Pretty much all there is to it. You can debate that the succession planning was poor or non existent and that's fair, or that we jumped the shark by a week or two, but the decision itself really isn't up to debate
Ruben Amorim | Sacked
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Should be given a 2nd chance & then sack him again for signing Cunha.
has to go now, surely
Cunha was a club signing. They all are ffs
What people are saying is, it's a squad problem not a manager one.Its funny to read these comments because its almost like people haven't been watching him for 14 months.
32% win rate and we're here justifying that he should have stayed
Fletchers the interim for barely a week and he's already produced better football than I've seen for the last 2 years.
We got knocked out of the FA Cup by Fulham and out of the Carabao cup by Grimsby under Amorim, so that doesn’t stand up based on today’s evidence.
Today was as bad as anything we saw under Amourin.
I know right! Astonishing.
We won 4-2 as was pointed out a few times.
I replied to a poster who said we’d never be 0-2 under Amorim.
Yeah it’s best to pay full attention to the context.
Poster said Amorim would never be 0-2 down…
He lost to this opposition last season by 2 goals.
Alright Gary Neville.. You do realize saying something with conviction doesn't actually mean you know what you're talking about?
Whether you like it or not, he left the team in 6th place with a shite burnley coming up. We were also still in the fa Cup.
Sure, Amorim had his flaws and the sacking was the right decision but only because of the break down in his relationship with Wilcox who thinks he runs the place now, but you really want to discredit everything he did? You think that's fair? Or are you so biased against him that you would put the blame entirely on him?
He had his flaws obviously and some bizzare decisions but he was also given an incomplete squad and a load of empty promises it seems. To dismiss his coaching after watching the shite today is hilarious. We lost all pressing our pressing structure and everything was incredibly frantic throughout the football match.
We could barely create any chance against a Brighton team we scored 4 against only a couple months back. Sure, we were missing key attacking players, but thats not an excuse for RA so why is it now? I mean we played 4 atb, we played mainoo, we brought on lacey, as we did last game, so why have not even seen an uptick in performance Or results?
The team looks every bit as bad as when he was manager, I’m sure there are people who will delude themselves it would all have been different if he’d been in charge but we’ve been watching the same problems all season.
It’s never the wrong decision to remove a manager with less than 40% wins in matches managed. He was a shocking manager for us and arguably should’ve been removed after the loss to Tottenham. I’m shocked that people think we should have kept him when he made it clear he wanted out anyway, what do you think he would have done differently today that would’ve benefited us?
If we're being fair, Brighton opted to rest 6 of the XI that played in the league...
He wasnt actually that bad as some people make him out to be. He was average, but at least stable. Now we are shit and in free fall. None of the ex United boys are good enough to steady the ship. His sacking was pointless
True but were they as important as De Ligt, Mbeumo and Amad are to us? I doubt that.
He was shit. Us continuing to be shit doesn't change that.
Someone needs to buy a huge forehead sized stamp, and stamp 31.9% across yours.
Ah yes because we needed another RW to play the system so we bought Mbeumo to replace Amad; our best player last season & arguably a better player than Mbeumo already.
Then bought a player who is an LAM to fit Amorim's system because he couldn't integrate a LW to his first XI.
Club signings were done for his bloody system.
As good as Mbeumo was; he was a player we didn't need. We would be one midfielder up in our squad if Amorim didn't have this belief to play a winger as a wingback.
Signing a good LW & a CDM - our squad is balanced. Instead he signed a SS who played as an LAM, a RW and wanted a striker.
32%win rate.
Is that successful for you?
Sounds fair to me, second string Brighton. At Old Trafford. In the last hope of silverware this season. Fecking disaster.
His sacking leaves us with A LOT to do. Players like Mount and Cunha have no place in this system. We have no real LF. We have no proper midfielders. All this needs to be adressed urgently and will cost a LOT of money but I'm sure fecking INEOS were aware of that and have a plan
This is laughable. It's like some people have had their heads in the sand the last 18 months.
One win a month is I suppose you can say .. stable.
His sacking wasnt pointless it was well overdue and saying we are in freefall 1 league game after he was sacked is silly
Funny, because you're deliberately taking his comment out of context. When you have to change the season and the squad then you're not making a particularly good point...
Matchday thread was full of people saying 'well, at least it's much better than under Amorim!'. Couldn't make it up.
Except that today we had 5 players missing who played in October.
This image should be pinned at the top of every thread regarding Ruben Amorim.
They also played a heavily rotated side.
I don't really see what the point of this is though. Looking at single games to get a quick gotcha
It's much better. We don't have a saboteur in charge anymore, and the results aren't much worse than it used to be.
Wrong and very small time call because of some egos. The 433 might bring some more fluidity offensively but no control whatever with this squad - have to play with the inferior ugarte as cas doesnt have the legs for this system as it seems. We start at zero again as it seems. Its looking grimm as we were on an upwards trend - and dont come with shit stats from last season that was dead when Amorim took over. He steadied the ship and would have guided us to top5. Cant see it now but hopefully amad and mbeumo will get us going again. To see the positive side - we should be fresh for every game now. And sesko profits from the change
Lost 3-1 at home to Brighton last year too though, Amorim called them the worst United team in history.
Honestly mate now is not the time for just plain WUMing
He was a shit shite shite manager. I’ll take that to my deathbed. Worse manager in this clubs history.
I’d say he set us back as badly as ETH did but at least under Amorim we didn’t end up with a load of shite signings.
Standard wise he’s the worse thing to have happened to this club on the pitch.
Losing games week in week out with no consequence, with the promise of winning a European trophy only to pathetically lose said final.
8 wins from 20 games this season, despite having advantages over several other clubs in the league in terms of match to match recovery. Failed to beat West Ham,, Wolves, Bournemouth and Everton at home. Lost to Grimsby town.
He is absolutely shite but for some weird reason these players liked him , perhaps because he took all the pressure off them.
So they’re going to down tools now for the rest of the season, something I called a few days ago.
Not sure what game you watched but we almost definitely created chances both today and against Burnley.
But that doesn’t mean anything.
Did you expect everything to suddenly become good because we went to a back four and put Darren Fletcher in charge? Or do you think the people who loathed Amorim thought that. Because they absolutely did not.
You and your mob can come in here with your predictable narrative but I can say with complete certainty you’re the same people who were in here last season demanding Amorim be given time, pre season and lots of players whilst he drove United down to 15th in the league with the worse standard of football ever seen at this club.
Now we're really rolling. It was clearly the back 3 and manager that was the problem.Its funny to read these comments because its almost like people haven't been watching him for 14 months.
32% win rate and we're here justifying that he should have stayed
Fletchers the interim for barely a week and he's already produced better football than I've seen for the last 2 years.
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