I was just thinking him maybe being a member of the Amorim family would explain things.
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I was just thinking him maybe being a member of the Amorim family would explain things.
He couldn't put him up front for hoofball
It's a nothing story. Same thing happened when Ten Hag was sacked and he was forgotten the next day.
Classy from Obi
So if we have a player missing it doesn’t count?. Do you apply that to the opposition as well?.
We’ve conceded goals all season, Amorim hasn’t even picked Maguire by choice in games when he was fit so if the key is Maguire then that’s not helping Amorim’s cause or supporting your point.
Wonderful. Ratcliffe chiming in about formations as well?! What a bunch of rats we have running the club. Leaking private conversations to the media putting more pressure on the manager and then coming out with stuff like "surprised about the last 48 hours. Don't know where that came from"? I wonder where we will end up this season.
You sounded like you wanted him sacked a week ago after the Wolves game.
And now he has been sacked and you're seemingly hugely upset. Doesn't make much sense.
Look, I'm not saying missing a player has derailed our season. I said that it has affected it. You know, we're not far behind 4th, and having some of the best players in the team can be the difference between some points, notably against Bournemouth where we most definitely would have won if we had our best centre backs available. Did you see the goals we concede in that game? That's 2 extra points, putting us at 5th ahead of Chelsea and 1 point behind Liverpool. It's the small things like these that can add up and make a big difference over the course of the season.
And for sure, missing Bruno against Leeds and Wolverhampton obviously makes a difference, as he is the one true creator and progressor in the team. I don't know why I need to explain why missing some of your best players can make a difference. The argument that "we didn't win x or z game with them" is completely irrelevant, as each game is a different game of football. The final and only point is that missing the best players in your team will affect the performances, whether it's missing CBs that end up conceding more goals or missing attackers that end up scoring fewer goals.
It's just performative. There is a set of fans who will pretend to not see what everyone is seeing just because they want to feel different. In fact I will tell you how they exposed themselves a long time ago, the initial argument for this kind of nonsense was that 'United isn't a sacking club" and "We are no better than the the likes of Real Madrid or Chelsea if we sack managers.".
For the people that don't get it. No United isn't better than other clubs, the club isn't morally superior because it had the luck of landing Sir Matt Busby and Sir Alex Ferguson. The club was fortunate to land exceptional managers twice in 40 years and that's about it, which is why United has historcally been unsuccessful for large period of times without these two men while being owned by the same family.
I did want him sacked, I'm just not going to pretend he had everything laid up for him to succeed and that a CL spot was guaranteed with another manager. All I'm saying is that injuries has played a role in our results, not that it "derailed" our season.
Yeah completely agree.
It's easy to boast about not being a sacking club when you've got Fergie as manager.
Seen this on FB, and its spot on.
Some of you are happy to swap this guy for a possible combination of Fletcher and Carrick, you are out of your minds.
Dear Ruben,
I’m writing this not as a pundit who acts like he knows it all, not as a billionaire owner with the alleged know-how of running an elite football club, but simply as a Manchester United supporter who feels he owes you an apology.
When you arrived, you were handed a club that is broken in ways that no press conference can fully explain. We spoke about patience, about process, about rebuilding and yet, the moment results dipped, many of us reverted to old habits. We blamed the manager again, as if changing the man on the touchline could magically fix years of structural decay.
You inherited an unbalanced squad, inflated egos, confused recruitment and a culture that has forgotten what accountability really means. Still, you tried to impose ideas, standards, and discipline- things this club desperately needs. Instead of backing you through the discomfort that real change demands, the club chose the familiar shortcut. And many of us, loudly or silently, allowed it.
For that, I’m sorry.
Sorry that we demanded instant success in a club that hasn’t earned the right to expect it. Sorry that your work was judged more harshly than the people who built this mess and continue to hide behind press releases and PR statements. Sorry that once again, a manager paid the price while deeper problems remain untouched.
Whether history remembers your time here kindly or not, many of us will remember that you tried to bring clarity and honesty to a chaotic institution. That matters.
Thank you for your effort, your professionalism, and your dignity in impossible circumstances.
Some of you are happy to swap this guy for a possible combination of Fletcher and Carrick, you are out of your minds.
Dear Ruben,
I’m writing this not as a pundit who acts like he knows it all, not as a billionaire owner with the alleged know-how of running an elite football club, but simply as a Manchester United supporter who feels he owes you an apology.
When you arrived, you were handed a club that is broken in ways that no press conference can fully explain. We spoke about patience, about process, about rebuilding and yet, the moment results dipped, many of us reverted to old habits. We blamed the manager again, as if changing the man on the touchline could magically fix years of structural decay.
You inherited an unbalanced squad, inflated egos, confused recruitment and a culture that has forgotten what accountability really means. Still, you tried to impose ideas, standards, and discipline- things this club desperately needs. Instead of backing you through the discomfort that real change demands, the club chose the familiar shortcut. And many of us, loudly or silently, allowed it.
