Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

No, he wasn't. He was well onside and held his run for a few seconds, then was offside for a split second before moving back towards Antony looking for the pass which never came.



About 40 seconds into this you can see it.

Those runs from Hojlund are clearly instructed and it's so refreshing to see.
 
I will take that every day of the week. Only way to consistently win is to control the match.

People have forgotten and we didn't always use to press but even under SAF we mostly controlled the matches. And if we were ever looking for a winner or equalizer we would completely box them in their penalty box and leave Rio to deal with the counters.

Yes. Under SAF in most matches, apart from against really top teams, our CBs played from the halfway line and defenders were all required to defend one on one. Sometimes it leads to goals, but if we want to play attacking, front foot, high line football then that's the risk we take.
 
That's genuinely promising. To be 1st and 4th already is positive. Too many times in the last couple of years, we've no control even against the lower teams.
Yeah there's the classic "It's only Bodo/Glint" response but also we've been unable to control games against any teams, so this is a start. Plus Bodo are a solid side.
 
For the first time in a long time, we controlled the game. Opponents will always have chances in games, unfortunately, they were clinical and scored 2 really good goals.

Obviously, the way we play, the press and defence will take some time to perfect but it was a good sign, when you face such teams, you want to dominate and not give them the ball.

I know everyone says its only Bodo but we have been dominated at times by these oppositions on the transition in the past.

I am glad we saw a style.. the Everton game will be another good test.
 
Isn’t every club doing this?

Not really. It depends on the degree the manager wants to delegate coaching responsibilities. Some wish to be involved in every little detail, while some others prefer to focus on the bigger picture and trust their staff with the everyday details. Or it can be a mixed thing. Guardiola, for example, who's a very meticulous tactician and obsessed with the finer details, has admitted that his owes a lot to Lillo on the defensive side of the tactics.

Anyhow, it's a nothing article that provides some intel about the roles of the staff Amorim has already brought with him. We already knew that he trusts them a lot since he was adamant that he wanted them to follow him to OT, and the fee we paid to Sporting included them too.

It's good to see the Caf being open-minded, though. Solskjaer was annihilated on here when the news came out that Carrick and McKenna were the ones working with the players on the tactics.
 
Interesting.

Anyone know the names?
From source:

https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/s/EytoWVHtUF

"(copy pasted from what I posted on r/soccer)

Adélio works with the defenders, Emanuel Ferro with the midfielders and Carlos Fernandes with the strikers. There, you already have more information here than by reading the entire article - there is no mention as to which coach is assigned to where.

(that's how they were divided at Sporting as per Adélio's interview at the end of last season, don't think there's a reason for it to be different here)"
 
No, he wasn't. He was well onside and held his run for a few seconds, then was offside for a split second before moving back towards Antony looking for the pass which never came.



About 40 seconds into this you can see it.

give Anthony a break. You expect United player to pass with his right foot? Madness
 
Yeah there's the classic "It's only Bodo/Glint" response but also we've been unable to control games against any teams, so this is a start. Plus Bodo are a solid side.
Yeah, that was my first thought as well: Ipswich and Bodo/Glimt aren't really first-class opposition. But then where is Twente in this list, or why wasn't possession above 70% in that cup rout? It's clearly a big change.
 
What was interesting in the second half was how he brought on Dalot at LWB, but it was not Dalot providing width on the left, but rather Garnacho. On the ball, Dalot acted as the inside forward from the left, while Garnacho kept width. Off the ball, Dalot was the usual LWB.

Shows his tactical adaptability.
Yeah I loved seeing this. Really clever, adapting to each players strengths.
 
A Busy week ahead for Amorim. 3 games in the Prem could be a huge points difference if United could string a few wins together.

Sunday - Everton
Wednesday - Arsenal
Saturday - Forrest
 
A Busy week ahead for Amorim. 3 games in the Prem could be a huge points difference if United could string a few wins together.

Sunday - Everton
Wednesday - Arsenal
Saturday - Forrest
Arsenal will be a big test for us. Shame it is so soon in Ruben's reign but will be a good test to see how far he has come
 
No, he wasn't. He was well onside and held his run for a few seconds, then was offside for a split second before moving back towards Antony looking for the pass which never came.



About 40 seconds into this you can see it.


