Sir Jim is a snake oil salesman. Wouldn't believe 2 words that came out of his mouth
Ruben Amorim | Sacked
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The club remains a circus, absolute joke. Fletcher as manager just proves INEOS want a yes man and club lackey in charge. Jack Fletcher was a deer in headlights on the pitch, so why not have the manager be a deer in the headlights too.
Exactly this, they’ve made two good decisions at extremely poor times.
They backed Ten Hag and dropped him, now the same with Amorim because someone’s pride appears to have been hurt.
I don’t have any trust in these guys to run an elite football club. Amorim had to go, but that was after losing to Spurs…
Someone once suggested that they built the best training center in the whole Univers.
Now that is interesting. The McKenna bit. Not averse to that at all.
The Vivell bit is also interesting and I wonder how happy the three amigos are and whether they have boundaries between each other's mandates.
Happy Amorim is gone - time for United to heal and find their identity again. And also please patch things up with Mainoo
Hmm he hasn’t actually had a full season.
The results have not been great so he can’t complain, but 6th-8th is about the standard of this squad.
Just something for the next manager to remember…you don’t get time! First thing they shouldn’t make the mistake Amorim did and come mid season.
Ralf Rangnick to return
It’s a cult. They don’t support the club, they support the manager. And it doesn’t seem to matter how badly they perform. They can do no wrong. Much like supporters of other certain people around the globe who continue to support them no matter what their glorious leader does.
So what managers are available to come to United, get sacked and get paid next?
Probably I can do it!
Probably I can do it!
Him and Southgate are probably the 2 worst we could end up with, that are rumoured to us. Marersca apparently 4/1 according to the bookies(with Glasner the same) and Southgate 12/1
Wouldn't mind a Vivell coup, he seems like the only one with a good track record of competency.
In fairness, personally, I feel like you were a lot more objective with this guy than you were with say Ten Hag. You weren't constantly looking for reasons to moan - like say, I was (in fairness, I'd had enough
) - but you also weren't making excuses for the poor football/results and/or his weird self-serving press tantrums that weren't conducive of anything good for the club/team - and that's all one can really ask for.Funny thing is I liked him too initially, and wanted him to succeed - I think at one point I even referred to him as "batman with prep-time", but his immaturity and stubbornness started to show early and became aggravating quickly. The football was largely dross too, in-game management was poor - if not outright bizarre at times - all compounded by "we're gonna suffer" messaging that a lot of people were just happy to buy into. Guy was also an emotional wreck and constantly kept saying things that would spark some sort of drama. It all just felt a bit too amateurish/learning experience-ish, and that's just not what we need.
Hopefully, we can find some consistency now and secure a top 5 finish - this is the best season for it too because we're playing one game per week and a lot of the other teams are having abnormally poor seasons.
They have a game tomorrow, all his coaches will have gone, so needed someone immediately.
Ruben's PL record:
58 points from 47 matches
With a -6 goal difference (66 scored, 72 conceded)
Averaging 1.23 points per match
Those 3 worse teams have changed their manager too since he's been here. Can hardly complain when you view it in that context.
As have Forest (twice), Everton and Brentford (not by choice). We should have higher expectations than all of them too.
Should have gone after Grimsby, what a turd of a coach.
Wilcox and Berrada next please, probably Vivell too
Wilcox and Berrada next please, probably Vivell too
Last seasons stats are totally flawed as the season was over when ruben took over. Stats are telling nothing if read without context. We were clearly on a way up and i cant see how it helps to disrupt this process in the middle of the season. It was only a poor reaction to the interview what is a shame as a professional structure should deal with a bit of critisism
The 'I'm a manager not a head coach' thing was so absurd on it's face that I'm not surprised they finally said enoughHe had a public meltdown because his supervisor gave him feedback
Ornstein said we would look for someone permanent in the summer. Huge risk this. We are only what 4 points clear of 14th place? Can easily see Fletch completely tanking it if given the full season
Thanks goodness that is over.
The big question: will Fletcher be wearing a suit on Wednesday or will he be a tracksuit manager?
It’s an interim manager because we need someone in charge while we find a replacement. I don’t see why anyone is reading anything more into that with the Fletcher thing.
I can see Rashford coming back - not followed too closely how he is getting on at Barca but if they don't want to pay for him, he'll be back
Don't get the Mainoo negativity above - the system didn't suit him and hopefully he'll thrive again
We seem to have an abundance of players if all positions simply by changing the formation - who knew ?
Surprised how many anti the sacking comments there are on Sky, but of course we dont know what club these people support
Almost feels like he walked/was mutual agreement to part ways
Almost feels like he walked/was mutual agreement to part ways
Would be funny if they both got the chop
My mate was raving about the Motherwell manager the other day there. Let’s go get him! We’ve tired every other type of manager.
May as well throw caution to the wind and go for a complete unknown.
May as well throw caution to the wind and go for a complete unknown.
Iraola vs glasner, I would take pochetino as well at this point. Tuchel won’t leave England job before World Cup. Not impressed with xavi at all, he won in a 2 team league with poor performing Madrid, played lvg football for me.
Mad that. Conspiracy that we’re replacing the club from top to bottom with multiple generations of Fletchers as they’re all “yes man”
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Kiss goodbye to any European football next year, Fletcher in charge until the summer ?, I hope we get fecking relegated.
To all the entitled numpties on here ( which are many ) lets see how you deal with your miserable lives plummeting to new depths.
To all the entitled numpties on here ( which are many ) lets see how you deal with your miserable lives plummeting to new depths.
Because owners have never publicly backed managers and then gone on to sack them before...
I hope Fletcher is just for the 1 game on Wednesday. Feck sakes I'd be livid if they leave him there for the rest of the season.
The only thing I ask is that please - if an interim does OK - do not just offer them the permanent gig willy nilly. Please do actual due diligence this time around
Not sorry at all to see him go. Wasn’t the one in my view and never will have been.
INEOS getting it right now is a separate concern. As far as Amorim is concerned though, good riddance.
INEOS getting it right now is a separate concern. As far as Amorim is concerned though, good riddance.
Vivell should stay. The others can feck off
Can't wait for Rashy and Sancho to come back at the end of the season and stink up the place under a new manager next season.
Weren't we about the same distance from top 4 when Amorim took over?
That's the spirit.
Just like Amorims record.
The Arsenal and Liverpool fans in my family chat aren't pleased at all right now
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