Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

I always said I'd rescind judgement for him this season given Berrada's influence, but given West Ham have had just as many losses in the league as United it puts things into perspective with regards to how bad a manager Amorim has been.

I think the hierarchy should seriously consider giving him the boot at the end of season because his league form will very likely continue to be poor next season. It's not sustainable.
 
He's going to be under huge pressure starting off next season. Problem is who is out there that will improve us that's available
 
I want him to succeed and I don't want to say amorim out but this is a hard watch every week and even his selections are not good.
 
Just not good enough.

Of course there's still a chance he comes good, but in my opinion the risk of a repeat of ETH, keeping a manager with more red flags than points only to sack him a few months in, outweighs that chance
 
Shark said:
All I'll say is that if we let last summer repeat itself and we're looking at another league season like this one, for the third season on the bounce, it could finish the club. We thought it couldn't get worse after this season, and it can definitely get worse next season again.
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Finish the club? What on earth is that based on? What does it even mean? United have been through far worse than a few bad seasons on more than one occasion.
 
Acquire Me said:
Only a few matches to go. Who the feck cares about Premier League at this point.
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I know what you mean, but it's about standards. We can't be accepting losing over and over again, it becomes a habit. Ruben talks a good game about knowing it's not good enough, but.. that has to mean something, there has to be accountability somewhere. Perhaps this summer the players will feel it, but it's also on him and his coaching team to a degree. He'll not be sacked in the summer, especially not if we win in Europe, but the start next season is critical and if we go into it in the same form he'll not last long.
 
Pity the match goings fans forking out huge money to be entertained by these players
 
Even if somehow we manage to win the Europa League, I still think we should move on. It might sound harsh, but we can’t get blinded by a trophy and ignore the bigger picture.

His system needs a very specific set of players—wing-backs, ball-playing CBs, a deep-lying playmaker, etc.—and we just don’t have the squad nor the funds to bring enough players for that.

Even if somehow we can get the money giving him the funds to build his ideal team would be a massive risk, especially when the results and performances since he came in haven’t exactly screamed “this is the guy.” If anything, we’ve looked just as or more disjointed than before, only now we’re trying to force players into roles they clearly don’t suit.

It’d actually be better for Amorim too. He leaves on a high with a European trophy, and he’s got the perfect out: came in halfway through a mess, not his squad, still delivered silverware. His rep stays fairly intact. If we keep him and things go sideways next season, that narrative disappears and he just becomes another name on our long list of failed rebuilds.

Feels like we’ve been here before with ten Hag.

It’s depressing to be in this position because I genuinely like Amorim, but the results have gone beyond anything acceptable. The club feels rotten to the core, and I don’t see how it can be repaired without a complete overhaul starting with the ownership, the culture, and the people running it.

This isn’t a one-man job. No manager can fix this on their own, not when the problems run this deep. And as grim as it sounds, I think relegation is a real possibility in the next few seasons. We’re not just stagnating we’re getting worse.
 
Irwin99 said:
Wonder if he might actually just quit at the end of the season. From punching tvs and admitting we’re the worst a United side in premier league history, he cant be happy or optimistic with this.
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It would be insane to walk away from the huge payout he'd receive from getting sacked.
 
JBG said:
Lots of people during the matches. Understandable because we've been shit. But personally, meh.

Like I understand the people who are sick and want Amorim gone on the basis of PL results. But I choose to focus on what he and the players have done in the EL(where it has mattered most this season) and hopefully that is more of a sign of what we will see next season(with better players coming in) and not what has been shown in the PL lately.
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This season was always going to be shit after Erik ten Hag, but somehow we got things going in the EL. I do focus on EL as well. The league was gone a long time ago.

We do need to be ruthless and effective in the summer. Lots of players need to be moved on and obviously we need new signings.
 
pascell said:
I do and so should the players, as they're still playing for their pride and right to be a Man United player.

How many seasons are we going to keep on writing off as we're not challenging for the league.

The standards are rock bottom.
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I keep hearing people wanting to give him until Christmas if he wins Europa to show if he has what it takes in the EPL. Surely, if he’s not hitting the ground running during the first 5-7 games he should be out of the door? People are so happy to completely write off another season again by waiting all the way until Christmas (at that point the league is again almost written off) before making their minds up. The club is rotten as far as standards go.
 
Sell every player we get decent money for (with only a few exceptions) and let Amorim build from scratch. This team and the ideas of the manager don‘t go together.
 
OUT, OUT, OUT.
Hasn’t shown a proper PL game since his arrival when I’ve thought ‘yes, this will work,.
Whether it’s the coaching, system, or his man management but it’s showing on the pitch as the worst we’ve had since big Ron.
I’m sure folk will come at me, but I don’t buy a few players will make this work. We don’t have the money to do this. We go into next season with him in charge and we are going to be one of the favourites to go down and you won’t be able to argue with it.
Save money on buying a WB for this system - spend it on sacking him. Not good enough now and won’t be with a few players either.
 
Losing the UEL final would be catastrophic at this point. He's come in and made us the worst of the rest. It's not excusable in any way.
 
