Noone was saying that.
There were a few people saying it was the players and not the system
Ruben Amorim | Sacked
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There were a few people saying it was the players and not the system
And yet some here continue to defend. The guy couldnt even win 2 games in one month what to talk about winning 2 games in a row.This image should be pinned at the top of every thread regarding Ruben Amorim.
Brighton rested or had unavalable at least 5 first teamers today (Verbruggen, Dunk, Hecke, Baleba, Mitoma)
Exactly
It's no more likely that we would have beat Burnley or Brighton with him in charge.
That is quite damning.
That is quite damning.
You can the spot ones who aren't Manchester United fans in this thread. Defending a manager with a 32% win rate who cared more about being right than winning football matches for the club. We could pick anyone to be the head coach, and he'd still be a better choice than Amorim.
And we got better since then obviously.
No need for that
Sorry, I keep forgetting absolutely nothin that happened last season counts when judging Amorim: my bad .
How did we get better?
The results aren't much worse than it was under Amorim, and we don't have a manager that cares more about being right than winning anymore. So yes, it's much better.
Yep, and now he's gone we can see the clear improvement. Hurray
This is what happens when you constantly listen to knee jerk idiots. You end up with a wreck of a club.
Go look at the data, we were more stable team on an upward trajectory.
They 100% were saying that. I'm not gonna go through the thread and find them all. Do it yourself.
I think we have looked better in patches but overall it’s still the same issues. We can’t defend, midfield isn’t very good and every single game is a struggle.
I don’t think we’ll be much worse or better off by sacking Amorim, basically every game is a struggle and it’s such fine margin because we can’t control any game or win by more than a goal.
This just further proves they just have a better outfit/team than us. Imagine if we had players with some iq/intelligence in place of Dalot and Ugarte.
Hecke and Mitoma played today, they came on as substitutes so they were neither rested nor unavalable?
Maybe its just me, but I feel like the football is far better than anything amorim was able to cough up outside of the little run we had after beating pool.
And this is a Darren Fletcher led team minus Amad, Mbuemo, Maz, De Ligt etc. which he has had for barely a week. A manager with zero experience.
You've got to be thinking that the new caretaker manager will do better than the 35% win rate we've seen this season from amorim.
I reckon we’ve looked a lot worse since sacking him.
If you defend a manager with a 32% win rate over 18 months and believe he should still be Manchester United manager, you simply don't want the best for the club as far as I'm concerned.
We had a few really bad games this season. Everton, Wolves at home and Grimsby. Of the home matches, none of them felt as flat and insipid as the second half here. The ground was practically silent.
are people crashing out in here?
I think that was clear.
If our answer to his sacking is Ole, Ruud, Fletcher or Carrick, then it is just plaind dumb, as he hasnt lost the dressing room. Wilcox is the one that should be sacked.
I was happy that we sacked him initially, as i thought we would appoint a good manager that could improve until the summer. I dont want a permanent solution now, as this has not worked for Amorim mid season after Ten Hag, but we need to act like a big club and pull a surprise out of the hat or should have kept him unti the end of the season. It can get much worse with the names above.
I was happy that we sacked him initially, as i thought we would appoint a good manager that could improve until the summer. I dont want a permanent solution now, as this has not worked for Amorim mid season after Ten Hag, but we need to act like a big club and pull a surprise out of the hat or should have kept him unti the end of the season. It can get much worse with the names above.
What was the xg like tonight, any good?
so glad we got rid of ruben. onwards and upwards folks.
Some seem to think our attacking football has become a lot better these two matches under Fletcher.
Nah. I think you should look to take EVEN more out of context, just so you can find another reason to whine.
Did you really expect Darren Fletcher to undo the damage Amorim has done in only 1 week?
Sideways and sideways
So 16 months is too soon to judge but we can make sweeping conclusions after 2 games. At least we lost to a decent PL team today and not a fourth tier side.
And it's funny seeing the Amorim fanboys ignore the fact it's Darren Fletcher, just to support their agenda. Darren Fletcher.
Is this percentage including last seasons? When United loaned out Rashford, Sancho and Antony? Despite the latter players not being good, name any club who would send all their first team wingers out and not bring in replacements?
I’m not arguing whether Amorim was the man for the job but this win percentage is nonsense and out of context. There are many things to criticise him for but the win percentage always makes me laugh.
Not in the cups we didn’t with Amorim losing to Fulham, Spurs and Grimsby in cup games since that Brighton loss.
Uh huh. Sacking after 14 months is kneejerk, but expecting immediate improvement after 2 games isn't?
Amorim won one game in the last 5 he managed for us, we’re just seeing a continuation of that form which is hardly surprising considering we have a caretaker that hasn’t managed outside of youth games before.
Didn't see the outrage when he Fletch brough Maguire and Casemiro on, funny that.
No-one said things would immediately improve once we got rid of Amorim (though its certainly no worse).
The first game we played in the league cup this season was lost to fecking Grimsby. This is an improvement if anything.
How isn't it worse? Did you see our OOP shape today?
This season alone, it is 40%
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