I like him, if FDJ comes that's it then and Eriksen on a free? Along with Mctom, Fred, Bruno Garner maybe that's probably it in CM. So it's a maybe .
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Thanks mate. I would love to eat a humble pie but I do think he isn't that great. Ofcourse I don't watch all of the Wolves games . He would be a better fit for us than someone like Tielemans .
Lets put this way - I wouldn't be too disappointed with Neves if we don't get FDJ. We can certainly do better but we also have limitations.
My concern with Neves is how slow and immobile he is, we would need a worker in midfield still and we don't have one that could do that.
Fred. Give him a partner who actually knows what to do with the ball in midfield, and we might look better.
Fred playing with an actual skilful and unpredictable footballer in there with him will get even better. He’s been our best midfielder for years now.
Think Neves could easily play the Carrick role we been missing since Carrick retired. Carrick was not the quickest but he always help us set the tempo to our play . Something which i feel Neves would be great at doing to . Also he a danger from Set Pieces
Pace is overrated.
I feel Vitinha was a younger sharper Neves but would still take Neves as one of two central midfielders this summer.
Painfully average.
Like….. Matic.
The general consensus is a 25 year old Matic would've been ideal to have so there's that.
Don't like him. Moves like a turtle and isn't good enough on the ball to make up for it.
I’ve seen a few comparisons with Carrick in this thread and I can understand why but, without going into quality, Carrick was more of a natural 6 whereas Neves is more of an 8 (or a double pivot guy) even if their style is somewhat similar.
I don’t think Neves would do too well dropped into our current midfield. Our problem has been getting the right balance and we don’t have any midfield combinations that provide reliable balance. We do need a player with Neves’ skillset but we also need a player with Rice’s skillset. It doesn’t have to be Neves and Rice, but I would be very happy with those two in CM.
Probably De Jong is better than Neves but there’s not a lot in it and FDJ would also not shine with any of our current CM options. But, hey, trust in ETH.
I don’t think Neves would do too well dropped into our current midfield. Our problem has been getting the right balance and we don’t have any midfield combinations that provide reliable balance. We do need a player with Neves’ skillset but we also need a player with Rice’s skillset. It doesn’t have to be Neves and Rice, but I would be very happy with those two in CM.
Probably De Jong is better than Neves but there’s not a lot in it and FDJ would also not shine with any of our current CM options. But, hey, trust in ETH.
Genuinely don't understand this. He did excellently in a fast paced championship and then again when stepping up to the premier league. Mind explaining what makes up take this opinion? Are you going of particular stats or something? Honestly curious to know.
He is not slow, he just appears slow because he prefers to read the game rather than just running around. He seems to be more of a central midfielder which would make sense if FDJ is not bought.
No reason we couldn’t play Neves next to De Jong.
We won the league and CL with a midfield 2 o Carrick and Scholes.
We won the league and CL with a midfield 2 o Carrick and Scholes.
I would love him here. We already have a world class Portuguese seven. Having a Portuguese Neves would be oddly poetic.
Bruno - Rice - De Jong
Adding with super fast, skill ful and sharp wingers in Raphinha, Rashford and Sancho
Raphinha - Bruno - Rice - Jong - Sancho/Rashford + Ronaldo/Rashford
This 6 combination above are good enough for top 4 and might with a strong squad depth. Good enough for premier league title.
Rice as the balance and to shield the defend. Adding with the attack and creative skills of Raphinha, Bruno, De Jong, Sancho and Rashford = sum of this is a really strong attacking collective and team.
Adding with super fast, skill ful and sharp wingers in Raphinha, Rashford and Sancho
Raphinha - Bruno - Rice - Jong - Sancho/Rashford + Ronaldo/Rashford
This 6 combination above are good enough for top 4 and might with a strong squad depth. Good enough for premier league title.
Rice as the balance and to shield the defend. Adding with the attack and creative skills of Raphinha, Bruno, De Jong, Sancho and Rashford = sum of this is a really strong attacking collective and team.
That combo would probably cost 230 million euros.
Neves and de Jong would be like another world to Fred and McTominay. Add in Eriksen and suddenly you have 3 very competent users of the ball to retain possession and control- though im pretty hopeful Ten Hag will bring Fred's game up a level. De jong is key, Neves would be a huge bonus
Ruben Neves actually wants to come. And he's attainable. Yet the club are arrogantly thinking they are too big for that and would prefer to chase Marquee pipe-dream
signings every summer that have a 50/50 chance of happening that alone won't do anything. Maybe one day the club will realise that the whole transfer strategy needs to change. And 1. only sign and chase players who want to come to the club first and foremost and 2. are actually attainable from clubs.
