Rugby 2020 discussion

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Game.

That original break came from another Welsh kick which was nowhere near high enough and allows catching player plenty of time.

England have made their kicks much more of a contest throughout. Doing basics better and taking opportunities

And yet again, Wales will speed things up (which makes them a better team) too late.

 

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Interesting rucking there by Wales, I didn't know you could Suplex clear out

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Penalty advantages time after time are useless

 

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Penalty advantages time after time are useless

Yup England have really racked them up with no warning from the ref.

 

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Bit comical here, they've just said on the telly here that England have more penalties than in all their other games combined.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Yup England have really racked them up with no warning from the ref.

He's a shit official, whether reffing or TMO.

I love rugby, it's a tough sport but there are rules for a reason and he's way too lenient today.

 

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Finally a yellow about five mins too late.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

After all the "high tackles" today, consistency should follow. Arms??

 

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He's a shit official, whether reffing or TMO.

I love rugby, it's a tough sport but there are rules for a reason and he's way too lenient today.

TMO has a fair share today too. Marler should have got something.

 

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Yeesh, that was fairly reckless.

 

[T00lsh3d]

A fecking red?????

 

[T00lsh3d]

feck of daft cnut go play the game

 

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A fecking red?????

It was worth two reds

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

TMO has a fair share today too. Marler should have got something.

Ahuh.

To be honest, if he red cards that (and he should), they should have looked at the Curry tackle on Biggar in first minute. Doesnt get Biggars head but no arms either. (Not a red but not a tackle either)

I don't want games reffed by video but TMOs need to shout up sometimes.

Good game overall, best team won (or will do).

 

[T00lsh3d]

It was worth two reds

no flies on you mate

 

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Not sure why I'm getting worked up over injustices for Wales, I dislike both of these team

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

A fecking red?????

Red Card

• Shoulder charge (no arms tackle) direct to the head or neck of the ball carrier.

A few years ago, maybe a yellow. Under latest rules (and all the concussion stories in sport over the last ten years has (rightly) brought them in), it's a red. Nice to see no malice... typical of rugby players

 

[paulscholes18]

Red Card

• Shoulder charge (no arms tackle) direct to the head or neck of the ball carrier.

A few years ago, maybe a yellow. Under latest rules (and all the concussion stories in sport over the last ten years has (rightly) brought them in), it's a red. Nice to see no malice... typical of rugby players

But surly the players body position should come into play? Had he been upright the shoulder would have been no where near his head

 

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But surly the players body position should come into play? Had he been upright the shoulder would have been no where near his head

Looked to me like he was launching himself into a ruck...

 

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Feckin hell. A yellow a bit earlier could have made a big difference there.

 

[Bubz27]

Feckin hell. A yellow a bit earlier could have made a big difference there.

Yeah, if only Wales could've played v 13 all game.

 

[T00lsh3d]

Red Card

• Shoulder charge (no arms tackle) direct to the head or neck of the ball carrier.

A few years ago, maybe a yellow. Under latest rules (and all the concussion stories in sport over the last ten years has (rightly) brought them in), it's a red. Nice to see no malice... typical of rugby players

Yep, I know the letter of the law. My issue is that he’s running at full pace and the ball-carrier is upright,. As the ball-carrier is tackled he drops, and when Tuilagi’s tackle hits his head his head in about 2/3 ft off the floor. Tuilagi’s not aimed for his head, there’s no way he can readjust in that time....the guys on the way down. Do him for not wrapping, fair enough. But if the player’s on the way down and his head is at waist height at the time of contact, it’s stupid to do the tackler for contact with the head.
I’d say this regardless of the colour of the shirt btw

 

[T00lsh3d]

Bloody Caf autocorrect changing Tuilagi’s first name to Man Utd

 

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Bloody Caf autocorrect changing Tuilagi’s first name to Man Utd

It's happened to us all at some stage

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

But surly the players body position should come into play? Had he been upright the shoulder would have been no where near his head

No.

Yep, I know the letter of the law. My issue is that he’s running at full pace and the ball-carrier is upright,. As the ball-carrier is tackled he drops, and when Tuilagi’s tackle hits his head his head in about 2/3 ft off the floor. Tuilagi’s not aimed for his head, there’s no way he can readjust in that time....the guys on the way down. Do him for not wrapping, fair enough. But if the player’s on the way down and his head is at waist height at the time of contact, it’s stupid to do the tackler for contact with the head.
I’d say this regardless of the colour of the shirt btw

I get you. When I played, I'd have got a pat on the back for tacking like that but the red card rules last year gave refs clearer direction on when a red is appropriate. I agree about the head dip but responsibility is on the tackler... same as in football with dangerous tackles. I don't think the arms/wrapping is the issue, it's the control (or lack of it) and safeguarding players.

• High tackle with any contact between the tackler’s shoulder or head and the Ball Carrier’s head or neck, with high degree of danger.
• High tackle with first contact from the tackler’s arm, direct to the BC’s head or neck, with high degree of danger.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Bloody Caf autocorrect changing Tuilagi’s first name to Man Utd

I noticed that too. Bloody technology?!

 

[The Cat]

No complaints with the result but that was a red.

 

[T00lsh3d]

Cheering on the Scots. What a bizarre and dirty feeling

 

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Fabulous stuff.

 

[BusbyMalone]

Correct call. Definite red card.

 

[T00lsh3d]

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Yellow all day long

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

The "good old days" of letting them sort it out or get away with 40/60 tackles have gone. The new rules gives refs checklists to follow tightly and there's no ambiguity now.... good.

Just hope they don't go OTT and take away too much of the physical nature of the game.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

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Yellow all day long

imo.... I'd yellow him. It's the rules that allow refs less ambiguity?

You could clearly hear them going through the checklist... "force?" tick, "head?" tick.

If they lose this/a slam, I wouldn't like to be that lad when he next meets Shaun Edwards stare.

 

[BusbyMalone]

Go on Scotland. France have been nowhere near as good as their results have implied.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

I'd love to stay in and watch France self destruct but unfortunately some idiot scheduled the City game while there was a 6 Nations game on. Idiot!

 

[T00lsh3d]

imo.... I'd yellow him. It's the rules that allow refs less ambiguity?

You could clearly hear them going through the checklist... "force?" tick, "head?" tick.

If they lose this/a slam, I wouldn't like to be that lad when he next meets Shaun Edwards stare.

I’ve just caught myself saying to my son, “10 years ago that’d have been a yellow”. I’m right though, it would have been. Shit punch as well

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Scotland playing well but I think the red is the only way they'd win this (and I'm not convinced they will yet).

France have always had flair, physicality, technique but were missing structure/organised defence which Shaun Edwards has (unfortunately) brought to the table. What he can't do is stop "forwards being forwards" .

Sacre bleu.

 

[RedDevilRoshi]

Good 1st half performance. Leading the game at HT with a man advantage (God knows what was running through that French number 3’s head). Just hope to God for once we don’t f*** this up. The game is there for us to win it now.

 

[utdalltheway]

This 6 nations being blown wide open now. Still a ways to go though.

 

[dbs235]

This 6 nations being blown wide open now. Still a ways to go though.

Is it fair to say England are favourites now?