For that, I’m sorry.
Sorry that we demanded instant success in a club that hasn’t earned the right to expect it. Sorry that your work was judged more harshly than the people who built this mess and continue to hide behind press releases and PR statements. Sorry that once again, a manager paid the price while deeper problems remain untouched.
Whether history remembers your time here kindly or not, many of us will remember that you tried to bring clarity and honesty to a chaotic institution. That matters.
Thank you for your effort, your professionalism, and your dignity in impossible circumstances.
"Sorry we demanded instant success"
Wanting more than one win a month is clearly an unreasonable demand to make of a Utd manager.
Agree with this. It's also tiring seeing the same nonsense being spouted with every failed manager we go through
and the award for the most nauseating post of 2026 goes to...
Something you'd laugh about if you saw it on RAWK
Shared in Newport xx
Calling something RAWKish gets done too often on here but you're right, that open letter is pure unadultered RAWK style embarrassing
I'm more than confident the players won't down tools for the next coach, something of which hasn't been the case for sometime now.
I’ve liked him but honestly, he lost me during that grimbsy shootout when he was hiding in the dug out like an absolute coward. That is not becoming of a Man Utd manager.
I think the only time I can remember where it was completely clear the players had downed tools was for Rangnick. They clearly hated him.
Quoting Facebook posts now are we
It hasn't been a thing at United at least not in the last 13 years. All managers had their tenures lengthened by wins and acceptable performances while their position was questioned. Generally speaking athletes downing tools is rare what is most likely to happen is senior players ignoring coaches and trying to fix things themselves.
Yep, that's it. Unfortunately the players have now been branded as unprofessional, backstabbing individuals, which is so clearly BS for the majority of the squad.
While I am not an Amorim fan and don't think he was ever good enough for being Manchester United manager I will have 100% preferred him staying if the alternative is going back to some uninspired and dated football ideas as served by Ole.
It is insane how bad our club is run. We paid millions to ten Hag to get rid of him, then another few millions for Dan Ashworth and now Amorim. But at least we saved a few bucks getting rid of some cheap employees.
Speaking about a 3 yrs project and giving this guy the boot after 1 year because he insisted on playing to his own ideas (for which he was specifically brought in) because the management suddenly realized the right players would cost a fortune is laughably awful.
It is insane how bad our club is run. We paid millions to ten Hag to get rid of him, then another few millions for Dan Ashworth and now Amorim. But at least we saved a few bucks getting rid of some cheap employees.
Speaking about a 3 yrs project and giving this guy the boot after 1 year because he insisted on playing to his own ideas (for which he was specifically brought in) because the management suddenly realized the right players would cost a fortune is laughably awful.
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Amorim is a fecking idiot. A complete waste of everyone time.
Amorim is a fecking idiot. A complete waste of everyone time.
He knew he was going nowhere and wasn't up to it so he blew everything up and cashed in. Nice £10m in his bank account for dragging us to unseen depths in modern history, worst manager we've had in decades.
Amorim is gone now but Wilcox and Berrada should be under fire for hiring what's essentially a novice manager from Portugal with very little experience and essentially giving him the keys to the club before he had shown any promise.
They eventually realized what a mistake it was and tried to correct course but the sheer incompetence is worrying. Dan Ashworth was the line dissenting voice and they kicked him out. 14 months of rubbish, £30m out of the coffers for nothing.I bet Ruben Amorim can't believe how well this has worked out for him. INEOS now need to show a shred of competence and higher someone who doesn't come in and manage to do worse than the previous manager who was already failing badly. The next few days will be interesting.
Amorim is gone now but Wilcox and Berrada should be under fire for hiring what's essentially a novice manager from Portugal with very little experience and essentially giving him the keys to the club before he had shown any promise.
They eventually realized what a mistake it was and tried to correct course but the sheer incompetence is worrying. Dan Ashworth was the line dissenting voice and they kicked him out. 14 months of rubbish, £30m out of the coffers for nothing.I bet Ruben Amorim can't believe how well this has worked out for him. INEOS now need to show a shred of competence and higher someone who doesn't come in and manage to do worse than the previous manager who was already failing badly. The next few days will be interesting.
The decision to put random WORDS in capitals is quite ANNOYING.
Also worth bearing in mind this is a one sided version of events. History is written by the WINNER and all that.
Why?
We rushed into a permanent appointment when we hired Amorim. We ended up hiring a guy that wasn't ready and left him entering this season already on thin ice, because we forced him into taking over while we were at our lowest ebb in decades. Things might have been a lot different if we'd simply waited until the summer to bring him in.
We hire an interim and we either have some continuity into next season because they've done well enough to earn the permanent job, or we bring in someone that goes into next season without any baggage from this campaign.
Another problem with just going straight for a permanent hire now is the limited pool available. There are many candidates that, like Amorim, will be reluctant to leave their existing post mid-season. There are others that are currently planning for the World Cup and won't come at all. Those that are available and/or willing to come right now are largely not going to be the types to be very high on any shortlist.
