Russian invasion of Ukraine

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The BBC reports:

"McDonald's has said it'll exit the Russian market and has started a process to sell its business in the country after 30 years of operating its restaurants there.

In March, the fast-food chain said it was temporarily closing around 850 restaurants in Russia in response to the country's invasion of Ukraine.

"The humanitarian crisis caused by the war in Ukraine, and the precipitating unpredictable operating environment, have led McDonald's to conclude that continued ownership of the business in Russia is no longer tenable, nor is it consistent with McDonald's values," the company said in a statement.

As part of McDonald's decision to leave, the company is "pursuing the sale of its entire portfolio of McDonald's restaurants" in Russia to a local buyer, it said.

McDonald's restaurants in Ukraine remain closed while the company continues to pay full salaries for its employees in the country."
 

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From the BBC:

"Renault pulls out of Russia

French carmaker Renault says it is selling its majority stake in the Russian carmaker Avtovaz, in an agreement that will cost it some €2.2bn (£1.8bn).

Renault is the latest foreign company to leave following Moscow's invasion of Ukraine.

Its holding of nearly 70% in Avtovaz is to be sold to the Russian Central Research and Development Automobile and Engine Institute, called Nami. The deal includes a six-year option to buy back the stake.

And its 100% shares in Renault Russia will go to the city of Moscow, the company said.

Moscow has said the company's Russian assets have now become state property.

"Today, we have taken a difficult but necessary decision, and we are making a responsible choice towards our 45,000 employees in Russia," said Chief Executive Luca de Meo.

In March, the car manufacturer said it was suspending work at its Moscow factory."
 

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"The humanitarian crisis caused by the war in Ukraine, and the precipitating unpredictable operating environment, have led McDonald's to conclude that continued ownership of the business in Russia is no longer tenable
That makes sense.

nor is it consistent with McDonald's values," the company said in a statement.
feck off :lol:
 

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Sweden/Finland's opposition to Turkey and their support for Kurds.

In truth, it is more about cause the West has broken relations with Turkey and Turkey feels mistreated by them (from the EU stopping Turkey's path to EU, in fact, not even allowing Turkish citizens to visit EU without a visa, to EU's and especially France's unconditional support to Greece on Greence/Turkey's cold conflict). Now that these countries seem to need Turkey's help, Turkey wants them to make concessions towards Turkey, otherwise they will veto.
Ah right, good explanation, thanks.
 

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The BBC reports:

"McDonald's has said it'll exit the Russian market and has started a process to sell its business in the country after 30 years of operating its restaurants there.

In March, the fast-food chain said it was temporarily closing around 850 restaurants in Russia in response to the country's invasion of Ukraine.

"The humanitarian crisis caused by the war in Ukraine, and the precipitating unpredictable operating environment, have led McDonald's to conclude that continued ownership of the business in Russia is no longer tenable, nor is it consistent with McDonald's values," the company said in a statement.

As part of McDonald's decision to leave, the company is "pursuing the sale of its entire portfolio of McDonald's restaurants" in Russia to a local buyer, it said.

McDonald's restaurants in Ukraine remain closed while the company continues to pay full salaries for its employees in the country."
Good news for the Russians. I thought we’re meant to be making things worse for them?
 

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The Russian Ministry of Defence says that an agreement has been reached regarding the evacuation of wounded Ukrainian soldiers from the besieged Azovstal plant in Mariupol to the Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine.

Source: Interfax, citing the Russian Ministry of Defence

Quote from the Russian Ministry of Defence: "On 16 May, an agreement has been reached regarding the evacuation of the wounded [soldiers] as a result of negotiations with the Ukrainian military personnel blocked at the Azovstal steel works in Mariupol."

Details: According to the Russian Ministry of Defence, a ceasefire at Azovstal has already begun and a humanitarian corridor has been opened to transport wounded Ukrainian soldiers to a hospital in Russian-occupied Novoazovsk, a town located in the Temporarily Occupied Territories of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/16/7346563/

Coming from both sides, apparently.

 

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Ukraines song was absolute dogshit. Great for them to win it on a pity vote because they got blown up by Russia. It’s basically a Make-A-Wish victory. Your song’s shit but we feel sorry for you. :lol: Actually feel bad for the UK for actually having the best song for once and it comes in a year when a little country got invaded by Russia.
 

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More good news in the Kharkiv region if they’ve already crossed the river. Russia was moving forces north from Izium to consolidate a defensive front supposedly which could have been problematic. It’s shown in the upper-right here.

 

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Swiftly qualified tweet

Just had a look at Katchanovski’s publications and I would be very interested to see the money trail. He has a seemingly very strong interest in challenging the prevailing narrative about Ukraine going back to Maidan in 2014. All from the other side of the Atlantic in Ottawa.
 

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Can’t we just throw out Turkey and let in Sweden and Finland then? Seems like a good trade, and if I remember correctly NATO does have humans rights and democracy requirements, which Turkey could be violating.
 

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Just had a look at Katchanovski’s publications and I would be very interested to see the money trail. He has a seemingly very strong interest in challenging the prevailing narrative about Ukraine going back to Maidan in 2014. All from the other side of the Atlantic in Ottawa.
He's fairly anti-War and anti-Putin. Also verified war crimes in Bucha, and other places, as part of his most recent research. He's not a Kremlin stooge.
 

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He's fairly anti-War and anti-Putin. Also verified war crimes in Bucha, and other places, as part of his most recent research. He's not a Kremlin stooge.
Ok, I‘ll take your word for it.

Can I ask an open question given you are a prodigious poster on this topic - what do you see as a viable solution?
 

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Just had a look at Katchanovski’s publications and I would be very interested to see the money trail. He has a seemingly very strong interest in challenging the prevailing narrative about Ukraine going back to Maidan in 2014. All from the other side of the Atlantic in Ottawa.
I cannot stand the guy, says some very strange things and if its not intentional, he is at the least very susceptible to Russian propaganda.
 

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Ok, I‘ll take your word for it.

Can I ask an open question given you are a prodigious poster on this topic - what do you see as a viable solution?
Gave one in the other thread, I have no idea. Beyond reparations, neutrality, security agreements, and the usual stuff, which is already being discussed and suggested, there's nothing I can add. Russia will have to withdraw back to its initial position and Ukraine will likely have to acknowledge the independence of, or loss of, Crimea, Luhansk, and Donetsk. Not the entirety of the last two, but those parts which were under control before the war.
 

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Luhansk and Donetsk are more likely to be crushed by the Ukrainian army on the attack than stay as they were just before the war. Crimea is a more complicated case, but it's too early to call anything there as well.