We're a worse team than we were this time last year.

Whether you think he should be kept or not I don't really care, but no one can say he's improved us whilst keeping a straight face. We're going backwards.

The league will always mean more to me than any cup, and I just can't turn a blind eye to the fact we're in 16th. That's unforgivable
 
All he had to do was pick a team such that nobody important got hurt, and he couldn't even manage that.

He absolutely has to go after the final, no matter the outcome.
 
If he doesn't win the EL, he's out the door, I think. Even if he does win the EL, he might still get canned.
 
It's not happening for him, is it? Do we have any real examples of such a turnaround? I like him but sacking him at the end of the season is probably the most sensible thing to do now. Continuing with this would be a monumental gamble. There are lots of mitigating circumstances but from our league performances there is nothing at all to suggest things are suddenly going to look good unfortunately.
 
No wonder ashworth walked, he knew this would be a disaster
 
I’m in the camp of him getting sacked no matter the result in the final, there is no excuse in how bad we’ve been, Wolves have recently just won 6 games in a row

We’ve won 4 league games since Boxing Day, and three were against the relegated sides, that is pathetic, yes a part of it is the players but if Wolves and Everton can get results then so should we.
 
All along I’ve been very much a supporter and after the board got rid of three attackers without replacing them I expected the second half of the season would be rocky!

However, the absolute pile of dog turd that he is dishing up is unacceptable under any circumstances. The way we play is boring and totally lacking any creativity. I’m teetering on the brink and wondering if allowing him free reign in the summer may now be foolish!
 
Shark said:
We're bordering on relegation man.
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No, we are extremely bad but we’re not bordering on relegation. We can describe how bad United are already without needing to go over the top. Even then, United have been relegated before. Talk of ‘finishing the club’ is just being silly.

I think some of you need to take a break from watching United for a while, in the league at least. The manager is not going to be sacked, and it’s not going to get much better any time soon. It doesn’t seem to be doing any good for you guys.
 
I was willing to forgive a lot when he came in in November because we were in such a fecking sorry state, but his record in the league is just genuinely shocking. Doesn't seem to get much of a response from his players either.
 
Attacking low block. How can we improve that? ETH wants quickest transition to prevent opponents forming low block or creating chaos. He failed. We now slowly build up to the final third and play in their half. But we can’t penetrate the low block. Every EPL team does it to us. We are so helpless.
 
He desperately needs to win this Europa League final. The league form has been nothing short of a complete disaster, and while he’s come in mid season trying to implement a radically different system without his own players these results will absolutely be held against him next season.

I suspect he’ll be on a very short leash going into next season and if the league form doesn’t pick up very quickly he could go the same way as ETH. The problem is we’ve committed to this 3 at the back system now and he’ll be backed in the summer, so any potential replacement will need to also play that system because chopping back to a back four mid season after signing specialists for that play style could see a repeat of this season and unfortunately the likes of Southampton, Leicester and Ipswich won’t be there to save us from relegation next time round.
 
Needs to go regardless of the result in Bilbao. We've played European football before this notion you can't play to win in both competitions is a new one on me.

His use of the media is madness as well, last week he said he couldn't predict how we'd perform on the field. He's earning multimillion pounds a year, that's like a 10 year old response in my opinion. You can't predict how your side is going to play even though you train them, day in day out.

The free ride he's getting is just crazy as well. When did it become acceptable to just turn up and play the games out like summer friendlies, if that's the case then just play the kids and don't risk first team players.

They should be refunding the fans for this madness.
 
Aretak said:
Exactly mate. None of that "pride" lark around these parts. It's a deadly sin. I was disgusted watching Southampton put an effort in against City yesterday and even moreso by West Ham today. All that effort, and for what? Someone should have told them that they had nothing to play for.
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Did I say I support the players? It’s over. What the hell can we do. Is the solution to fire Amorim, because he don’t want to win. He wants to win so bad. But he can’t do it because it’s well and truly over.
 
Wayne's World said:
He's going to be under huge pressure starting off next season. Problem is who is out there that will improve us that's available
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Ireola. PL proven and plays formations that suits some of the half decent players we have : Mainoo, Garnacho, Bruno.
His team carve out good chances by playing through teams.
I was hoping we’d get him after ETH, but I feel he is the best PL proven candidate out there.
 
Posh Red said:
No, we are extremely bad but we’re not bordering on relegation. We can describe how bad United are already without needing to go over the top. Even then, United have been relegated before. Talk of ‘finishing the club’ is just being silly.

I think some of you need to take a break from watching United for a while, in the league at least. The manager is not going to be sacked, and it’s not going to get much better any time soon. It doesn’t seem to be doing any good for you guys.
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United going down would be the end of the club as we know it. It's not the 70s anymore
 
The system simply doesnt work in the Premier League and just see's us embarass ourselves like today, he needs to either change it or walk away at this point
 
How many games now in which we haven't scored at OT?

Big decision coming up for SJR and the "best in class" team in the summer. I don't know how they'll justify giving him more time and money after what he has been serving up in the premier league. Tough to see him as the manager next season even if we win Europa.
 
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