Antony is such an idiot sometimes. His man is clearly on the floor with Mount in acres of space onside, and he checks back onto his left and plays a backpass. He doesn't even need to use his right foot either. That's a piss easy left foot slip into the channel. It's bafflingly easy. :lol:

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That seems mental. How have we been that crap in Europe for so long?

Under SAF we were playing in the Champions League and he wasn't one for possession for possession sake and so the 70+ possession stat wouldn't be something you would have expected us to reach much.
 
Under SAF we were playing in the Champions League and he wasn't one for possession for possession sake and so the 70+ possession stat wouldn't be something you would have expected us to reach much.
even considering this we’ve been playing in the Europa for many years at this point. It’s a strange stat.
 
even considering this we’ve been playing in the Europa for many years at this point. It’s a strange stat.

Fair, but based on how our managers have all decides to play it's not that much of a shock. None of them seemed to put much priority on possession apart from Van Gaal and he played risk adverse possession so the attacking stats suffered.

Probably more of a surprise that Amorim managed to set up the team to achieve those stats in just his second match
 
Arsenal will be a big test for us. Shame it is so soon in Ruben's reign but will be a good test to see how far he has come
Same as Ten Hag, he had Pool in his third game. And then Arsenal. But Amorim did not have a pre-season. He still could beat Arsenal though.
 
A Busy week ahead for Amorim. 3 games in the Prem could be a huge points difference if United could string a few wins together.

Sunday - Everton
Wednesday - Arsenal
Saturday - Forrest
I think I read on here that he's not averse to being pragmatic/defensive in the big games at times and I wonder if he'll be a little more cautious against Arsenal, especially with the wingbacks. We still look a little shaky defensively and I doubt he'd want to be too aggressive against Arsenal.
 
At a personal level,for the first time in years, I've heard a Utd manager/coach say that he wants his team not to give possession away needlessly. And he keeps emphasising this after each game so I feel it really grates on him, like me, that the players have to put a lot of effort getting the ball back only to then cheaply give it away!

There are some culprits that I feel won't improve this aspect of their game, so won't survive the cull, but if you cannot manage the most basic of skills asked of a professional footballers I have zero sympathy.
 
Hopefully by “rotate and Mount is a proper player” his setting the seeds for not starting Bruno
 
If we beat Everton convincingly, it would built good confidence into Arsenal. Why would anyone thinks that we will roll over against Arsenal? If everyone plays with energy and commitment, we can upset Arsenal. If we manage to beat Arsenal, we would be one step closer to top 4 and gives the rest of the season a boost. Let's do it.
 
Jack of all trades, master of none?

He he did also make the point that he's better on the right and they'd look to play him there. That seemed more like his main point than the rest of the quote actually.
 
Haven't seen this mentioned, have the U-21s etc adapted the tactical and formation principles and philosophy of the first team?

Seems like they have. According to the Match report against West Hams U21 they've started with 3 at the back with Amass and Kamason as the wing backs. In the post game interview the coach of our U21s also confirmed that they're replicating the system of the first team, so that the players understand the demand of the system.
 
I will take that every day of the week. Only way to consistently win is to control the match.

People have forgotten and we didn't always use to press but even under SAF we mostly controlled the matches. And if we were ever looking for a winner or equalizer we would completely box them in their penalty box and leave Rio to deal with the counters.
Yeah, I'd much prefer us to take the risks as well. As long as we're creating chances and scoring it's worth it. It only becomes an issue when you're not getting goals and consistently conceding on the counter.
 
Yeah there's the classic "It's only Bodo/Glint" response but also we've been unable to control games against any teams, so this is a start. Plus Bodo are a solid side.
The "it's only..." line is probably the thing I hate most about post match discussions. Far too many people think we should be steaming rolling all but about 10 teams across Europe.

It doesn't work like that, and it'd be fairly shit if it did. What would be the point in watching football if the majority of games were like a training match for us?

Absolutely nothing wrong with saying we could have been better, but we don't have any right to disrespect the opposition and win every game comfortably.
 
Seems like they have. According to the Match report against West Hams U21 they've started with 3 at the back with Amass and Kamason as the wing backs. In the post game interview the coach of our U21s also confirmed that they're replicating the system of the first team, so that the players understand the demand of the system.

What's interesting is that Ruben himself said that it wasn't necessary that they do so. At that age he wants them to play under different formations and roles -- to learn the game better.