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You said AFCON and injuries have completely fecked the season, and it hasn’t. We couldn’t beat a struggling Forest team, or a Spurs team that is really bad at home, or 10 man Everton, or bottom 3 West Ham or a Bournemouth team on a terrible run. We gave up 11 points there, and that was before the season was supposedly fecked.
Things were not going well as you are claiming, we have 5 points from 4 games since AFCON you could argue we might have more, the same or less without AFCON and injuries.
But we’ve been watching a team struggling to beat anyone in the league for a while now.
Yeah there's a lot of briefing going on to polish reputations and determine the narrative. Those articles and post mortems need a good dose of salt
What a load of bollocks.
Christ there is a lot of revisionism going on here. No one demanded instant success. No one expected much at all and after nearly getting us relegated last season very little improved beyond the arrival of a few better players who made our attack more deadly.
He got sacked precisely because he wasn't adding value or heading in the right direction. When people talk about giving managers time, they talk about giving managers time when they are improving but not at the required level yet. Not when they are lurching from one bad patch to the next with the occasional game that goes well.
Amorim was given huge amounts of understanding and backing from the fans. You still need to deliver something to keep your job. It would be like handing a failing business to a new CEO and then keeping him when he has done almost nothing to arrest the slide of the company. They won't expect you to take them from being on the verge of bankruptcy to top of the FTSE 500 but they will expect you to show that you are changing the fortunes of the company for the better.
Managers are supposed to add value to their players. Has he done that? Is he doing that? Is he showing strong signs that good things are coming?
I always look at Arteta in these situations. He took a few years to get Arsenal firing but you could always see that they were progressing. If they stopped progressing and were sitting around top 4 or dipping in and out of it after 3 years he would have been sacked. You earn time.
You don't get 3 years in a job without showing you deserver it. You earn time and Amorim hadn't earned it at all. We would have been here in a years time after spending another £200m talking about why we hadn't sacked him a year earlier after he had shown no signs of being "the guy". We would have had a squad expensively built to play a style of football that very few managers play and lamenting the fact that managers we want would want to tear up this squad again.
It was the right time for him to go. I like the guy. I feel for him as well. It was a very very very hard job and the club made the stupid decision of bringing in a manager that needed a huge amount of the squad binning before he could cook but despite this, he didn't perform. We weren't talking about how another few players would have us competing for something next year, we were still talking about whether we would finish in the bottom half of the table. That unacceptable with this squad.
He got sacked precisely because he wasn't adding value or heading in the right direction. When people talk about giving managers time, they talk about giving managers time when they are improving but not at the required level yet. Not when they are lurching from one bad patch to the next with the occasional game that goes well.
Amorim was given huge amounts of understanding and backing from the fans. You still need to deliver something to keep your job. It would be like handing a failing business to a new CEO and then keeping him when he has done almost nothing to arrest the slide of the company. They won't expect you to take them from being on the verge of bankruptcy to top of the FTSE 500 but they will expect you to show that you are changing the fortunes of the company for the better.
Managers are supposed to add value to their players. Has he done that? Is he doing that? Is he showing strong signs that good things are coming?
I always look at Arteta in these situations. He took a few years to get Arsenal firing but you could always see that they were progressing. If they stopped progressing and were sitting around top 4 or dipping in and out of it after 3 years he would have been sacked. You earn time.
You don't get 3 years in a job without showing you deserver it. You earn time and Amorim hadn't earned it at all. We would have been here in a years time after spending another £200m talking about why we hadn't sacked him a year earlier after he had shown no signs of being "the guy". We would have had a squad expensively built to play a style of football that very few managers play and lamenting the fact that managers we want would want to tear up this squad again.
It was the right time for him to go. I like the guy. I feel for him as well. It was a very very very hard job and the club made the stupid decision of bringing in a manager that needed a huge amount of the squad binning before he could cook but despite this, he didn't perform. We weren't talking about how another few players would have us competing for something next year, we were still talking about whether we would finish in the bottom half of the table. That unacceptable with this squad.
You have to see the irony in your ignoring of expected points, because it tells a different story to the league finish, followed by quoting expected points, which also tells a different story to the league finish.
Both measurements are useful tools to demonstrate trends, but neither hold a candle to the actual league finish. And 6th is better than 8th.
Serious question, can we get a poll now that he's been sacked? @Raoul
Yeah, you cannot doubt the effort of this group of players, it might not have always worked, but they gave it their best.
Thank feck we got Lammens and not Martinez.
Also, we did try for Semenyo, no? Amorim reportedly spoke to him at length - it’s unrealistic to think we’re going to land every highly contested target. Especially when there were huge question marks about formation even from Semenyo’s camp
People act like he was doing it for free. He made some good money for shite results. How many people can say this?
The guy made it so unnecessarily difficult for himself. Just another bizarre manager coaching our players.
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