Russia’s economy must be about to take quite a hit.
A lot will go through Turkey I’d think. Or Finland.
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Finland will restrict right of entry from Russia in the coming days, including a full stop on tourist visas.Russia’s economy must be about to take quite a hit.
A lot will go through Turkey I’d think. Or Finland.
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Good news.Finland will restrict right of entry from Russia in the coming days, including a full stop on tourist visas.
https://yle.fi/news/3-12637102
So it will then be non EU countries with strong air connections to Germany. Dubai, etc and Turkey. Difficult to know whether this is the right decision or not.
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Not sure they would have the visa for onward travel to Germany so yeah nice idea but needs some logistics and thought behind itRussia’s economy must be about to take quite a hit.
A lot will go through Turkey I’d think. Or Finland.
Nope.Is there any flights from Russia to Germany?
Otherwise how are they supposed to get there
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They can try to stop the influx, but I have a feeling that the situation at that border will be as chaotic as your imagination of the US-Mexico border, especially with the length of the land border itself.Finland will restrict right of entry from Russia in the coming days, including a full stop on tourist visas.
https://yle.fi/news/3-12637102
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The other reason Putin may be ready to just throw this ragtag bunch of drunk and disaffected into battle is to try and derail the counter offensive.
If these guys just mutiny / surrender en masse the Ukrainians may have 500,000 POW's suddenly appear on their doorstep.
Maybe the UN could setup some camps and deal with them, freeing up the Ukrainians to fight on.
If these guys just mutiny / surrender en masse the Ukrainians may have 500,000 POW's suddenly appear on their doorstep.
Maybe the UN could setup some camps and deal with them, freeing up the Ukrainians to fight on.
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Yeah that's not it.The other reason Putin may be ready to just throw this ragtag bunch of drunk and disaffected into battle is to try and derail the counter offensive.
If these guys just mutiny / surrender en masse the Ukrainians may have 500,000 POW's suddenly appear on their doorstep.
Maybe the UN could setup some camps and deal with them, freeing up the Ukrainians to fight on.
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TIL: despite Finland being seen as the victors of their war against the Soviet Union in 1939, they actually signed over 9% of their territory in the peace deal.
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Wasn’t this conversation specifically about Germany providing visas (or at least allowing entry) specifically to Russians?Not sure they would have the visa for onward travel to Germany so yeah nice idea but needs some logistics and thought behind it
It’s odd that you went for a patronising reply rather than engaging. None of us know how easy or difficult it will be in practice, but let’s leave off with the attitude. We all want the same thing.
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Nah.They can try to stop the influx, but I have a feeling that the situation at that border will be as chaotic as your imagination of the US-Mexico border, especially with the length of the land border itself.
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How will they provide visas... as I say nice idea but logistics issues kind of matter because I don't think people can queue up for a visa in Moscow without being rounded up and sent to the front lineWasn’t this conversation specifically about Germany providing visas (or at least allowing entry) specifically to Russians?
It’s odd that you went for a patronising reply rather than engaging. None of us know how easy or difficult it will be in practice, but let’s leave off with the attitude. We all want the same thing.
Processesing centres in Finland/ Turkey... not sure how practical it us
I agree that providing a route out is a good idea but that kind of involves an actual route ... which I'm sure without being patronising you can coherently explain to me
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If Germany really is intent on providing visas or some other kind of permit to travel, then I’d guess it would be through German embassies potentially worldwide, but in reality mostly in countries close to Russia. During the revolutions of 1989 a huge amount of East Germans made it to the West not through the direct east/west Germany border, but by ‘holidaying’ in Czechoslovakia and Hungary, getting visas there, and travelling overland via Austria. If it happens in this case then I think it will be the same principle, just different interim countries. So I’m sure it’s feasible logistically, the big question for me is whether Germany really is willing to facilitate this in large numbers. For me, that’s the potential problem rather than logistics. I’ll believe that Germany is serious when I actually see it happening rather than when the idea is first mooted.How will they provide visas... as I say nice idea but logistics issues kind of matter because I don't think people can queue up for a visa in Moscow without being rounded up and sent to the front line
Processesing centres in Finland/ Turkey... not sure how practical it us
I agree that providing a route out is a good idea but that kind of involves an actual route ... which I'm sure without being patronising you can coherently explain to me
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This is just disgusting. That sinister latent threat to life is how Putin operates. I hope Russia gets absolutely pulverised.Tweet
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Just proves who are the Nazis in this conflict.
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I believe there are more Russians in Israel than there are people originating from any other country. I’m sure there are other reasons too.Everyone in the west should follow, also Israel looks pathetic in all this.
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What have Israel done?Everyone in the west should follow, also Israel looks pathetic in all this.
The Last i heard was that they had begun supplying weapons to Ukraine in response to Russia feeding the Iranian weapons industry.
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Only just happened, no support before that.What have Israel done?
The Last i heard was that they had begun supplying weapons to Ukraine in response to Russia feeding the Iranian weapons industry.
What have Israel done?
The Last i heard was that they had begun supplying weapons to Ukraine in response to Russia feeding the Iranian weapons industry.
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Better late than never? The EU nations were slow to act themselves and Germany initially supplied batches of helmets…Only just happened, no support before that.
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Probably more just deserting.Wouldn’t the vast majority now just surrender? Im not exactly seeing many stories of Russians fighting to the last man in impossible circumstances during this war
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I think the counter UAV systems from Israel where just rumors, nothing has been confirmed by either Israel or Ukraine.What have Israel done?
The Last i heard was that they had begun supplying weapons to Ukraine in response to Russia feeding the Iranian weapons industry.