Ruben Neves isn't a De-Jong but he has the potential to become an absolute superstar.. a player on the verge of taking that next step. And is actually Premier League Proven unlike De-Jong and is the sort of tenacious midfielder we need.
I think De-Jong is more of a riskier signing and has more potential to flop.
signings every summer that have a 50/50 chance of happening that alone won't do anything. Maybe one day the club will realise that the whole transfer strategy needs to change. And 1. only sign and chase players who want to come to the club first and foremost and 2. are actually attainable from clubs.
Ruben Neves isn't a De-Jong but he has the potential to become an absolute superstar.. a player on the verge of taking that next step. And is actually Premier League Proven unlike De-Jong and is the sort of tenacious midfielder we need.
I think De-Jong is more of a riskier signing and has more potential to flop.
Both Neves and Tielemans are waiting on moves but aren’t top of the list for the bigger clubs it seems.
You have to wonder why. Though to be fair, I could never understand why Eriksen wasn't snapped up by a top team for a few years before Tottenham bought him. Some players just seem to have a strange aura around them that stops bigger teams giving them a go. Eriksen went to Spurs for a pittance.
Unless I totally missed something neither of them are top players, guaranteed starters for top clubs. Both are gambles that could work but with glaring issues. Neves for example is a midfielder that can't really carry the ball, isn't particularly good defensively and routinely fails to have an impact when it comes to managing the game from midfield, looking at his stats that impression could be explained by his extremely low amount of short passes. He is only reliable when it comes to set pieces.
The issue with the way he plays is that when all is said and done, he doesn't impact the game defensively, he doesn't create chances at a high rate, isn't a pilar of your midfield in ball recycling phases. He seems to have all the tools neeeded to be an impactful player but he isn't, maybe a top level coach can unlock it but it's likely that it won't happen, so which club is going to pay a potentially high fee? The same applies to Tielemans, he has the tools but he doesn't have the game and he hasn't improved much.
Tottenham were on the up and playing at a high level, they also didn't need to sell players for reasonable fees and mainly didn't. People are talking about Tottenham as if they were a penniless midtable team.
Because neither are that good. They'd be squad players for better clubs.
I feel that the need for a CDM to ping long balls around the pitch is overrated in possession football.
It’s much more about constant repositioning as a player and then holding possession around the team.
Neves’s repositioning ability or to carry the ball is not good enough in my opinion and it’s only his long passing that’s of value.
I’d be surprised if he was a Ten Hag player that is on his list.
It’s much more about constant repositioning as a player and then holding possession around the team.
Neves’s repositioning ability or to carry the ball is not good enough in my opinion and it’s only his long passing that’s of value.
I’d be surprised if he was a Ten Hag player that is on his list.
I live in Wolverhampton, most of my associates are season ticket holders at the Mollinuex - I watch Neves regularly.
I can absolutely see why he’s second or third choice. Superb passer of the ball, but about as immobile as Matić with worse defensive ability. Fans would get extremely frustrated with him.
I think having him as a back up option to add some passing ability to our midfield is a sensible choice. As of right now, De Jong looks certain, so Neves wouldn’t be needed.
I can absolutely see why he’s second or third choice. Superb passer of the ball, but about as immobile as Matić with worse defensive ability. Fans would get extremely frustrated with him.
I think having him as a back up option to add some passing ability to our midfield is a sensible choice. As of right now, De Jong looks certain, so Neves wouldn’t be needed.
But that's dependent on price, unless we have money to burn that kind of specialist isn't needed. In order to be useful he would have to improve in several areas.
Don't understand this "doesn't add anything defensively". Neves is in and around the top 10 for most tackles and interceptions in the league every season for his postion.
Slow as Matic is an exaggeration too.
Slow as Matic is an exaggeration too.
We should at least see what the contract situation is if FdJ falls through.
Jeez.... had it in mind it was £30M. Oh well who else is there....Why? 85mil they want
For some reason, there seems to be a lot of people who don’t rate him highly, which amazes me. I think he’s brilliant.
slow, gets walked past easily, needs another midfielder with him, will cost 65m
The averageness is strong with this one.
In what world would he cost 30m? English clubs are way too rich, it seems that 50m is the starting price for any player above a 6/10 these days.
85m euros for this clown?
Clown is a bit harsh surely? He’s a good CM probably not far from his current level that’s all.85m euros for this clown?
All midfielders need another one with them, preferably two. Pep plays about six in there. But I’m wasting my time.
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