his head in his hands. Fletcher had to give the teamtalk and we got it back to 2-2.
Saw it at Grimsby, saw it in the things he said and in how he ultimately got sacked. The job swallowed him up, too big for him.
I have real concerns about Carrick's level (fully backing him as he's the manager) but even with those concerns, he's comfortable in the size of it all.
This post clearly says a lot about you.
get out! (I believe it too)Same re Carrick, I think you'd have to be a deluded fan to think he's some sort of managerial genius or perhaps even the man to lead Man United back to the promised land, but what we need after the last two appointments, is a manager that just doesn't do fundamentally moronic things (like Eriksen in a midfield 2 v Newcastle) or playing a system that highlights most of the teams weaknesses - and you trust Carrick on that front.
In a way I actually feel bad for Amorim when I see these things.
Same re Carrick, I think you'd have to be a deluded fan to think he's some sort of managerial genius or perhaps even the man to lead Man United back to the promised land, but what we need after the last two appointments, is a manager that just doesn't do fundamentally moronic things (like Eriksen in a midfield 2 v Newcastle) or playing a system that highlights most of the teams weaknesses - and you trust Carrick on that front.
I used the word "shell shocked" which is a touch dramatic but it almost felt like that towards the end. He just looked drained.
But yeah, not what we need.
This is simultaneously the most ridiculous story ever but also very believable.
Bleh. You guys don't seem to realize Meeelan come from Allegri
They managed to blow what appeared to be an extremely easy and straight forward top 4 placement with like 8 games to go
The back 3 is nothing new to them, the brutally terrible defence is nothing new to them, to anemic attack is nothing new to them, the sufferball is nothing new to them
All of which is to say, the bar for Amorim to do well is about as low as it was when he took the United job
So it would be a mythological run if he manages to be that bad in this job too
They managed to blow what appeared to be an extremely easy and straight forward top 4 placement with like 8 games to go
The back 3 is nothing new to them, the brutally terrible defence is nothing new to them, to anemic attack is nothing new to them, the sufferball is nothing new to them
All of which is to say, the bar for Amorim to do well is about as low as it was when he took the United job
So it would be a mythological run if he manages to be that bad in this job too
He had this "Come on man!! This all worked perfectly in my head, when I thought about it. Why is it not working on the ground?" expression.
It is like playing chess at home, alone, and you are controlling both sides. But then you try to play against an actual opponent and you find out the opponent is not making the same moves that you did while you were playing alone and get "shell shocked".